Extreme DRIVEing!

rms80 said:
RPM will help with the loading period- it has a more immediate effect on raising cAMP, but less of a long term effect....think of RPM as a kick-start for Drive :) try 3x2 or 3x3 plus RPM and see how you feel- if it is the right dose, you will feel it the first or second day after changing the dosage- if Drive is already working well, don't change it....
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I like the whole concept of non-stim. Drive and X-Factor doesnt make my heart go pounding like it's about to stop any minute. Im dying to see something in terms of strength and endurance in the weeks to come. :lol:
 
Cellardude said:
I like the whole concept of non-stim. Drive and X-Factor doesnt make my heart go pounding like it's about to stop any minute. Im dying to see something in terms of strength and endurance in the weeks to come. :lol:
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you started eh?....ahhh im getting anxious to start
 
Dropped back down to 6, I was having extreme ****s! But now that I loaded on 9 for a bit, the ingredients built up in my body and I am feeling the same strength on 6 now.
 
i wonder if someone lets say thats 196-201 pounds if they take 12 caps could something happen could they see improve effect of they just wasting product?
 
they could improve the flow of materials thru their intestines, I think thats the only improvement you'd see
 
TheMyth said:
Dropped back down to 6, I was having extreme ****s! But now that I loaded on 9 for a bit, the ingredients built up in my body and I am feeling the same strength on 6 now.
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lol - I'm still on 4 while my body gets used to it. I knew something was making me run to the toilet within the first 20 minutes of waking up. I have a weak stomache in general and small changes tend to mess up my insides and make me crap a lot. However the body is an amazing thing and is getting used to it within 5 days. I'm logging 4 right now and will probably use that dosage for another week just to get good fair log.
 
Cellardude; said:
Wow! That gets me all excited. tomorrows bench day. Gonna see how that works out for me. :dance:
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How did it go?
 
What sort of effects can I see from Drive when on a calorie deficit? I have a very physically demanding job, with lots of lifting for 8 hours. It's very hard for me to eat enough quality calories to compensate.
 
Kavinsky said:
What sort of effects can I see from Drive when on a calorie deficit? I have a very physically demanding job, with lots of lifting for 8 hours. It's very hard for me to eat enough quality calories to compensate.
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Well, what are your goals? If you're trying to put on mass, even Drive won't compensate for a huge cut in calories. Most of the effects are still notable even when in calorie deficit, however we've had quite a few users state that when they increased calories the effects seemed even better.
 
Lanbane said:
Well, what are your goals? If you're trying to put on mass, even Drive won't compensate for a huge cut in calories. Most of the effects are still notable even when in calorie deficit, however we've had quite a few users state that when they increased calories the effects seemed even better.
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I am leaning out LB. My calorie count's been the same but I noticed the top two parts of my abs are slightly visible agian. Drive + X-Factor + increased calories = still a slight leaning effect.
 
Lanbane said:
Well, what are your goals? If you're trying to put on mass, even Drive won't compensate for a huge cut in calories. Most of the effects are still notable even when in calorie deficit, however we've had quite a few users state that when they increased calories the effects seemed even better.
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I am trying to eat over maintenance but some days (work days) it is really hard due to the amount of physical heavy lifting i do. Basically I'm hoping that this supplement will at least help me maintain to gain strength while loosing fat if i eat under maintenance calories. On non-work days I can eat over maintenance no problems. I work 4 days per week.
 
Kavinsky said:
I am trying to eat over maintenance but some days (work days) it is really hard due to the amount of physical heavy lifting i do. Basically I'm hoping that this supplement will at least help me maintain to gain strength while loosing fat if i eat under maintenance calories. On non-work days I can eat over maintenance no problems. I work 4 days per week.
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It will help- I train very strenuously and run elite level track, plus I do warehousing and manufacturing for AN, so I am on my feet quite a bit (usually 4-8 hours a day), 6-7 days a week- Drive will help you gain strength, even in times of caloric deficit and a tough workload, and help you lose body fat at the same time....
 
how long is too long to run drive and rpm? ive been on rpm @ about 4-6 per day for three weeks now and drive about 2-4 caps per day for 2 weeks.:bb2:
 
fame126 said:
how long is too long to run drive and rpm? ive been on rpm @ about 4-6 per day for three weeks now and drive about 2-4 caps per day for 2 weeks.:bb2:
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I believe drive could be a staple, while RPM should be cycled probably every month or so to maximize the benefits. I usually like 1 month on, 1 month off cycles for stim based products.
 
guess my advice doesnt count. This was pulled from the FAQ of Drive.

Q: Is it safe to use DRIVE for long periods of time, or should I cycle it?

A: All research studies along with our own testing have indicated that it can be used continuously without any negative side effects. You will never want to go without DRIVE again - ask our product testers! However as with any product there is some degree of tolerance that can develop after extended use. If you experience this, we recommend cycling 8 weeks on / 4 weeks off.
 
Cellardude said:
guess my advice doesnt count. This was pulled from the FAQ of Drive.

Q: Is it safe to use DRIVE for long periods of time, or should I cycle it?

A: All research studies along with our own testing have indicated that it can be used continuously without any negative side effects. You will never want to go without DRIVE again - ask our product testers! However as with any product there is some degree of tolerance that can develop after extended use. If you experience this, we recommend cycling 8 weeks on / 4 weeks off.
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Good post!!
 
Nice, its the sickest feeling when you feel the elevated strength gains of a good product kicking in, especially if it pushes you to new levels of strength you've never been at before. I was stuck on 405 deads for 5-6 reps since the summer. Just hit 405 deads for 10 last week (I'm 200lbs). It might not sound like a huge jump, but that was a huge deal for me.
 
rMs80, congrats to your school for beating Michigan this season, haha. Since you have an MS in Exercise Phys, are you part of any organization? Like the NSCA? Do you recognize the name Dr. Lee Brown?
 
VolcomX311 said:
Nice, its the sickest feeling when you feel the elevated strength gains of a good product kicking in, especially if it pushes you to new levels of strength you've never been at before. I was stuck on 405 deads for 5-6 reps since the summer. Just hit 405 deads for 10 last week (I'm 200lbs). It might not sound like a huge jump, but that was a huge deal for me.
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I feel ya man, it is a great feeling. When I started I didn't think it was all that great, got the sweats but no strength at all, then once I had enough in my system, BOOM! Strength went through the roof, and endurance increased a whole lot!
 
I was strongly considering running some Drive very soon, however, I don't get to workout until 5-6pm (after work), so I'd be taking my pre-workout dose around 4:30-5:30pm. Won't that effect my sleep if I take Drive that late into the day?
 
VolcomX311 said:
I was strongly considering running some Drive very soon, however, I don't get to workout until 5-6pm (after work), so I'd be taking my pre-workout dose around 4:30-5:30pm. Won't that effect my sleep if I take Drive that late into the day?
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no it wont. Drive is non-stimulant, however the bottle may say dont take before 3 hours of sleep, I found that I am not troubled by sleep at all. I usually fall asleep at 11 or 12 as soon as I hit the bed. Also, you might notice the first few days you might be a little restless. I notice it when taking any new supplement. You should be fine after a day or two. I take Drive sometimes at 6 pm and I have perfect sleep. Hope that helps.
 
RPM maybe, but Drive shoudl not be a problem. I have taken Drive at 7pm before my workout, got to bed around 11 easily If you want some awsome sleep, try giving either lipotropin PM or IGF-2 a try, they both give you better sleep.
 
VolcomX311 said:
rMs80, congrats to your school for beating Michigan this season, haha. Since you have an MS in Exercise Phys, are you part of any organization? Like the NSCA? Do you recognize the name Dr. Lee Brown?
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Yeah- that was a trip when we beat Michigan-

As far as NSCA and ACSM- I have not been overly active in that area for a while (not since grad school)- been spending most of my time on R&D as far as formulation, and I haven't been involved with strength and conditioning research as much as I used to- but I do live all of the principles in my training :) I am trying to be as well-rounded as possible and look at all sides of the industry- I guess it just takes time.....

so I have and yes, I do recognize the name Lee Brown- he went to ETSU (right near ASU)- he has done some pretty amazing research in velocity training and biomechanics :)
 
rms80 said:
Yeah- that was a trip when we beat Michigan-

As far as NSCA and ACSM- I have not been overly active in that area for a while (not since grad school)- been spending most of my time on R&D as far as formulation, and I haven't been involved with strength and conditioning research as much as I used to- but I do live all of the principles in my training :) I am trying to be as well-rounded as possible and look at all sides of the industry- I guess it just takes time.....

so I have and yes, I do recognize the name Lee Brown- he went to ETSU (right near ASU)- he has done some pretty amazing research in velocity training and biomechanics :)
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Dr. Lee Brown is the president of the NSCA now. He's also my grad professor for Applied Principles of Strength and Conditioning, he's AWESOME. I'm at California State University Fullerton, nice meeting a fellow in a related field of study.
 
VolcomX311 said:
Dr. Lee Brown is the president of the NSCA now. He's also my grad professor for Applied Principles of Strength and Conditioning, he's AWESOME. I'm at California State University Fullerton, nice meeting a fellow in a related field of study.
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Sounds like the Theoretical and Practical Applications of Strength and Conditioning that we had at APP- that was my favorite class by a long shot- I really have been pretty out of touch with the newest published research-but I run track unattached (100m) and train with a couple of the better coaches in the US at a D-1 school (UNCC), so I have the Practical part reinforced constantly through training :D
 
rms80 said:
Sounds like the Theoretical and Practical Applications of Strength and Conditioning that we had at APP- that was my favorite class by a long shot- I really have been pretty out of touch with the newest published research-but I run track unattached (100m) and train with a couple of the better coaches in the US at a D-1 school (UNCC), so I have the Practical part reinforced constantly through training :D
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SPECIFICITY - SPECIFICITY - SPECIFICITY is rammed down your throat I'm sure (as it should be). What's your 100 meter time and your 1 squat RM? If all goes well I'll be working at Velocity Sports within a year. It's a Strength and Conditioning Facility out here in Orange County, CA. Unlike public or even private gyms, you need a minimum of a BA in Kines and you have to pass the CSCS. I believe all the trainers there are Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialists. Pretty hardcore. Much more specialized then saying you have a certificate from a weekend course in Anatomy/Physiology. "God willing." Anyway. I forgot what this thread was about, I know I've been researching Drive, so probably a Drive thread.

Looking forward to a Drive/JW stack this Christmas. Drive seems to have the most enthusiastic reactions from the posts I've dug through. I'm looking forward to it.
 
VolcomX311 said:
Looking forward to a Drive/JW stack this Christmas. Drive seems to have the most enthusiastic reactions from the posts I've dug through. I'm looking forward to it.
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so u gave in to the Drive/JW stack??....me too!!:woohoo:

...just gotta wait for NP to get some bulk products in stock to place my order
 
TheMyth said:
Ok, so I have been taking Drive for about 2.5 weeks now and I have to say that I am getting strength gains like no other, I mean VERY similar to the real anabolics. I was doing 6 a day for the first 2 week, felt no strength gains at all, just more sweating. So I decided to up the dose to 9 (3x3) and as soo as I did that, my strength went through the roof! I am not kidding when I say the strength gain is very close to real anabolic strength. I went from doing 70lbs x 12 on tricep pushdowns up to 130lbs x 12, it is unreal. I know 9 is not the most economical for most, but for me it is well worht my bottle going a little faster, the difference is night and day! I call it Extreme DRIVEing!
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both w/o and non w/o days?
 
EasyEJL said:
I think its better that way, keep the high levels. i'm right now sort of "preloading" drive at 6 a day both on and off days, after a week i'll drop to 4 a day both workout and non workout.
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good answer!
 
VolcomX311 said:
SPECIFICITY - SPECIFICITY - SPECIFICITY is rammed down your throat I'm sure (as it should be). What's your 100 meter time and your 1 squat RM? If all goes well I'll be working at Velocity Sports within a year. It's a Strength and Conditioning Facility out here in Orange County, CA. Unlike public or even private gyms, you need a minimum of a BA in Kines and you have to pass the CSCS. I believe all the trainers there are Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialists. Pretty hardcore. Much more specialized then saying you have a certificate from a weekend course in Anatomy/Physiology. "God willing." Anyway. I forgot what this thread was about, I know I've been researching Drive, so probably a Drive thread.

Looking forward to a Drive/JW stack this Christmas. Drive seems to have the most enthusiastic reactions from the posts I've dug through. I'm looking forward to it.
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Yeah- I took med-school equivalent A and P at MUSC- that was the hardest 1 year course I have ever had- but I also learned more out of it (and retained it)- than any other class.....


I think we may have a Velocity in Charlotte- but I really, really lucked out to be in the situation I am in as far as training. My best 100m time is around the 10.5-10.6 range, with my 60m in the 6.9 range- 1 RM squat is over 6- a couple of the elite guys I train with are over 7- we have good facility, good coaches (sprints and strength), sound periodization, etc. Lot of guys came down here from Raleigh after Trevor Graham got into trouble....
 
I'm sticking with
workout day 4 rpm preworkout, 1 workout day evenings with drive dose
nonworkout day 2 rpm morning with drive, 1 evening with drive.

I might just do 1 in the morning non workout days after the loading week, then the rpm will last a full month.
 
My lil' lady is a CSCS..... she can't squat over 6 though. lol

She has however incline DB pressed 50's. Little frat guys on the bench next to her had to pack up and walk away quickly...............
 
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