Did Anabolic Pump Work for you

Did Anabolic Pump Work for you????

  • Yes, I could tell from day 1

    Votes: 127 23.9%

  • No

    Votes: 207 38.9%

  • Yes, but it took a little while

    Votes: 145 27.3%

  • No, but looking back i didnt research enough to get the most out of it

    Votes: 53 10.0%
  • Total voters
    532
TenthCav said:
I have been on it several months and continue to take it, usually with lunch, which tends to be the highest carb meal of the day (I dont count green veg). I started with 3 a day, carb meals or not. I am a meso-endo(i.e.:Moobs, Abs n' Handles). The higher carb eating with AP had one result: more flab:rant: , and I reduced the carbs in panic, presently with a standard low-carb schedule(meat/veg/shakes primarily with occasional outbursts of rice & noodles when I cant take it anymore)...I am trying to gain/preserve muscle & reduce flab, so this was a revolting development to say the least, particularly in light of the ad campaign on this product.(Yea' I said it:afro: ). USP will be happy to know I will continue to buy and take AP until I decide to eliminate it, in the gullible hope it might eventually kick in, so enjoy my $$$:rasp: (I could give a flip about the $, I just want it to flippin' work:frustrate ). As with Brother imprezivr6, I've never had any noticeable reaction whatsoever. I just started using ResetAD to fight my AF, so if it actually works, maybe AP will kick in and I will turn into a responder. We will see, but so far after working through over 4 bottles, nada, zip, zilch, negatori, no mas, nictht' :sad: ; and thats the truth, so just deal with it instead of getting all hostile, defensive, or diet judgemental (which is the pattern so far)...:yawn: ...
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Mmm, I am pretty sure, for me personally at least, I have never acted in any of those manners you listed. If the product doesn't work, it doesn't work.
 
Use it with all our athletes. We consider it an integral part of our stacks. Of course our guys take everything we tell them to, but feedback has been great and numbers are up across the board.
 
I used powerfull and supercissus and they worked very nice so I decided to take some AP and...nothing .I thought that maybe is a litle weak for me and decided to upgrade , p-slin was the way to go but ...nothing (i once even forgot that I had take one and then didnt eat nothing for hours, if the product worked I shoul had felted).
USP have good products but I dont think ap and p-slin are one of them...
 
I'm no Poster Boy...

travbedaman said:
I bet supplement companies wish they had more customers who even after admiting the product has had absolutely no positive effect whatsoever, will continue to buy bottle after bottle.
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:confused: I didnt say that, Bro', I said "I will continue to buy and take AP until I decide to eliminate it"...huge difference. I may cease after the current bottle is done, I may not, depends on what else I am doing/taking and diet/training. I did, after all, sarcastically mention gullibility, or didnt you pick up on that;) ....
 
Realism vs. criticism...

USPLabs said:
It's not about being "Diet Judgemental" but since the supplement revolves around diet that is the first natural question to ask for us to efficiently address the issue.

take care
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I'm being open here, not being a jerkwad just for the hell of it. My diet is not a crappy one (no junk foods) so going by the AP FAQ "should" have had at least minimal effect vs. someone eating "fast and loose", which some have claimed to do and still get results. All the same, if it is required to eat nasty yams, cottage cheese, etc this should be qualified and expressed to the consumer as a solid "must", rather than dangling the carrot of "turning pasta into roid's" (Particularly in front of my carb-deprived face. Hell, I'd kill for a bowl of pasta these days:rant: , but fear of flab puts it on the "no go" list, even, as mentioned, while taking AP). I understand the reality though, the drug companies do the same slight-of-hand to avoid lawsuits, hence the kitchen sink labels listing the "It's your fault it didnt work" side effects. Telling potential customers they must stick to a fanatical ultra strict and timed food/eating schedule is nowhere as seductive as implying you can have linguini and clams and still lose blubber/build muscle, which would indeed be the Holy Grail. I openly admitted to health variables (adrenal fatigue for example) being a possible factor in non-response, so I am far from throwing all the "blame" on USP, and in fact stated that I am keeping an open mind on the subject, above and beyond most consumers, to the point of paying my hard earned ca$h to back up my statements....
 
If you are willing, would you discuss your diet from the beginning, and when you 'panicked' and lowered your carbohydrates. As Jacob mentioned, with a product centering around diet, this question is a necessity.

As it pertains to your comment of it must be qualified as a solid must, we are not Big Brother. I can express to our customers that optimal results will be found with quality carbohydrates sources, however, and the important fact, that extends beyond optimal use of our product; if you have to be told not to eat linguini with Alfredo sauce, then your dietary issues extend beyond that of not 'complying' with AP. Now, none of this was directed exclusively at you, merely an attempt at explaining why our directions are as such. Interestingly enough, I am writing a manual for Anabolic Pump which contains specific acceptable carbohydrate sources.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
As it pertains to your comment of it must be qualified as a solid must, we are not Big Brother. I can express to our customers that optimal results will be found with quality carbohydrates sources, however, and the important fact, that extends beyond optimal use of our product; if you have to be told not to eat linguini with Alfredo sauce, then your dietary issues extend beyond that of not 'complying' with AP.
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!!!!!!BINGO!!!!!!

Nasty yams and cottege cheese,lol. Ohh man. Ronnie was right when he said "Everyone wants to be a bodybuilder but no one wants to lift no heavy ass weights" (from memory may not be exact). But he should have added "Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder but no one wants to eat them heathy ass foods"

But too add to that. I notioced that when eating crap foods like liguini with alfredo sauce I saw much less repercution (sp?) from "cheat" meals than without AP.
 
AP & P-SLIN don't work for me ,they are full of "eat that, dont eat that" ,they are just like fatburners. A good fatburner should work even if I don't change my diet, if it is unable to do that is a completely lost of time because, if I eat less I will lose wheight so why do I need the fatburner??????
Now these restrictions aply to AP and P-SLIN too ;eat that carb but dont eat the other, c`mon, thats insane!
well, maybe it works for some people but sure doesn't suit me...


P.S. and to compare them with real roids, as in the advertising, its absurd
 
nunes said:
AP & P-SLIN don't work for me ,they are full of "eat that, dont eat that" ,they are just like fatburners. A good fatburner should work even if I don't change my diet, if it is unable to do that is a completely lost of time because, if I eat less I will lose wheight so why do I need the fatburner??????
Now these restrictions aply to AP and P-SLIN too ;eat that carb but dont eat the other, c`mon, thats insane!
well, maybe it works for some people but sure doesn't suit me...


P.S. and to compare them with real roids, as in the advertising, its absurd
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You are correct they're not on the same level as roids but make what you can get out of your diet pretty damn good IMHO. I set a PR for incline bench (365lbs @ 180lbs) eating only 150carbs/day. I had been on AP for about a month as of this time and it was amazeing that my weights had not dropped but gone up in some cases during my cut (about 6-7weeks total).

P.S.To think you can eat whatever you want and allow supps to make progress for you......LMAO now THATS ABSURD!!!!!
 
Lanbane said:
I was a dump responder. Sad to have missed out on the benefits, while pooing.
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LMAO... I thought I was the only one. Works for me for 4 or 5 days then I get the sh*ts. It works though. I'm trying to figure some wacky dosing scheme so I can keep taking it maybe 3 on 3 off or something like that.

BTW my carbs almost always come from oats or ezikiel bread.
 
IroNwIlL2006 said:
LMAO... I thought I was the only one. Works for me for 4 or 5 days then I get the sh*ts. It works though. I'm trying to figure some wacky dosing scheme so I can keep taking it maybe 3 on 3 off or something like that.
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really? It was good for about 5 days and then dump city? Hrm that is whacky.

Did you change anything like coffee or caffeine intake after the 5days?
 
nunes said:
AP & P-SLIN don't work for me ,they are full of "eat that, dont eat that" ,they are just like fatburners. A good fatburner should work even if I don't change my diet, if it is unable to do that is a completely lost of time because, if I eat less I will lose wheight so why do I need the fatburner??????
Now these restrictions aply to AP and P-SLIN too ;eat that carb but dont eat the other, c`mon, thats insane!
well, maybe it works for some people but sure doesn't suit me...


P.S. and to compare them with real roids, as in the advertising, its absurd
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Is it insane to reccomend complex carbohydrates over simple carbohydrates. Are we asking to much? Your diet in theory should be filled with complex carbohydrates.

AP is really a simple supplement if the nutrition basics are understood.
 
I'm on day 9 of Yellow Gold and I've been logging my meals. So far I've taken 3 doses of ~530mg before large complex-carb meals (I.e. 80g+). It's too early for me to say yet if it has worked, but feel free to drop by my log and give me some suggestions/advice. I'm always looking for input.

If anybody has any experience with the speed at which you eat your carb meal (15mins after taking AP/YG) let me know. I don't know if I have to scarf down the complex carbs or if I can eat at my leasurely pace over say 30 minutes.
 
Steveoph said:
I'm on day 9 of Yellow Gold and I've been logging my meals. So far I've taken 3 doses of ~530mg before large complex-carb meals (I.e. 80g+). It's too early for me to say yet if it has worked, but feel free to drop by my log and give me some suggestions/advice. I'm always looking for input.

If anybody has any experience with the speed at which you eat your carb meal (15mins after taking AP/YG) let me know. I don't know if I have to scarf down the complex carbs or if I can eat at my leasurely pace over say 30 minutes.
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eat normally and I would increaes dose to 800mgs or 1g of YG.
 
Distilled Water said:
You are correct they're not on the same level as roids but make what you can get out of your diet pretty damn good IMHO. I set a PR for incline bench (365lbs @ 180lbs) eating only 150carbs/day. I had been on AP for about a month as of this time and it was amazeing that my weights had not dropped but gone up in some cases during my cut (about 6-7weeks total).

P.S.To think you can eat whatever you want and allow supps to make progress for you......LMAO now THATS ABSURD!!!!!
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nobody is telling "eat whatever you want ",I supose we are all bodybuilders (I have 7%bodyfat) not big fat man .What I meant to say is ,if we have a normal bb diet that kind of products should work by themselfs not impose restrictions that are obvious.By the way I`m Portuguese and I have a mediterranean diet with a lot of complex carbs and even so the product didn`t worked so he have to admit that the product don`t work for everyone(see the chart) ,maybe it works with you but respect who have diferent opinions.
 
nunes said:
nobody is telling "eat whatever you want ",I supose we are all bodybuilders (I have 7%bodyfat) not big fat man .What I meant to say is ,if we have a normal bb diet that kind of products should work by themselfs not impose restrictions that are obvious.By the way I`m Portuguese and I have a mediterranean diet with a lot of complex carbs and even so the product didn`t worked so he have to admit that the product don`t work for everyone(see the chart) ,maybe it works with you but respect who have diferent opinions.
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I can accept that. From your other post I was under the impression to think other wise about your diet and other factors. Now that you have explained yourself to support your opinion I can respect it and see we both have different opinions as I used Anabolic Pump and had GREAT results and you nothing.
 
USPLabs said:
Actually we do not compare it but give the audience an alternative.
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Pleeeeeease ,be real ,an alternative to creatine ,test boosters ,no boosters, maybe but to real roids thats pure hype marketing ,but ok is good marketing .
what is said in the advertising is:
"Is it possible to turn ordinary chicken & pasta into STEROIDS"
It doesn`t seems to me like an alternative but more like a sugestive comparasion and lets get real it`s incomparable.
 
nunes said:
nobody is telling "eat whatever you want ",I supose we are all bodybuilders (I have 7%bodyfat) not big fat man .What I meant to say is ,if we have a normal bb diet that kind of products should work by themselfs not impose restrictions that are obvious.By the way I`m Portuguese and I have a mediterranean diet with a lot of complex carbs and even so the product didn`t worked so he have to admit that the product don`t work for everyone(see the chart) ,maybe it works with you but respect who have diferent opinions.
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That's the issue you are misinterpreting here. It is not a 'you cannot eat this, or must eat that', it is much more akin to 'our product works best when combined with an optimal diet'. However, and what you are not alliterating, is that so does every product. Even steroids, as you mentioned, work best in conjunction with proper training and an adequate diet. Our product does not work in a deterministic relationship with carbohydrates, however, it is undeniable that they work most optimally with complex carbohydrates. If somebody says 'I began stuffing my face with 500g of Carbs the first day on AP, and I got fat. It doesn't work!', that is simply ridiculous. Telling them to mediate the carbohydrate intake on a more gradual scale to work in conjunction with our product, is not.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
That's the issue you are misinterpreting here. It is not a 'you cannot eat this, or must eat that', it is much more akin to 'our product works best when combined with an optimal diet'. However, and what you are not alliterating, is that so does every product. Even steroids, as you mentioned, work best in conjunction with proper training and an adequate diet. Our product does not work in a deterministic relationship with carbohydrates, however, it is undeniable that they work most optimally with complex carbohydrates. If somebody says 'I began stuffing my face with 500g of Carbs the first day on AP, and I got fat. It doesn't work!', that is simply ridiculous. Telling them to mediate the carbohydrate intake on a more gradual scale to work in conjunction with our product, is not.
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ok,ok but as i told before I was the perfect guy to experiment AP ,mediterranean diet with a lot of pasta ,potatoes ,rice and very good proteins in the moisture , I train hard and have 7%bodyfat, 5,7 and 180 lbs and it still doesn`t work.
The product dont work with everyone and for me an excelent product is a product that works without restrictions to everyone(remember I`m talking of bodybuilders), that kind of restrictions alow companies to hide behind them.
As I said can be good for some people but for me and a lot of other people it`s a (and I`m sorry to tell you this) ZERO
 
nunes said:
As I said can be good for some people but for me and a lot of other people it`s a (and I`m sorry to tell you this) ZERO
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AP is our Number one repeat seller (meaning the consumer purchases again after the first purchase) above PowerFULL and Cissus.

You are absolutely correct in your evaluation. The product did not work for you. At 7% bodyfat, you are probably already insulin sensitive with great genetics. You are one of the lucky ones.

take care
 
nunes said:
ok,ok but as i told before I was the perfect guy to experiment AP ,mediterranean diet with a lot of pasta ,potatoes ,rice and very good proteins in the moisture , I train hard and have 7%bodyfat, 5,7 and 180 lbs and it still doesn`t work.
The product dont work with everyone and for me an excelent product is a product that works without restrictions to everyone(remember I`m talking of bodybuilders), that kind of restrictions alow companies to hide behind them.
As I said can be good for some people but for me and a lot of other people it`s a (and I`m sorry to tell you this) ZERO
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Well, capitalizing 'ZERO' doesn't make me feel any worse if that was the intent you were going for. ;)

Our product, or any product, for that matter, not working for every individual is not a revelation, it's supplement fact. Supplement producers merely attempt to cater to the widest possible demographic and understand that there will invariably be a contingent of 'non-responders', so to speak. You are taking your very subjective and anecdotal experiences and extrapolating them upon more general lines, and in so doing conjuring 'restrictions' upon the product. These 'restrictions' are only as tangible as one makes them; I can inform a consumer that the carbohydrate sources mentioned herein are the most optimal for AP, but I would never say that 'x' carb will not 'work' with the product. The product mediates glucose utilization mechanisms universal to all carbohydrate sources. I.e., if you are predisposed to respond, you will respond with any carb source, though some, obviously, and once again extending beyond the implications of our exclusive discussion here, are more optimal for performance than others.

I am sorry you did not respond to Anabolic Pump, as it is a wonderful product when it works. However, your hostility is misdirected in claiming universal and unwavering restrictions to its use. Take a product like X-Factor, for example. This product restricts diet to a degree further than ours. Some other products cannot be consumed with food, others must be consumed with food. If you were not to respond to these, assuredly you would not claim they were to dietary 'restrictions' but to a personal non-response.
 
ok boys I like your company but I thought I could put some extra musle with AP and P-SLIN and it didn`t hapened and like me there are others, and some people like blue and others red , that`s life and we have to accept.
Hope you launch another great products in the future and I`ll be here to say wonderfull things about them (like cissus and powerfull) ,regarding AP and p-slin unfortunately in my point of view I can`t say the same.
Good luck!
 
nunes said:
ok boys I like your company but I thought I could put some extra musle with AP and P-SLIN and it didn`t hapened and like me there are others, and some people like blue and others red , that`s life and we have to accept.
Hope you lunch another great products in the future and I`ll be here to say wonderfull things about them (like cissus and powerfull) ,regarding AP and p-slin unfortunately in my point of view I can`t say the same.
Good luck!
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Thanks Nunes. We have some big things in the work we hope you can be apart of!
 
Distilled Water said:
Did Anabolic Pump give you results?

I've been seeing some haters on this and it kinda makes me mad because I love Anabolic Pump, 3 bottles since Jan.

If it didnt work for you, could you post your diet?

*When buying any product wouldnt you want tor esearch it to see how to make it work the best, ecspecially when your shelling out $50????
Ex.)
-Anabolic Pump and complex/low G.I. carbs
-Anabolic Pump and Amount of cabrs
-Other food choices when not taking AP w/ that meal
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If a supplement only works when a special diet and training regimen is used then a pamphlet should come with the product. Why should the consumer have to become a scientist and search bodybuilding message boards to use supplements?

I research products , but come on already !
 
ZIMM said:
If a supplement only works when a special diet and training regimen is used then a pamphlet should come with the product. Why should the consumer have to become a scientist and search bodybuilding message boards to use supplements?

I research products , but come on already !
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No it shouldn't. Your diet should already be tailored around Anabolic Pump. Other than a few exceptions (no/lowcarbers, and genetic freaks) I dont know a single person who is serious about this type of lifestyle and doesn't alreay eat low glycemic carbs around their workout time and in the morning.Thus....wait for it.......wait for it........ A supplement doesn't replace a bad diet

So what your implying is you should be able to eat whatever you want and AP should take you from :donut: to :bb3:
 
Mulletsoldier's Manual

I am writing a manual for Anabolic Pump which contains specific acceptable carbohydrate sources.
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Put me first in line for that manual when it's ready...Into 2nd week of ResetAD, and still taking my AP at least twice a day (and to clarify, the only reason I mentioned the pasta was in reference to the AP ad copy about "turning pasta into steroids", not that I'm wolfing down pasta by the bowlful. The vast majority of my carbs are from green veg, primarily ausparagus, brocholi, spinach, etc...These along with chicken/fish and some beef, plus shakes & bars form the base of my recomp eating choices, plus various non-stim supps such as BCAA's, ZMA, glutamine, etc. I cut out any post-workout insulin boost protien drinks, since I believe these will only promote fat gain for someone in my situation. I'm presently sitting at approx. 20%+ BF, most as waist-wrap and "Moobs")...:rolleyes:
 
ZIMM said:
If a supplement only works when a special diet and training regimen is used then a pamphlet should come with the product. Why should the consumer have to become a scientist and search bodybuilding message boards to use supplements?

I research products , but come on already !
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:think:
Nothing really special about increasing carbohydrate intake and training is not our responsibility.

A consumer should learn Diet and exercise before purchasing a supplement.
 
Absolutely AP worked wonders for me. Got some on the way as we speak. This stuff is awesome because you can basically "cheat" and totally get away with it :D

Not that I would do, or ever have done that...


PS: Don't recommend either..
 
bLacKjAck. said:
Absolutely AP worked wonders for me. Got some on the way as we speak. This stuff is awesome because you can basically "cheat" and totally get away with it :D

Not that I would do, or ever have done that...


PS: Don't recommend either..
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You can absolutely cheat and get away with it if you understand nutrition and timing:thumbsup:
 
USPLabs said:
:think:
Nothing really special about increasing carbohydrate intake and training is not our responsibility.

A consumer should learn Diet and exercise before purchasing a supplement.
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indeed. It should be a consumers responsibility to be aware of his training. Would you like jacob to come to your house to make sure that you have good form as well? come on now... seriously...

I read the direction labeled on AP and P-Slin

I don't see how they can be any more crystal clear. Take P-Slin with 60-100g of complex carbs for maximum benefits...

Consumers should be aware of their training thats what personal trainers are for.
 
i know im gettin on this thread kindo late but I saw all the hate and had to speak my piece. Ap and pslin are awesome products! They have both become staple supplements for me. I have recently taken over management of a supplement store(not a GNC) and I will be recomending these products to all who will listen. I have had a great experience with everything Ive tried from USP (bulk powerfull and symmetry as well). Much props to those guys
 
Didn't work for me.. took it with breakfast which was around 150-200g carbs. Then preworkout which was somewhere over 50g carbs if you add carbs from the milk. Also with post workout which again somewhere over 75g.
 
Lol. I took it 15 minutes before my high carb meals. 15 min before breakfast, 15 min before pre-workout carbs and 15 min before post-workout carbs
 
wrasslin116 said:
Lol. I took it 15 minutes before my high carb meals. 15 min before breakfast, 15 min before pre-workout carbs and 15 min before post-workout carbs
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I wonder if the aerobic and anaerobic impact of wrestling had anything to do with it? I know that aerobic activity really helps to increase insulin sensitivity. Also, perhaps your GLUT-4 receptors haven't fully matured as well.
 
I wonder....

How many people that it "didn't work for" are carb types and/or very lean and insulin sensitive?

And how many people that it worked for were chubbier, and do better on low carb diets?

Would be interesting to see if there is any correlation.
 
USPLabs said:
... At 7% bodyfat, you are probably already insulin sensitive with great genetics. You are one of the lucky ones.
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This statement above is really the heart of the matter. Supplements of this type can be hit or miss depending on the body type. Some kind of disclaimer on the bottle saying what type would benefit most/least would save some customers time and money. (and less neg. reviews for the supp. company) :whiner:
 
I have to ask, for those of you that say you put on belly fat, did you also increase the amount of carbs you were eating anyway.

or did you keep the same amount of carbs, add the AP, and gain belly fat?

I'm guessing it was the first one.
 
It's usually the first one, from my experience at least.

Jacob and I have the AP Manual ready, and we'll be releasing it in PDF form on Monday. Nothing crazy scientific, just a nice, simple reference guide to better help people use Anabolic Pump.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
It's usually the first one, from my experience at least.

Jacob and I have the AP Manual ready, and we'll be releasing it in PDF form on Monday. Nothing crazy scientific, just a nice, simple reference guide to better help people use Anabolic Pump.
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Thats what I thought. I'm guessing that if you already have a high carb intake, and you add in AP it can only help, or if you are a non-responder..do nothing. But it should not increase fat anymore than usual.
 
Yeah, everybody has different reactions to carbs.

If you are carb insensitive, meaning that CHOs do nothing for you either way, neither fat gain or muscle gain you need to sensitize your myocytes to a large degree than most. I think this can be done by waiting 30-45 minutes after AP dosing to eat your carbs, and increasing your simple carbohydrate intake around AP. This should both allow AP to translocate GLUT4 and induce the Insulin spike necessary to drive the glycogen in. If you are 'skinny-lean' this increase in simple carbs shouldn't effect fat gain anyway, and should be pretty beneficial.

In the manual, we go over the 4 most noticeable (to us, pretty subjective, I know) carb types and suggesting tailored dosing and diet.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Yeah, everybody has different reactions to carbs.

If you are carb insensitive, meaning that CHOs do nothing for you either way, neither fat gain or muscle gain you need to sensitize your myocytes to a large degree than most. I think this can be done by waiting 30-45 minutes after AP dosing to eat your carbs, and increasing your simple carbohydrate intake around AP. This should both allow AP to translocate GLUT4 and induce the Insulin spike necessary to drive the glycogen in. If you are 'skinny-lean' this increase in simple carbs shouldn't effect fat gain anyway, and should be pretty beneficial.

In the manual, we go over the 4 most noticeable (to us, pretty subjective, I know) carb types and suggesting tailored dosing and diet.
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This sounds like a really great idea.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
It's usually the first one, from my experience at least.

Jacob and I have the AP Manual ready, and we'll be releasing it in PDF form on Monday. Nothing crazy scientific, just a nice, simple reference guide to better help people use Anabolic Pump.
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bump, wtf? I've pmed two of you, no responses.
 
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