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    20mg superdrol pre workout?

    PI, if he pulses, SD 5 days a week, its not as effective as a pulse, the rest on wednesday helps with the whole pulse idea. 2 days on the weekend-only is not enough off time for the SD

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    Quote Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    20mg superdrol pre workout?

    PI, if he pulses, superdrol 5 days a week, its not as effective as a pulse, the rest on wednesday helps with the whole pulse idea. 2 days on the weekend-only is not enough off time for the SD
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    20mg superdrol pre workout?

    PI, if he pulses, superdrol 5 days a week, its not as effective as a pulse, the rest on wednesday helps with the whole pulse idea. 2 days on the weekend-only is not enough off time for the SD
    You don't think it would clear your system in 2 days...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    You don't think it would clear your system in 2 days...
    from what I have heard (and pulsing is relatively a new "buzz word") it wouldn't. The wednesday is a good, needed, break. 5 days on is a big build-up.

    I have the same schedule as Sinner and have talked to Dr. D quite extensively about pulsing and the split that sinner has is the absolute limit of a pulse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B5150 View Post
    I like the idea of pulsing superdrol for the very reason you stated.

    One thing of concern that you may want to look out for; lethargy. I've not run M-TRN but have I run 1-T and superdol solo and concurrent. Even the smallest amount of 4-AD could be a tremendous help in well being and energy levels.

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    Lethargy is definitely happening. I've been through worse (much worse), though.

    What would be a good dose of 4-AD to run, in order to counteract these effects? From what I've gathered, it seems to help by increasing estrogen levels. Do you think something as cheap and simple as DHEA might help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    What would be a good dose of 4-AD to run, in order to counteract these effects? From what I've gathered, it seems to help by increasing estrogen levels. Do you think something as cheap and simple as DHEA might help?
    There is much speculation as to what causes the lethargy. We know superdrol causes hypo in some. 1-T is notorious for lethargy as well, yet I don't know the mechanism.

    I would imagine that the fact that you inhibit endogenous test can certainly compound any of the other mechanism that is associated with those two compounds. Both those compounds can do so rather quickly and rather well. I am not too versed on the action of estrogen in this case. I imagine a 4AD dose correlated to endogenous test levels after absorption and conversion might be just enough to improve well being and energy. Some can see this in as little as 400mg/d. I'm going off a gestimated speculation. I'm not a chemist in the real world, but I do play one on the internet
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    Sin, fwiw I tried the pulse thing and bailed into a full on ED dosing after a week. I didnt feel any natural test rebound on the off days or whatever they say it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B5150 View Post
    There is much speculation as to what causes the lethargy. We know superdrol causes hypo in some. 1-T is notorious for lethargy as well, yet I don't know the mechanism.

    I would imagine that the fact that you inhibit endogenous test can certainly compound any of the other mechanism that is associated with those two compounds. Both those compounds can do so rather quickly and rather well. I am not too versed on the action of estrogen in this case. I imagine a 4AD dose correlated to endogenous test levels after absorption and conversion might be just enough to improve well being and energy. Some can see this in as little as 400mg/d. I'm going off a gestimated speculation. I'm not a chemist in the real world, but I do play one on the internet
    Whats a good reputable company that carries 4AD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie View Post
    Whats a good reputable company that carries 4AD?
    no one

    there is 1 or 2 1ad clones
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycste View Post
    no one

    there is 1 or 2 1ad clones
    Same thing I take it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie View Post
    Same thing I take it?
    1ad
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    not related i think at all but of course sound familiar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis View Post
    Sin, fwiw I tried the pulse thing and bailed into a full on ED dosing after a week. I didnt feel any natural test rebound on the off days or whatever they say it is.
    I hear ya. I'm mainly taking it as a pre-workout stim. With all the other sh*t I'm taking ED, I haven't been able to notice much of a decrease yet.


    Whats a good reputable company that carries 4AD?
    4-AD and 1-AD were banned in the steroids act of 2004. This thread is not the place for such a discussion.
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    Weighted Dips: 170*4+1
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    how do you get 170lbs on for dips? just wondering
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    so the new calf raises are on a machine or a plate loaded machine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    how do you get 170lbs on for dips? just wondering
    3 Plates and a 35. I also flare my elbows out. It allows me to work the chest more....and do a sh*t ton more weight.

    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron
    so the new calf raises are on a machine or a plate loaded machine?
    It's plate loaded, but there's almost always 400+lbs left on the machine because no one ever cleans up after there sets at this gym. There's also a stack of 100lbs right next to the machine.
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    Saturday, September 29th
    There was a football game on Saturday so the parking lot to the rec center was closed for old people with $5. So I rode my bike to the gym. Practiced my snatches with really light weight to work on my form (using the techniques advised by ryansm of AM). Jumped rope for a half hour, and rode my bike back home.

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    Sundays are almost always jogging day. I like to go out for a long jog (4-5ish miles) at a nice easy pace. It really helps me clear my mind and relax for the up and coming work week. Perhaps it's just the beta-endorphin that kicks in after the second mile
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    Legs. I decided to focus on the eccentric phase on my exercises this week. All sets were done at lighter weight, slower tempo.

    Split Squat: 155*9
    Front Squat: 205*10
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Legs. I decided to focus on the eccentric phase on my exercises this week. All sets were done at lighter weight, slower tempo.

    Split Squat: 155*9
    Front Squat: 205*10
    DB Lunges: 80*4
    Stiff-Legged Deadlift: 245*10
    Seated Calf Raise: 210*11
    Behind the Back Wrist Curl: 195*12
    Decline Crunches: 35*16

    Bodyweight this morning: 185.5lbs baby!
    nice squats and deads.. you find it easy balancing or keeping that weight on your front squats easy? its hard for me to hold anyweight haha
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    nyc, how do you hold the bar? there are 2 highly used ways of holding the bar on a front squat...

    1. crossed, kinda like you're doing a crunch
    2. as if you had just cleaned the bar...

    One might be easier than the other for you. 2 would probably be easiest for balance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    nyc, how do you hold the bar? there are 2 highly used ways of holding the bar on a front squat...

    1. crossed, kinda like you're doing a crunch
    2. as if you had just cleaned the bar...

    One might be easier than the other for you. 2 would probably be easiest for balance.
    tried everything.

    from olympic, to crossed to switched arms crossed to almost passing out once lol isnt there some thing you can make youself passout it think doing front squats haha

    i also havent done them in a while im sure it would come back to me alittle better i used to be able to hold it olypmic style but i tried other day and i couldnt. also my back was acting up so we shall see next time
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    I personally like the hang-clean method for holding it. Stick your elbows forward and the bar rests perfectly across your upper chest and shoulders. The guy I train with prefers the arms crossed method. To each his own I guess.

    I'm going to PM you some shtuff.

    In all honesty, I prefer front squats to conventional ones with regards to overall comfort in doing them.
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    Exactly...I prefer doing them with my arms crossed...the bar seems to fit into a divot in my delts perfectly.
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    Shoulders.

    Snatches: 145*3
    DB Military Press: 70*9
    Cable Side Lateral Raise: 60*7
    DB Rear Delt Raise: 20*12 (hold at the top for a few seconds)
    Leg Press Calf Raise: 560*13
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    I'm curious on what the decline russian twist is?
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    I'm sitting on one of those declines, like someone about to do decline crunches with a plate. I'm about halfway up in the crunching ROM. Holding the plate straight out in front of me, I twist my shoulders from side to side.

    Imagine this, except I'm on an decline/incline (whichever way you're looking at it), I'm holding a weight, and I'm much better looking :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    I'm sitting on one of those declines, like someone about to do decline crunches with a plate. I'm about halfway up in the crunching ROM. Holding the plate straight out in front of me, I twist my shoulders from side to side.

    Imagine this, except I'm on an incline, I'm holding a weight, and I'm much better looking :P
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    In that case instead of settling for second best pictures i'll wait for your picture version of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by crader View Post
    In that case instead of settling for second best pictures i'll wait for your picture version of it
    No offense, but watching Wizz-Ra do the Russian Twist is a but unappealing to the eye... he's much sexier doing squats and cardio.... LMFAO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by crader View Post
    I'm curious on what the decline russian twist is?
    I was so scared to scroll down and see the answer to this....
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