ive heard talk that ones body can only absorb 40 grams of protein per hour. I was wondering if this is indeed true, and if it is, a source would be greatly appreciated.
THAT's who it was. Thank you.bound, for some reason I think it was Lou Ferrigno that said that.
What you need to do babe is go to wherever you heard "talk" about this and ask them to cite a source, not the other way aroundive heard talk that ones body can only absorb 40 grams of protein per hour. I was wondering if this is indeed true, and if it is, a source would be greatly appreciated.
i would love to do that, but i heard this info here a few months ago, and the subject recently came up. i tried a search and came up with nothing so i posted this hoping somebody who knew of this would chime in.What you need to do babe is go to wherever you heard "talk" about this and ask them to cite a source, not the other way around
You must hate low carb/ high fat high protein diets like the Anabolic Diet and its variants.I don't know about a specific amount that can be absorbed per hour. There are established limits to the amount of protein that can be absorbed by the gut on a daily basis however. I apologize for not having that information on hand but I will try to locate it.
The majority of weightlifters/bb'ers take in far more protein than they need or can use. Obviously every individual is unique so there is no magic number per say... However the established diatetic recommendations for strength training are 1.2-2.0 g pro/Kg. Somewhere down the line of information someone confused this recommendation and substituted of for lb's. This is incorrect and results in severe overkill.
I feel people mistakenly place an overstated emphasis on protein while ignoring the macronutrient that really plays a larger role in successful strength/size training: carbohydrates.
Eating too much protein probably won't kill you but there are dangers associated with long and even short term overconsumption. A few examples are diuresis (increased urine volume), potential dehydration, inadequate CHO intake, and possibly hypercalciuria (excessive urinary calcium excretion).
More than anything else, taking in amounts far above recommended levels is a waste of money at best.
Please excuse any grammatical errors, this post was penned from my iPhone.
I don't know about a specific amount that can be absorbed per hour. There are established limits to the amount of protein that can be absorbed by the gut on a daily basis however. I apologize for not having that information on hand but I will try to locate it.
The majority of weightlifters/bb'ers take in far more protein than they need or can use. Obviously every individual is unique so there is no magic number per say... However the established diatetic recommendations for strength training are 1.2-2.0 g pro/Kg. Somewhere down the line of information someone confused this recommendation and substituted of for lb's. This is incorrect and results in severe overkill.
I feel people mistakenly place an overstated emphasis on protein while ignoring the macronutrient that really plays a larger role in successful strength/size training: carbohydrates.
Eating too much protein probably won't kill you but there are dangers associated with long and even short term overconsumption. A few examples are diuresis (increased urine volume), potential dehydration, inadequate CHO intake, and possibly hypercalciuria (excessive urinary calcium excretion).
More than anything else, taking in amounts far above recommended levels is a waste of money at best.
Please excuse any grammatical errors, this post was penned from my iPhone.
I would have to agree that at a certain point your body is not digesting all the protein one ingests. Obviously several factors are to be taken in to account. At what point you are waisting money (protein is expensive!) I don't know. I came across this article a couple weeks ago by Ron Kosloff. Apparently he's kinda Vince's protege[sp?].
I can't link it as the site is a competitor but google:
vince gironda bodybuilding
and it's the third article down. He starts talking about supplemental ways to increase the amount of protein someone can ingest in one meal. I should read again myself.
Recall that for hundreds of years "doctors" suggested not bathing because the smell and dirt was a protective coating to keep demons away so you wouldn't get sick. Just because people (even important people, people in power or people who would seem to have the most knowledge) doesn't mean its necessarily true.I don't think Poliquin and others would be so dumb as to suggest more protein if it were just calories doing it.
Never mind this guy. Hes just trolling.I don't know about a specific amount that can be absorbed per hour. There are established limits to the amount of protein that can be absorbed by the gut on a daily basis however. I apologize for not having that information on hand but I will try to locate it.
The majority of weightlifters/bb'ers take in far more protein than they need or can use. Obviously every individual is unique so there is no magic number per say... However the established diatetic recommendations for strength training are 1.2-2.0 g pro/Kg. Somewhere down the line of information someone confused this recommendation and substituted of for lb's. This is incorrect and results in severe overkill.
I feel people mistakenly place an overstated emphasis on protein while ignoring the macronutrient that really plays a larger role in successful strength/size training: carbohydrates.
Eating too much protein probably won't kill you but there are dangers associated with long and even short term overconsumption. A few examples are diuresis (increased urine volume), potential dehydration, inadequate CHO intake, and possibly hypercalciuria (excessive urinary calcium excretion).
More than anything else, taking in amounts far above recommended levels is a waste of money at best.
Please excuse any grammatical errors, this post was penned from my iPhone.
Getting around 2 is wise when trying to put on mass but the fact is very few people can actually do that everyday. I weigh 250 so taking in even 500 is tough as ****.People with vast experience noticed that when gaining muscle 2-2.25g/POUND works. Period. They're not noticing negative health impact, either.
Trolling? How did you come to that conclusion? Was it because I haven't made it back to post a response to the 4 or 5 posts made since mine? If so, my apologies if you felt neglected. I have a brutal schedule working 40+ hours a week and trying to keep up with 16 hours of advanced nutrition and food science courses.Never mind this guy. Hes just trolling.
The problem with these theories that "bodybuilders" like to cite so often, is that there is not a shred of evidence based empirical research being performed here. Protein consumption for exercise and muscle building is something that has been studied for years, with many works published in peer reviewed medical and nutrition journals.
Can you gain muscle taking in 2 or more grams of protein per lb of bodyweight? Sure, that much is evident. Is it necessary? All evidence points to it being overkill and likey no more than an expensive case of gastrointestinal upset.
Like I said in my previous post, I don't mind if you disagree with me. Everyone is entitled to thier own opinion. Unfortunately Neil appears incapable of mature adult conversation so unless he proves otherwise, I'll continue to ignore his silly posts which generally leave much to be desired in terms of useful or insightful content.
I'm not sure what University you attend but it would be a shame if their nutrition department were sub par. It might say a lot about the other departments there, including the education you're receiving. There are many wonderful, cutting edge research oriented programs out there. As I have mentioned previously, I am lucky to attend such a University. I won't waste much time defending Rodja's vastly overstated assumption other than to say this. Every peice of literature we utilize is from the most current resources available. Much of the time, it is based on emperical, evidenced based research done on campus by one of the leading researchers in the nutrition research field. In our studies, we are not permitted to use any source older than 4 years from date of first publication.
Again, you can gain muscle at 2 g/lb of body weight. Science has shown it is absolutely unnecessary to take in this much. The same results can be found at 1.2-2.0 g/kg of body weight. If you have success with they way you've formulated your diet, more power to you.
I'm just amazed at the intensity with which some of you guys defend your idols opinions which are often based on little more than "we ate this much protein and got this big" type evidence. I'm sorry, but I'll take research backed, peer reivewed information every time over the opinion of a "guru".
I'd be interested to hear Bobo's take on this....
Wow, you couldn't be further off base. Am I an ESS major, yes, but I can guarantee you that my supplement, nutrition, and training knowledge are ahead of yours. I can recall you asking me several questions about supplements, Birdsall.you attend which university? It makes sense that you would make such a sweeping generalization about a program based on such little actual knowledge about it. If I had to guess, I'd bet you are a member of a fraternity and an exercise sports science major. Am I right? It would make perfect, halarious sense.
You probably still think glutamine is an effective muscle building supplement. Continue buying into the mythical theories of your bodybuilding gods. I'll continue making just as much physical progress as you with they key difference being that I'm not wasting food, time or money feeding myself with irrelevant calories
Ps. Post count is not a substitute for intelligence.
Glutamine is the shizzle my birdsizzleYou probably still think glutamine is an effective muscle building supplement.
I don't pretend to be something that I am not. Have I ****ed up in my life, yes, I do not hide from this fact, but I highly doubt that you do not have some skeletons on your closet.Rodja,
Lets not jump the gun here. Stick to what you know. You're schooled in training. Don't make rediculous assumptions like you having superior nutrition knowledge than me. That couldn't be farther from the truth. I take extreme offense when someone insults my education. I can assure you we have a top notch nutrition program at our school. I'm not sure who you "questioned", but you need to consider the source here. Were they adjunct or tenured? Does their education and teaching background have anything to do with sports nutrition? Probably not. Our school is one of the top Dietic undergraduate programs in the Southwest. No need to argue with me on this one, take it up with the agencies that do their ratings. Your major is based almost entirely on methods that having been proven scientifically based on results from studies on human performance and weightlifting in an experimental environment. Spare me the BS on not caring what science says.
I agree wholeheartedly that every individual is unique. The training and exercise that works best for you, may not lead to any improvements for me or anyone else. What science has established is recommendations that are appropriate for the majority of the population. Whether that population is the elderly or competitive weightlifters, nutrition guidelines have been formed by evidence, not assumptions and eyeball measurements.
After realizing who you are, I take back most of what I said in my PM. I really have very little respect for you, especially the things that have gone on in your personal life. You may think you are some hero on these boards, a far cry from reality..
So you hold the studies to be true based off of your sample size? What was your total caloric intake during your so-called "experiment." Also, you have no idea what my diet is, so making assumptions about how I personally eat is ignorant.I absolutely understand their is huge difference between dietetics and sports nutrition. I qouted an article take directly from nsca website. Is this an outdated source? I'd be surprised if you werent a member of that organization. I have no pedestal to come down from. Ive trained at close to to 2 g/lb of bw and also at 2 g/kg per on of bw. Maybe you should try the same. I'm open to any new possibility which is exactly why I tried training with high pro intake. When I did not find a difference in muscle stregnth, endurance, or size when compared to previous intake I concluded all the studies I've read likely hold true.
And it tastes yummy with salt and pepper.I like protein, it builds stuff.
Oh yeah, tough guy said "yummy"!!And it tastes yummy with salt and pepper.
That's how I roll...Oh yeah, tough guy said "yummy"!!
Again, you can gain muscle at 2 g/lb of body weight. Science has shown it is absolutely unnecessary to take in this much. The same results can be found at 1.2-2.0 g/kg of body weight. If you have success with they way you've formulated your diet, more power to you.
I'm just amazed at the intensity with which some of you guys defend your idols opinions which are often based on little more than "we ate this much protein and got this big" type evidence. I'm sorry, but I'll take research backed, peer reivewed information every time over the opinion of a "guru".
I'd be interested to hear Bobo's take on this....
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