sfearl1's Test Cypionate & DBOL Cycle

sfearl1 said:
i'll probably do glutes next week. why do you say go glute first? i'm assuming you don't think they're that painful? i'm going to be pretty shakey with my left hand.
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i seriously dont feel a thing when i do glutes!!!!!.........did you check the how to do injects i posted....it's the little muscle above the glute.....
 
TripDog said:
i seriously dont feel a thing when i do glutes!!!!!.........did you check the how to do injects i posted....it's the little muscle above the glute.....
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yeah i studied that shiz for like an hour. i also have watched a million videos and sh1t. i think i am making it out to be more of an anxiety issue than it really is . its just that initial shakey feeling when i have the loaded pin in my hand that i need to get over.
 
sfearl1 said:
yeah i studied that shiz for like an hour. i also have watched a million videos and sh1t. i think i am making it out to be more of an anxiety issue than it really is . its just that initial shakey feeling when i have the loaded pin in my hand that i need to get over.
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I had the same issue. It took me like an hour just to stick myself the first time. after that, Its no big deal at all. Plus I have my gf do my glutes. I feel nothing in the right glute, and a little pinch in the left. its really nothing to worry about. GOOD LUCK
 
sfearl1 said:
yeah i studied that shiz for like an hour. i also have watched a million videos and sh1t. i think i am making it out to be more of an anxiety issue than it really is . its just that initial shakey feeling when i have the loaded pin in my hand that i need to get over.
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i did the same **** it took me 10min to it the first time, its amazing how you can be going for it and stop yourself 1mm before your skin. after 10 min of that i was like fvck it, it has to go in!!!! :food:
 
sdmf45 said:
i did the same **** it took me 10min to it the first time, its amazing how you can be going for it and stop yourself 1mm before your skin. after 10 min of that i was like fvck it, it has to go in!!!! :food:
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lol i know i would be like 1,....2,....JUST KIDDING. and do that like 50 times and just get a MM from my skin. The needles look so much more painful than they feel. If you break the skin quick enough and dont hit a nerve, there is virtually no pain.
 
question - in movies people get shocks fast and usually get like stuck really fast and hard


they really arent getting hit with anything right like fake needles and stuff


cuz you guys do it slow right?
 
nycste said:
question - in movies people get shocks fast and usually get like stuck really fast and hard


they really arent getting hit with anything right like fake needles and stuff


cuz you guys do it slow right?
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i usually go fast to break the skin, i get it about 1/4 inch in and then go slow so i can feel if i'm getting close to a nerve. it only hurts breaking the skin unless you hit something.
 
nycste said:
question - in movies people get shocks fast and usually get like stuck really fast and hard


they really arent getting hit with anything right like fake needles and stuff


cuz you guys do it slow right?
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I don't jab myself so fast that I cant control the needle. My gf sticks me most of the time. she puts it in with some speed but not a fast jab by any means.

when I shoot IGF-1 (29g 1\2 inch needles, I go pretty slow because I shoot into smaller muscle heads and I like to go slow.
 
damn fellas, i'm not gonna lie, i straight passed out! what a fvckin puusss! i did it myself though! the initial skin breaking pain was virtually non existent, injection went smoothly, slow, but smooth. no pain while injecting. i bled a little bit when i dejected. hope thats normal? i cleaned up and got light headed as fvck. i layed back in my chair and then (my friend said 20-30 sec.) i woke up and was shaking and sweating my nuts off! no joke. i think it was basically me realizing what i had just done, and seeing the blood made me woozy and sh1t. i'm not afraid of blood or anything though- i mean i've gotten in a serious car accident and had blood gushing down my face and was ok with it. my friend did his first injection too and he was fine. man i feel like a chump. at least that first one is out of the way. i am pretty sure the rest will be better. i think i just psyched myself out really bad. but yeah i was like 1,2,....1,2,....alright fvck it STICKKK
 
I felt a little jittery after my first shot. have a bit of sugar if you feel faint. CONGRATS THOUGH! its only easier from here on out. TIME TO GET BIG
 
sfearl1 said:
damn fellas, i'm not gonna lie, i straight passed out! what a fvckin puusss! i did it myself though! the initial skin breaking pain was virtually non existent, injection went smoothly, slow, but smooth. no pain while injecting. i bled a little bit when i dejected. hope thats normal? i cleaned up and got light headed as fvck. i layed back in my chair and then (my friend said 20-30 sec.) i woke up and was shaking and sweating my nuts off! no joke. i think it was basically me realizing what i had just done, and seeing the blood made me woozy and sh1t. i'm not afraid of blood or anything though- i mean i've gotten in a serious car accident and had blood gushing down my face and was ok with it. my friend did his first injection too and he was fine. man i feel like a chump. at least that first one is out of the way. i am pretty sure the rest will be better. i think i just psyched myself out really bad. but yeah i was like 1,2,....1,2,....alright fvck it STICKKK
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everything from now on should be smooth. don't worry about a little bit of blood after your injection. make sure you aspirate though. you don't want any blood to come in the needle.

anyways good job bro, even if you passed out!!! :lol:
 
thanks guys. i was definitely feeling hypoglycemic afterwards so i'll keep something sugary on hand next time. i hope that sh1t doesn't happen again!
 
sfearl1 said:
thanks guys. i was definitely feeling hypoglycemic afterwards so i'll keep something sugary on hand next time. i hope that sh1t doesn't happen again!
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it wont. after the first two times or so i almost look forward to it in a weird way...
 
pudzian2 said:
it wont. after the first two times or so i almost look forward to it in a weird way...
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i just want to prove to myself it won't happen again. almost to the point of doing my other quad right now. i am going to wait but its been bothering me that much. i need thursday to come quick!
 
sfearl1 said:
i just want to prove to myself it won't happen again. almost to the point of doing my other quad right now. i am going to wait but its been bothering me that much. i need thursday to come quick!
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if you want to just "practice" then stick yourself with some b12...it will help make you feel better too.
 
id neg rep you if i could lol. you ACTUALLY passed out! damn bro lol. congrats it should get easier (unless youre retarded). You are already looking forward to next shot haha remember to aspirate, although it can be tough sometimes esp if only using one hand.
 
pistonpump said:
id neg rep you if i could lol. you ACTUALLY passed out! damn bro lol. congrats it should get easier (unless youre retarded). You are already looking forward to next shot haha remember to aspirate, although it can be tough sometimes esp if only using one hand.
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yeah i tried to neg myself last night after the fact but i couldn't figure it out. lol my quad is a little sore today but nothing painful. dosed 20mg dbol 30 min. before prewo meal. had a pretty good back workout. nothing spectacular but it was good. i got a good placebo effect going right now making me push a little harder than usual but thats about it. whats your guys opinion on two a days while on? it would only be on back and leg days. back in the morning and legs in the evening. i don't want to overtrain but at the same time i want to aim for hitting everything in a 3 day period, have a day off, then take advantage of my faster recovery time while on and hit everything again. am i trying to do too much too soon?
 
sfearl1 said:
damn fellas, i'm not gonna lie, i straight passed out! what a fvckin puusss! i did it myself though! the initial skin breaking pain was virtually non existent, injection went smoothly, slow, but smooth. no pain while injecting. i bled a little bit when i dejected. hope thats normal? i cleaned up and got light headed as fvck. i layed back in my chair and then (my friend said 20-30 sec.) i woke up and was shaking and sweating my nuts off! no joke. i think it was basically me realizing what i had just done, and seeing the blood made me woozy and sh1t. i'm not afraid of blood or anything though- i mean i've gotten in a serious car accident and had blood gushing down my face and was ok with it. my friend did his first injection too and he was fine. man i feel like a chump. at least that first one is out of the way. i am pretty sure the rest will be better. i think i just psyched myself out really bad. but yeah i was like 1,2,....1,2,....alright fvck it STICKKK
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:eek: wow......ummmmmmm.......wow.....

my buddy was the same way....he couldn't even do his own igf shots cause he freeked when he saw blood???......i still recomend glute shots,cause then you really cant see any blood if it did happen to leak out a bit..(usually doesn't)......but i'll take your gear off your hands if it's too much mental torture :)
 
TripDog said:
:eek: wow......ummmmmmm.......wow.....

my buddy was the same way....he couldn't even do his own igf shots cause he freeked when he saw blood???......i still recomend glute shots,cause then you really cant see any blood if it did happen to leak out a bit..(usually doesn't)......but i'll take your gear off your hands if it's too much mental torture :)
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hey c'mon now its not thaaaat big of deal right!? i'm actually chomping at the bit for thursday to roll around so i can prove to myself it was just first shot anxiety. but yeah you can have my gear just let me know where to send it :fool2: :fool2:
 
sfearl1 said:
but yeah you can have my gear just let me know where to send it :fool2: :fool2:
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dam i got all excited till i saw the 2 little crazy icons...lol

THURSDAY IS JUDGEMENT DAY..............!!!!:hammer: ..i wanna see a youtube of this event!!!.........live on pay-per view, a inject newbie goes for round two,will he stay concious.......and nycste goes for broke at a petting zoo with body glitter and fish nets......:chick:

:)~
 
TripDog said:
dam i got all excited till i saw the 2 little crazy icons...lol

THURSDAY IS JUDGEMENT DAY..............!!!!:hammer: ..i wanna see a youtube of this event!!!.........live on pay-per view, a inject newbie goes for round two,will he stay concious.......and nycste goes for broke at a petting zoo with body glitter and fish nets......:chick:

:)~
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LOL!! i'll put it on youtube if i blackout again! give you guys a laugh! only if nycste videotapes his petting zoo rendezvous!
 
i dont think it would be wise to do back and legs split into one day.....at least not right now. I think i made the mistake of overtraining when i first took to the needles....its still quite possible and with the test not in full effect i would wait it out. Patience grasshopper, patience.
 
Gixxer82 said:
Congrats on pinning man, its a huge first step

I wish you the best

Lets hope you don't hit a vein :twisted: you'll pass out for sure you puss! :lol: just kidding
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i don't know what i would've done if that sh1t happened the first time!
 
pistonpump said:
i dont think it would be wise to do back and legs split into one day.....at least not right now. I think i made the mistake of overtraining when i first took to the needles....its still quite possible and with the test not in full effect i would wait it out. Patience grasshopper, patience.
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i was just getting used to the higher frequency, lower volume training that i was doing with hst and was responding really well to it. i wanted to try and keep the frequency up rather than training one body part once every 7 days. but i do realize too much too soon can inhibit gains and burnout the cns rather quickly so i will keep them on their own days. after thinking about it, it doesn't make sense trying to group two of the largest muscles groups together like that anyway.
 
sfearl1 said:
i was just getting used to the higher frequency, lower volume training that i was doing with hst and was responding really well to it. i wanted to try and keep the frequency up rather than training one body part once every 7 days. but i do realize too much too soon can inhibit gains and burnout the cns rather quickly so i will keep them on their own days. after thinking about it, it doesn't make sense trying to group two of the largest muscles groups together like that anyway.
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hahahaha exactly! back and legs :nono:

if you have a training style that does this without overtraining then id say stick with it. there are 3 variables as you know: intensity- frequency- volume you amp up one you should take down one....
 
i'm not sure whats going on but i feel like i'm experiencing a slight diuretic effect. its obviously not the dbol. this could just be a result of my diet lately as its been very clean with very little sodium. my weight is also down a few lbs from a few days ago?? tomorrow i have my second blackout, err i mean injection lol. actually looking forward to it so i can prove to myself i can do it.

i trained legs this morning. my right quad is still sore. it didn't inhibit my squats like i thought it would but my seated calf raises suffered tremendously. i don't know if my right quad is a little swollen but i felt like i couldn't work my left calf because it wasn't touching the padding as much as my right if that makes sense. i also felt a bit winded today. chest and bis tomorrow
 
sfearl1 said:
i'm not sure whats going on but i feel like i'm experiencing a slight diuretic effect. its obviously not the dbol. this could just be a result of my diet lately as its been very clean with very little sodium. my weight is also down a few lbs from a few days ago?? tomorrow i have my second blackout, err i mean injection lol. actually looking forward to it so i can prove to myself i can do it.

i trained legs this morning. my right quad is still sore. it didn't inhibit my squats like i thought it would but my seated calf raises suffered tremendously. i don't know if my right quad is a little swollen but i felt like i couldn't work my left calf because it wasn't touching the padding as much as my right if that makes sense. i also felt a bit winded today. chest and bis tomorrow
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what gauge needle are you using? I wonder if the diuretic effect is just as a result of an immune response to the test, dbol etc. It could be just that your body is naturally trying to flush out the intruding compounds...
 
pudzian2 said:
what gauge needle are you using? I wonder if the diuretic effect is just as a result of an immune response to the test, dbol etc. It could be just that your body is naturally trying to flush out the intruding compounds...
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25 x 1
 
pudzian2 said:
same here. Hopefully the painful injection sites will pass after a few more shots. Try to rotate sites so you dont build up scar tissue if the pain becomes an issue.
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the actual site as in exact point of injection is pain free/bump free/bruise free etc. its my entire outer quad that is sore as a mofo. like i had a brutal one leg workout the other day. i just thought it was something noteworthy imo. hopefully the muscle becomes a bit more 'accustomed' to having oil injected into it with time. perhaps i need to massage the muscle a little longer after injection to distribute the oil a bit. i have a feeling if this soreness was in my delt it would hinder my performance in the gym though. i'll be able to report on that soon enough..
 
sfearl1 said:
the actual site as in exact point of injection is pain free/bump free/bruise free etc. its my entire outer quad that is sore as a mofo. like i had a brutal one leg workout the other day. i just thought it was something noteworthy imo. hopefully the muscle becomes a bit more 'accustomed' to having oil injected into it with time. perhaps i need to massage the muscle a little longer after injection to distribute the oil a bit. i have a feeling if this soreness was in my delt it would hinder my performance in the gym though. i'll be able to report on that soon enough..
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I massage for about 2 minutes post injection and go for a bit of a walk to disperse the oil
 
pudzian2 said:
I massage for about 2 minutes post injection and go for a bit of a walk to disperse the oil
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haha i pass out for about 2 minutes post injection so i don't have a chance! lol tomorrow i will definitely try to do this. it seems the oil dispersed below the injection site right above my knee moreso than above the injection. sore as hell right now! damn i sound like a girl. i was squatin like a champ today though so that def. makes up for it. being shorter definitely has its advantages when lifting.
 
Gixxer82 said:
Get an electric heating pad, works wonders. Just sit with it over injection site after your done. Apply pressure for a minute after shot. I just put 1ml of t600 and 1ml of deca400 in my right glute 2 days ago and i'm still painless. That makes me a warrior, and you a pansy!

I ran the same prop as you and it was completely painless for me so I don't know why its hurting you :think:
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i'm running cyp. probably same oil though. who knows. maybe i'm going to die! :whiner: i didn't massage my leg afterwards and didn't put a heating pad so that probably does help.
 
sfearl1 said:
maybe i'm going to die!
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DUDE YOUR GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.........OMG ....................DAM................................SAVE THE CHILDREN.....................................................................



:)
 
Gixxer82 said:
Get an electric heating pad, works wonders. Just sit with it over injection site after your done. Apply pressure for a minute after shot. I just put 1ml of t600 and 1ml of deca400 in my right glute 2 days ago and i'm still painless. That makes me a warrior, and you a pansy!

I ran the same prop as you and it was completely painless for me so I don't know why its hurting you :think:
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gix i see you couldn't wait!!
 
Gixxer82 said:
Now that I feel like a jackass.....hahahha

definitely heating pad that shiz



waiting is overrated ;)
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what about icing before? would that help at all? i doubt it. i'm getting ready to take a shower and then go round two boys and ghouls!!
 
if you pass out again ...i swear im gonna lock you in a basement with your arms and legs tied up in the fetal possition,and let nycste go to town on you. after he just watched a brad pitt documentary..............
 
Gixxer82 said:
no no icing before would be bad!! You want to heat before if anything to relax the muscle. A nice hot shower will do. I always take a hot shower before I pin. I'm gonna pin today too! Maybe we'll get one of those homo-erotic connection thingys :toofunny:
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:jaw: God I hope not!! lol

yeah i'll try the heating pad method. i'm not sore anymore so thats a plus. well, not sore from the pin anyway. my legs are shot but thats from yesterdays workout.

i'm loving dbol by the way! today my sister was like, "youre already getting bigger!" she sees me everyday and knows 'what i'm doing' so that was a good sign. its only day 4 so we'll see whats going on this time next week. i've heard many times that week 2 is the sweet spot for dbol to really kick. pumps are insane in the gym. i'm still noticing a slight leaning out in my abdominal region that i wasn't expecting -but hey, i'll take it!! i can probably associate that with my incredibly clean diet as of late. but i'm still eating like a horse.
 
TripDog said:
if you pass out again ...i swear im gonna lock you in a basement with your arms and legs tied up in the fetal possition,and let nycste go to town on you. after he just watched a brad pitt documentary..............
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LOL!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! i bet thats the ending in the new SAW IV movie thats coming out soon!! :toofunny: "We're gonna play a little game..." hahahahaha
 
aahhhhhhhhhhh it was a beautiful thing fvckers!! smooth as silk! seriously it was like night and day. my nerves got a little shakey when i was holding the needle above my quad but then i told myself to quit being a pussssy and did it. no sweat. i'm hyped UP right now! trying the heating pad out to see if that relieves any soreness. oh, the weight gain from the dbol has begun... i'll start tracking weight tomorrow morning.
 
sfearl1 said:
aahhhhhhhhhhh it was a beautiful thing fvckers!! smooth as silk! seriously it was like night and day. my nerves got a little shakey when i was holding the needle above my quad but then i told myself to quit being a pussssy and did it. no sweat. i'm hyped UP right now! trying the heating pad out to see if that relieves any soreness. oh, the weight gain from the dbol has begun... i'll start tracking weight tomorrow morning.
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good now we don't have to "release the hounds". isn't dbol the sh*t. i wish i had some! :sad:
 
my weights been all over the place this week. started out at 185. then i dropped to like 182 and now today i was 187?? my diet has been the exact same every day this week, which is making me rather nauseous to eat the same thing day in and day out. i really need to find some new recipes.

my strength is climbing steadily though. and the pumps in the gym are almost uncomfortable. i'm looking thicker for sure. i'm still debating if i should use finasteride or not. i might bump the dbol to 60mg next week. bad idea?

ps. i am finding myself anxiously awaiting monday to come so i can inject again .. weird?? for my second rotation should i go delts or glutes?
 
sfearl1 said:
my weights been all over the place this week. started out at 185. then i dropped to like 182 and now today i was 187?? my diet has been the exact same every day this week, which is making me rather nauseous to eat the same thing day in and day out. i really need to find some new recipes.

my strength is climbing steadily though. and the pumps in the gym are almost uncomfortable. i'm looking thicker for sure. i'm still debating if i should use finasteride or not. i might bump the dbol to 60mg next week. bad idea?

ps. i am finding myself anxiously awaiting monday to come so i can inject again .. weird?? for my second rotation should i go delts or glutes?
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dude if your weights only changing 5lbs daily relax lol thats what we humans call drinks and food :)
 
nycste said:
dude if your weights only changing 5lbs daily relax lol thats what we humans call drinks and food :)
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yeah but i take a piss before i go to bed, in the middle of the night, and piss and sh1t in the morning before i weigh myself. i know what you mean though. if i weighed myself right now i'd probably be 190+ with all of the food i've consumed today. :hot:
 
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