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Best non steroid products?

kitchenstud

kitchenstud

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I tried Jungle Warfare and liked it, but since the new version is a roid, I don't want to get into that again. I'm not open to something like SuperdrolNG, Epistane, Havoc, or H-drol. I'm ok with something hormonal, just not a roid.

What are some good options for me? I've heard good things about MassFX. How would that rank? What else is there for me to look into?
 
kitchenstud said:
I tried Jungle Warfare and liked it, but since the new version is a roid, I don't want to get into that again. I'm not open to something like SuperdrolNG, Epistane, Havoc, or H-drol. I'm ok with something hormonal, just not a roid.

What are some good options for me? I've heard good things about MassFX. How would that rank? What else is there for me to look into?
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??? how can it be hormonal and not a roid? roids are hormones. same **** bro.

unless you're talking about GH wtf are you talking about?
 
onezerozero said:
??? how can it be hormonal and not a roid? roids are hormones. same **** bro.

unless you're talking about GH wtf are you talking about?
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i was thinking the same thing. i think what he is asking for is something that wont require a PCT.
 
The Drive/IGF-2/RPM combo is pretty spectacular for a non hormonal stack that is accepted by all sporting groups.
 
gsrhtch said:
i was thinking the same thing. i think what he is asking for is something that wont require a post cycle therapy.
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actually I think his was a relevant answer, if he is talking about ichtysteroids, I dont think they require PCT, pretty sure pro anabol doesnt if run alone without the bam and JW
 
mooch2321 said:
actually I think his was a relevant answer, if he is talking about ichtysteroids, I dont think they require post cycle therapy, pretty sure pro anabol doesnt if run alone without the bam and JW
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You can wither take synthetic hormones, or you can take something that increases your body's natural production of hormones. I think he is looking for something along the lines of that. There are tons of NHA stacks out there. Just do a search and see what you come up with.
 
What would you guys think of a XFactor, Activate, and Anabolic Pump stack?

I'm not looking to do this anytime soon, just trying to get a couple ideas for the future.
 
i mean really... supps aren't going to get you that far really. honestly i dont see the point unless you are an athlete or are addressing a particular health or well-being concern, as far as looking good, they dont do much... ecdysteroids might be worth a try... heard mixed reviews
 
onezerozero said:
i mean really... supps aren't going to get you that far really. honestly i dont see the point unless you are an athlete or are addressing a particular health or well-being concern, as far as looking good, they dont do much... ecdysteroids might be worth a try... heard mixed reviews
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wow you really believe that? there are quite a number of supplements that have good clinical data on their effectiveness, including creatine, beta alanine, forskolin, plus others
 
I believe what the OP was attempting to say was that he doesn't want anything suppressive to his own hormones, as in exogenous steroids. But he is alright with hormone-related products, I'm assuming. Natural hormone boostes, which is why he mentioned MassFX.

MassFX does have some rather impressive reviews. I've never used it, but from I gather, the product combined with HyperdrolX2(also an Anabolic Xtreme product) has been made out to be a solid natural anabolic stack.

Another option, which contains a similiar ingredient profile to MassFX(Divanil products), is Activate Xtreme. I'm currently using that @ 6 caps daily, and I'm pretty impressed at what it brings to the table.

"Diesel Nutrition" also has their own natural anabolic, Diesel Test Hardcore. Check out the reviews for these products, but I think you'll be satisfied with either one of them - they all have solid reviews and hit the same area.
 
kitchenstud said:
What would you guys think of a XFactor, Activate, and Anabolic Pump stack?

I'm not looking to do this anytime soon, just trying to get a couple ideas for the future.
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good stack right here for some mass and strength. X-factor gets some of the great reviews. it seems to be a favored strength/mass builder as far as non hormonal products go.
 
I suggest Rebound Reloaded + Activate Extreme if bulking as it will certainly produce cash money-esque results.Anecdotal feedback (not an overwhelming amount) has shown it to induce hunger,which conversely would be a poor choice if cutting.

My alternate choice would be 6-0X0 Extreme.



kitchenstud said:
I tried Jungle Warfare and liked it, but since the new version is a roid, I don't want to get into that again. I'm not open to something like SuperdrolNG, Epistane, Havoc, or H-drol. I'm ok with something hormonal, just not a roid.

What are some good options for me? I've heard good things about MassFX. How would that rank? What else is there for me to look into?
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Colin said:
I suggest Rebound Reloaded + Activate Extreme if bulking as it will certainly produce cash money-esque results.Anecdotal feedback (not an overwhelming amount) has shown it to induce hunger,which conversely would be a poor choice if cutting.

My alternate choice would be 6-0X0 Extreme.
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Funny you mention that because I started using 6 caps of Activate Extreme and I have noticed an increase in hunger. However, it is also a great nutrient repartitioner, so eating some extra kcals is not terrible.
 
Yeah,off the top of my head,LethalDJ (or LethalJD?) over at M+M started a cut on the two and it quickly diverted into a bulk.

He made out pretty damn good though in terms of b/f level and LBM/strength gain,paraphrased from his summation.



Rodja said:
Funny you mention that because I started using 6 caps of Activate Extreme and I have noticed an increase in hunger. However, it is also a great nutrient repartitioner, so eating some extra kcals is not terrible.
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Colin said:
Yeah,off the top of my head,LethalDJ (or LethalJD?) over at M+M started a cut on the two and it quickly diverted into a bulk.

He made out pretty damn good though in terms of b/f level and LBM/strength gain,paraphrased from his summation.
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I am going to be eating below maintenance kcals 5 days/wk and having 2 "refeeds." I usually don't get in enough kcals most of the week due to time constraints, so the refeeds are more of a preventative mechanism to avoid catabolism and to keep my energy levels up.
 
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