Double Deuce - AnabolicMinds.com

Poll: In case anyone's curious who's subscribed

Be advised that this is a public poll: other users can see the choice(s) you selected.

Double Deuce

Page 1 of 8 1236 ... Last
  1. Recovering AXoholic
    thesinner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Age
    28
    Posts
    10,063
    Rep Power
    11890

    Reputation

    Double Deuce


    PLEASE USE THREAD TOOLS TO SUBSCRIBE TO THIS THREAD!!!!

    I don't mean to be a ****, but it sometimes annoys me to see a log where it takes up the first page and a half saying "Subscribed" or the newest of the comments "Nice to see someone starting a serious log"

    Please limit posts to questions you have about my log (i.e. nutrition, training, supplements, etc.). When I reach a new PR or have a good workout, I don't need to be reaffirmed by 10 other people. I know some people like such posts, but I could do without.



    And now the cycle. As an early birthday present to myself, I am kicking off a cycle (currently on day 3). This will be a log of my training during the cycle and probably the rest of the semester as well.
    Athletic Xtreme Rep
    Bob@athleticxtreme.com
    IFFI
    Ask me about the Athletic Xtreme Product Line

  2. Recovering AXoholic
    thesinner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Age
    28
    Posts
    10,063
    Rep Power
    11890

    Reputation

    Training will consist of a 4 day split. 3-4 exercises (plus calves, abs, and forearms) and only going to be doing 1-2 working sets per exercise. Will only post working sets.

    Legs

    Squats: 315*9
    Split Squat: 205*5
    Front Squat: 230*9
    DB Lunges: 90*4
    Seated Calf Raise: 205*12
    Behind the back Wrist Curls: 195*14
    Decline Crunches: 35*15

    Bodyweight Today: 183.5lbs
    Athletic Xtreme Rep
    Bob@athleticxtreme.com
    IFFI
    Ask me about the Athletic Xtreme Product Line
  3. Professional Member
    PumpingIron's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  190 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    4,688
    Rep Power
    2461

    Reputation

    I'm confused...are you running a cycle or are you talking about a training cycle?
    •   
       

  4. Banned
    RisingAgainst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    2,069
    Rep Power
    0

    Reputation

    SUBBED! (lol jk dude, I don't subscribe to threads ) anyways. seriously, what is this cycle here??
  5. Recovering AXoholic
    thesinner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Age
    28
    Posts
    10,063
    Rep Power
    11890

    Reputation

    1-T & M-TRN

    SD on workout days
    Athletic Xtreme Rep
    Bob@athleticxtreme.com
    IFFI
    Ask me about the Athletic Xtreme Product Line
  6. Professional Member
    PumpingIron's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  190 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    4,688
    Rep Power
    2461

    Reputation

    so you think you'll see some kind of effect from using superdrol only on workout days and not letting it build up in your system?


    ...and i don't like any of your poll answers...you need a nuetral one.
  7. Recovering AXoholic
    thesinner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Age
    28
    Posts
    10,063
    Rep Power
    11890

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    so you think you'll see some kind of effect from using superdrol only on workout days and not letting it build up in your system?


    ...and i don't like any of your poll answers...you need a nuetral one.
    Superdol is one of the few compounds strong enough to 'pulse' and still get somewhat of an anabolic effect from. I don't have the kahuna's to do an all out pulse, so I will see how/if this pans out for me.

    I'm going to have to figure out how to edit my poll. I'll put up a neutral choice for ya.
    Athletic Xtreme Rep
    Bob@athleticxtreme.com
    IFFI
    Ask me about the Athletic Xtreme Product Line
  8. Professional Member
    PumpingIron's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  190 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    4,688
    Rep Power
    2461

    Reputation

    Good, I'll follow along because I just don't like the pulse idea...it'd be good to have a skeptic, whom I trust, try it out.

    Whats the basic shell of your routine look like?
  9. Banned
    RisingAgainst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    2,069
    Rep Power
    0

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Superdol is one of the few compounds strong enough to 'pulse' and still get somewhat of an anabolic effect from. I don't have the kahuna's to do an all out pulse, so I will see how/if this pans out for me.

    I'm going to have to figure out how to edit my poll. I'll put up a neutral choice for ya.
    Click edit on your first post, then click "go advanced"
  10. Board Sponsor
    Distilled Water's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  191 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    9,681
    Rep Power
    2077854

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    1-T & M-TRN

    superdrol on workout days
    What are your doses of each?
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative
  11. Banned
    RisingAgainst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    2,069
    Rep Power
    0

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    What are your doses of each?
    I hope he goes 300-500mgs on the 1-t and 6-9mg trn, and pulses 30mg SD preworkout... this would be an efficient stack.. if he doesn't do that he's just a *****!
  12. Board Sponsor
    Distilled Water's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  191 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    9,681
    Rep Power
    2077854

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by RisingAgainst View Post
    I hope he goes 300-500mgs on the 1-t and 6-9mg trn, and pulses 30mg superdrol preworkout... this would be an efficient stack.. if he doesn't do that he's just a *****!
    I 2nd that
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative
  13. Recovering AXoholic
    thesinner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Age
    28
    Posts
    10,063
    Rep Power
    11890

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by RisingAgainst View Post
    I hope he goes 300-500mgs on the 1-t and 6-9mg trn, and pulses 30mg superdrol preworkout... this would be an efficient stack.. if he doesn't do that he's just a *****!
    Close.

    starting off at
    300mg 1-T
    6mg M-TRN
    20mg SD

    Not sure if I'll have enough to run all the way through pulsing SD, might have to resort to 40mg PP near the end. Also not sure if I wanna stop at 4 or go for 5 or 6 weeks.
    Athletic Xtreme Rep
    Bob@athleticxtreme.com
    IFFI
    Ask me about the Athletic Xtreme Product Line
  14. Banned
    RisingAgainst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    2,069
    Rep Power
    0

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Close.

    starting off at
    300mg 1-T
    6mg M-TRN
    20mg superdrol

    Not sure if I'll have enough to run all the way through pulsing SD, might have to resort to 40mg PP near the end. Also not sure if I wanna stop at 4 or go for 5 or 6 weeks.
    6 weeks of 1-t is ideal bro.. also 500mgs since you arent using 4ad or mohn with it... kick some ass
  15. Board Moderator
    Never enough
    EasyEJL's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  205 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Age
    46
    Posts
    31,830
    Rep Power
    768795

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Close.

    starting off at
    300mg 1-T
    6mg M-TRN
    20mg superdrol

    Not sure if I'll have enough to run all the way through pulsing SD, might have to resort to 40mg PP near the end. Also not sure if I wanna stop at 4 or go for 5 or 6 weeks.
    The 1-t is oral not transdermal right?
    This space for rent

    Phenadrol Log http://anabolicminds.com/forum/suppl...-hell-did.html - AMAZING fat loss results so far
  16. Recovering AXoholic
    thesinner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Age
    28
    Posts
    10,063
    Rep Power
    11890

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    The 1-t is oral not transdermal right?
    oral. 1-T THP ethers.

    also taking trisorbagen to (hopefully) enhance absorption of this.
    Athletic Xtreme Rep
    Bob@athleticxtreme.com
    IFFI
    Ask me about the Athletic Xtreme Product Line
  17. Banned
    RisingAgainst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    2,069
    Rep Power
    0

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    oral. 1-T THP ethers.

    also taking trisorbagen to (hopefully) enhance absorption of this.
    Definitely go 6 weeks brutha.. pulsing/1-t has six weeks written all over it dude. edit: nevermind, check your PM's.
  18. Recovering AXoholic
    thesinner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Age
    28
    Posts
    10,063
    Rep Power
    11890

    Reputation

    Shoulders

    Snatches: 155*2
    DB Military Press: 85*5
    DB Side Laterals: 30*13
    DB Rear Delt Raise: 35*12
    Standing Calf Raise (smith machine): 585*12
    Barbell Wrist curls to the front: 105*15
    Decline Russian Twists: 25*15

    Bodyweight today: 184.5lbs
    Athletic Xtreme Rep
    Bob@athleticxtreme.com
    IFFI
    Ask me about the Athletic Xtreme Product Line
  19. Professional Member
    PumpingIron's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  190 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    4,688
    Rep Power
    2461

    Reputation

    sinner...whats your routine?

    legs
    shoulders
    chest
    back
    arms
    OFF
    OFF

    ????....just taking a guess here
  20. Recovering AXoholic
    thesinner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Age
    28
    Posts
    10,063
    Rep Power
    11890

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    sinner...whats your routine?
    Wow, I never mentioned it. My bad.

    M - Legs
    T - Shoulders
    W - Off
    R - Back & Biceps
    F - Chest & Triceps
    S & S - Off

    Workouts vary slightly every other week, simply because I couldn't fit all of my favorite exercises into one workout......so I do some every other workout.
    Athletic Xtreme Rep
    Bob@athleticxtreme.com
    IFFI
    Ask me about the Athletic Xtreme Product Line
  21. Professional Member
    PumpingIron's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  190 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    4,688
    Rep Power
    2461

    Reputation

    sounds good, thanks...I'd recommend running the SD 5 days a week and taking a break on the weekends...it'd give more adequate time for the compound to build up before you pulse off...
  22. Recovering AXoholic
    thesinner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Age
    28
    Posts
    10,063
    Rep Power
    11890

    Reputation

    lol, I'll see how this pans out for the first couple of weeks, and then I'll look into your recommendations. This is an SD clone, so there's probably a good deal of anadrol in it to give off some nice anabolism (and nasty sides).

    I'm on day 4 and I'm already up 3lbs so it's not as though I need to make gains more rapidly. (I'm actually a little concerned at how fast they're coming).
    Athletic Xtreme Rep
    Bob@athleticxtreme.com
    IFFI
    Ask me about the Athletic Xtreme Product Line
  23. Lift Heavy
    bLacKjAck.'s Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  241 lbs.
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Age
    30
    Posts
    3,949
    Rep Power
    2082

    Reputation

    subbed, nice lifts...
  24. Elite Member
    ryansm's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  305 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    8,125
    Rep Power
    22018

    Reputation

    Snatches are great for shoulder development, the best imo.

    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post

    Snatches: 155*2
  25. Professional Member
    nycste's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  250 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    3,174
    Rep Power
    1689

    Reputation

    have you changed ur diet so far to help gain those 3lbs or diet is about the same just wondering

    starting off nice

    "Superdol is one of the few compounds strong enough to 'pulse' and still get somewhat of an anabolic effect from. I don't have the kahuna's to do an all out pulse, so I will see how/if this pans out for me. "

    explain this to me i know your using superdrol on workout days only which is 4x a week no? but your afraid of doing an all out pulse. can you explain this to me?
  26. Board Moderator
    Never enough
    EasyEJL's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  205 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Age
    46
    Posts
    31,830
    Rep Power
    768795

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by nycste View Post
    have you changed ur diet so far to help gain those 3lbs or diet is about the same just wondering

    starting off nice

    "Superdol is one of the few compounds strong enough to 'pulse' and still get somewhat of an anabolic effect from. I don't have the kahuna's to do an all out pulse, so I will see how/if this pans out for me. "

    explain this to me i know your using superdrol on workout days only which is 4x a week no? but your afraid of doing an all out pulse. can you explain this to me?
    he's also running a full cycle of 1-t + trn at the same time. so he's not completely pulsing, just getting a little extra workout days
    This space for rent

    Phenadrol Log http://anabolicminds.com/forum/suppl...-hell-did.html - AMAZING fat loss results so far
  27. Recovering AXoholic
    thesinner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Age
    28
    Posts
    10,063
    Rep Power
    11890

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Snatches are great for shoulder development, the best imo.
    snatches are awesome. very humbling though.

    have you changed ur diet so far to help gain those 3lbs or diet is about the same just wondering
    When I'm hungry.....I eat....until I'm not hungry. I'm trying to eat at least 250-500 extra kcals per day.


    explain this to me i know your using superdrol on workout days only which is 4x a week no? but your afraid of doing an all out pulse. can you explain this to me?
    This will be an "on cycle pulse" I am using TRN and 1-T the whole way through.
    Athletic Xtreme Rep
    Bob@athleticxtreme.com
    IFFI
    Ask me about the Athletic Xtreme Product Line
  28. Recovering AXoholic
    thesinner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Age
    28
    Posts
    10,063
    Rep Power
    11890

    Reputation

    Cardio

    Took it pretty light today. I have a lot of classes on Wednesdays, and (collectively) it takes me about 45 minutes of riding my bike to and from classes. That's a workout in itself if you ask me.

    Jumped rope for 20.
    Afterwards I walked on the treadmill @ 15 grad% incline for 15 minutes.
    Nothing too strenuous. Just enough to get me up, moving, and feeling energized.

    Weight today was 182.5lbs, but in all fairness I usually weigh a pound or two less after cardio workouts.
    Athletic Xtreme Rep
    Bob@athleticxtreme.com
    IFFI
    Ask me about the Athletic Xtreme Product Line
  29. Recovering AXoholic
    thesinner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Age
    28
    Posts
    10,063
    Rep Power
    11890

    Reputation

    Back & Biceps. I threw in some "Rest Pause" sets today on exercises where I could more easily do this with.

    So it will go Weight*Reps+Rest Pause Reps

    Barbell Row: 285*4+1
    Standing DB Row: 95*4+1
    High Pulley Cable Pulldowns: 160*7
    Incline DB Curls: 55*8+1
    Seated Calf Raise: 205*12
    Hyperextensions (TUT): 45*15
    Decline Crunches: 35*15

    Bodyweight Today: 184lbs.

    Paid attention to all the extra food I'm eating and it seems that this is the case: Diet's been getting an additional 50g protein + 50g Carbs + 10 g fats or so each day.
    Athletic Xtreme Rep
    Bob@athleticxtreme.com
    IFFI
    Ask me about the Athletic Xtreme Product Line
  30. Board Moderator
    Unbreakable
    David Dunn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Age
    49
    Posts
    11,709
    Rep Power
    986895

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    I like the idea of pulsing superdrol for the very reason you stated.

    One thing of concern that you may want to look out for; lethargy. I've not run M-TRN but have I run 1-T and superdol solo and concurrent. Even the smallest amount of 4-AD could be a tremendous help in well being and energy levels.

    Good luck.
  31. Board Sponsor
    macedaddy's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  172 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Age
    36
    Posts
    6,068
    Rep Power
    3136

    Reputation

    20mg superdrol pre workout?

    PI, if he pulses, SD 5 days a week, its not as effective as a pulse, the rest on wednesday helps with the whole pulse idea. 2 days on the weekend-only is not enough off time for the SD
  32. Recovering AXoholic
    thesinner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Age
    28
    Posts
    10,063
    Rep Power
    11890

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    20mg superdrol pre workout?

    PI, if he pulses, superdrol 5 days a week, its not as effective as a pulse, the rest on wednesday helps with the whole pulse idea. 2 days on the weekend-only is not enough off time for the SD
    I've upgraded to 30.
    Athletic Xtreme Rep
    Bob@athleticxtreme.com
    IFFI
    Ask me about the Athletic Xtreme Product Line
  33. Board Moderator
    Never enough
    EasyEJL's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  205 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Age
    46
    Posts
    31,830
    Rep Power
    768795

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    I've upgraded to 30.
    as just a single dose eh?
    This space for rent

    Phenadrol Log http://anabolicminds.com/forum/suppl...-hell-did.html - AMAZING fat loss results so far
  34. Professional Member
    PumpingIron's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  190 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    4,688
    Rep Power
    2461

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    20mg superdrol pre workout?

    PI, if he pulses, superdrol 5 days a week, its not as effective as a pulse, the rest on wednesday helps with the whole pulse idea. 2 days on the weekend-only is not enough off time for the SD
    You don't think it would clear your system in 2 days...
  35. Board Sponsor
    macedaddy's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  172 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Age
    36
    Posts
    6,068
    Rep Power
    3136

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    You don't think it would clear your system in 2 days...
    from what I have heard (and pulsing is relatively a new "buzz word") it wouldn't. The wednesday is a good, needed, break. 5 days on is a big build-up.

    I have the same schedule as Sinner and have talked to Dr. D quite extensively about pulsing and the split that sinner has is the absolute limit of a pulse.
  36. Recovering AXoholic
    thesinner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Age
    28
    Posts
    10,063
    Rep Power
    11890

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by B5150 View Post
    I like the idea of pulsing superdrol for the very reason you stated.

    One thing of concern that you may want to look out for; lethargy. I've not run M-TRN but have I run 1-T and superdol solo and concurrent. Even the smallest amount of 4-AD could be a tremendous help in well being and energy levels.

    Good luck.
    Lethargy is definitely happening. I've been through worse (much worse), though.

    What would be a good dose of 4-AD to run, in order to counteract these effects? From what I've gathered, it seems to help by increasing estrogen levels. Do you think something as cheap and simple as DHEA might help?

    Thanks for your supporting project Get-Sinner-Bigger. I love hearing critiques (half of why I do these logs).
    Athletic Xtreme Rep
    Bob@athleticxtreme.com
    IFFI
    Ask me about the Athletic Xtreme Product Line
  37. Board Moderator
    Unbreakable
    David Dunn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Age
    49
    Posts
    11,709
    Rep Power
    986895

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    What would be a good dose of 4-AD to run, in order to counteract these effects? From what I've gathered, it seems to help by increasing estrogen levels. Do you think something as cheap and simple as DHEA might help?
    There is much speculation as to what causes the lethargy. We know superdrol causes hypo in some. 1-T is notorious for lethargy as well, yet I don't know the mechanism.

    I would imagine that the fact that you inhibit endogenous test can certainly compound any of the other mechanism that is associated with those two compounds. Both those compounds can do so rather quickly and rather well. I am not too versed on the action of estrogen in this case. I imagine a 4AD dose correlated to endogenous test levels after absorption and conversion might be just enough to improve well being and energy. Some can see this in as little as 400mg/d. I'm going off a gestimated speculation. I'm not a chemist in the real world, but I do play one on the internet
  38. Banned
    Travis's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Age
    32
    Posts
    1,966
    Rep Power
    0

    Reputation

    Sin, fwiw I tried the pulse thing and bailed into a full on ED dosing after a week. I didnt feel any natural test rebound on the off days or whatever they say it is.
  39. New Member
    Ronnie's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Age
    29
    Posts
    449
    Rep Power
    315

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by B5150 View Post
    There is much speculation as to what causes the lethargy. We know superdrol causes hypo in some. 1-T is notorious for lethargy as well, yet I don't know the mechanism.

    I would imagine that the fact that you inhibit endogenous test can certainly compound any of the other mechanism that is associated with those two compounds. Both those compounds can do so rather quickly and rather well. I am not too versed on the action of estrogen in this case. I imagine a 4AD dose correlated to endogenous test levels after absorption and conversion might be just enough to improve well being and energy. Some can see this in as little as 400mg/d. I'm going off a gestimated speculation. I'm not a chemist in the real world, but I do play one on the internet
    Whats a good reputable company that carries 4AD?
  40. Professional Member
    nycste's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  250 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    3,174
    Rep Power
    1689

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie View Post
    Whats a good reputable company that carries 4AD?
    no one

    there is 1 or 2 1ad clones
  

  
 

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Double order by accident
    By BigP0ppa3 in forum Nutraplanet
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 03-18-2005, 04:37 PM
  2. Double check myself
    By Skye in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 49
    Last Post: 09-29-2004, 03:33 PM
  3. Double Splits
    By iron addict in forum Exercise Science
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 07-13-2004, 11:20 PM
  4. IHGM Back double Bi shot
    By IHateGymMorons in forum Pics
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 06-30-2004, 06:38 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Log in
Log in