[subweevil]

Man, I've only got til' saturday and then I'm a married man. I should be doing more wedding stuff, but too much good info here. I will add that spinach is great for balancing high acidity, the darker the better. As for quinoa, I like it and it's a very protein complete carb. At this point, though, I'm not sure of it's acidity.

[Rodja]

oats are no good in my opinion. there is very little gluten but they are highly acidic like all grains. you also dont want to eat so much insoluble fiber. ive mentioned it before, you want naturally flowing digestion cycles....not a sped up process because you are eating a ton of insoluble fiber. going once a day > more than once a day because frequent cycles empty out good intestine bacteria. scientists say that the fiber twigs literally scrape the intestines forcing some kind of mucus to be released to lubricate and ease the damage. thats why you only need the fiber thats in fruits/vegetables. if you eat enough vegetables there wont be any constipation issues.

basmati rice is good. i know rodja eats it post workout. the acidity is much lower than other kinds of rice. you can google the PRAL score of food, that will give you an idea how acidic or alkaline the food is.

quinoa i have no experience with. im not sure if its sprouted or not which would make a difference in its anti-nutrient content.

dont eat ephedrine. that sh#t is too harsh on the body/heart. if you wanna lose fat, put yourself in keto and do less martial arts. use weekends for re-carbing. let me know what else you need to know

Quinoa is gluten-free, which is really how I eat now instead of true Paleo. Anton started his usage of red potatoes per my recommendations since it's both alkalinic and gluten-free. Plus, they're really high in potassium and can be made in many ways to avoid eating the same things.

I still take in quite a bit of carbs since I've been adding more cardio into my training and am still performance based as opposed to aesthetically based. Right now, I'd say I'm getting about 275-300g of carbs along with 240-300g of protein and 60-80g of fat. All of my fats come from beef, whole eggs, EVOO, coconut milk, and mixed nuts.

[JudoJosh]

I know me too. Just had another half of sweet potato and banana mash with a nice big steak mmmm

Banana mash? what is this you speak of? Is it like mashed potatoes but with bananas instead?

oats are no good in my opinion. there is very little gluten but they are highly acidic like all grains. you also dont want to eat so much insoluble fiber. ive mentioned it before, you want naturally flowing digestion cycles....not a sped up process because you are eating a ton of insoluble fiber. going once a day > more than once a day because frequent cycles empty out good intestine bacteria. scientists say that the fiber twigs literally scrape the intestines forcing some kind of mucus to be released to lubricate and ease the damage. thats why you only need the fiber thats in fruits/vegetables. if you eat enough vegetables there wont be any constipation issues.

basmati rice is good. i know rodja eats it post workout. the acidity is much lower than other kinds of rice. you can google the PRAL score of food, that will give you an idea how acidic or alkaline the food is.

quinoa i have no experience with. im not sure if its sprouted or not which would make a difference in its anti-nutrient content.

dont eat ephedrine. that sh#t is too harsh on the body/heart. if you wanna lose fat, put yourself in keto and do less martial arts. use weekends for re-carbing. let me know what else you need to know

I have some red potatos that I will start taking for my pre workout, I'll stop with the oats. Thanks for clearing that up, I was wondering about it.

I am presently out of basmati rice. I had opted to get quinoa instead during my last grocery trip. I had read some articles on vegetarian eating and saw many people eat quinoa with black beans and say they formed a complete protein. So I figured it would be some cheap meals to have once in a while instead of meat. But now that I have been looking into this paleo lifestyle and it preaches against beans I never made the quinoa. I also am not sure if it is sprouted or not. This is what a quick google search turned up if this helps

Quinoa (pronounced Keen-wah) is an ancient food that is not yet well known in North America. It has been cultivated in South American Andes since at least 3,000 B.C. and has been a staple food of millions of native inhabitants. The ancient Incas called quinoa the "mother grain" and revered it as sacred. Each year at planting time it was traditional for the Inca leader to plant the first quinoa seed using a solid gold shovel! Quinoa was used to sustain Incan armies, which frequently marched for many days eating a mixture of quinoa and fat, known as "war balls." Beginning with the Spanish conquest in the 1500s, there was a 400-year decline in the production of quinoa. It became a minor crop at that time and was grown only by peasants in remote areas for local consumption.
Technically quinoa is not a true grain, but is the seed of the Chenopodium or Goosefoot plant. It is used as a grain and substituted for grains because of it's cooking characteristics. The name comes from the Greek words, chen (a goose) and pous (a foot). This is due to a resemblance of the leaves of the plant to the webbed foot of a goose. The leaves are lobed or toothed and often triangular in shape. The succulent like plant grows from 4 to 6 feet high and has many angular branches. The flower heads are branched and when in seed looks much like millet, with large clusters of seeds at the end of a stalk. The plant will grow in a variety of conditions but favors a cool, arid climate and higher elevations. Beets, spinach, Swiss chard, and lamb's quarters are all relatives of quinoa
For people who need to follow a gluten free diet regime the good news is that standard quinoa grains are gluten free. Quinoa grain can be included into your diet easily and you can be sure that as long as the other ingredients are also gluten free there will be no problem.

There are however quinoa food products where it is not quite so clear cut. Quinoa flour and quinoa flakes are processed quinoa and cannot be guaranteed gluten free. The problem comes because some quinoa manufacturers use the same factory to produce other flours. This means that there can be some cross contamination with wheat flour products.

So since quinoa is not really a grain and the article said it is realated to spinach is it safe to say it is paleo friendly?

As for going keto.. I can imagine that would be fairly hard to do paleo. When I was doing the anabolic diet I relied heavily on cheeses for my fat intake. It would be hard to hit the needed percent of fat in your diet while still being paleo. That would have to be alot of nuts!! And I can't imagine eating without fruit in my diet now. I dont think a keto diet would be an option for me anymore.

Man, I've only got til' saturday and then I'm a married man. I should be doing more wedding stuff, but too much good info here. I will add that spinach is great for balancing high acidity, the darker the better. As for quinoa, I like it and it's a very protein complete carb. At this point, though, I'm not sure of it's acidity.

Congrats on the nuptials buddy!!!

[JudoJosh]

Quinoa is gluten-free, which is really how I eat now instead of true Paleo. Anton started his usage of red potatoes per my recommendations since it's both alkalinic and gluten-free. Plus, they're really high in potassium and can be made in many ways to avoid eating the same things.

I still take in quite a bit of carbs since I've been adding more cardio into my training and am still performance based as opposed to aesthetically based. Right now, I'd say I'm getting about 275-300g of carbs along with 240-300g of protein and 60-80g of fat. All of my fats come from beef, whole eggs, EVOO, coconut milk, and mixed nuts.

Thanks for clearing up the quinoa option. I am curious as to what are some ways you cook the potatoes? I usually just chop em up and drizzle EVOO on top and bake them. Would love to hear some other ways to add them tomy meals other then baked or mashed.

I try and lift the same way. I believe in the olympic / athlethic type of lifting rather then the bodybuilding approach. Not that there is anything wrong with it, it is just a personal preference of mine. I try to avoid all movements that would involve me sitting or using a machine. I try and do almost everything standing up. I recently finished reading Power Training by Dos Medios and am about to start this other book about functional training. I see from your log you follow Defrancos WS4SB. I will prolly give that program a shot after my 531 but am gonna stick with 531 for a little longer to give it a fair chance. It is soupposed to be great for strength building. Do you read any of Jim Smiths writings?

[JudoJosh]

Incase anyone doesnt know who Joe Defranco is, here is a compliation video of his gym

[AntonG42O]

wait...its the opposite, paleo is very keto friendly. the deficit in calories that used to be from carbs now come from fat, eggs/fish/steak/oils. paleo is the perfect diet for keto. keep carbs under 30 during the week and recarb on the weekends.

[Tomahawk88]

Incase anyone doesnt know who Joe Defranco is, here is a compliation video of his gym

Thank u def got me wanting to go lift now.

Sweet potato and banana mash. Basically mash a banana into a sweet potato with a fork. Heat both of them 1st of course. About a minute in the the microwave for the banana and depends on the sweet potato. I usually use half a sweet potato and a whole banana.

[JudoJosh]

Thank u def got me wanting to go lift now.

Sweet potato and banana mash. Basically mash a banana into a sweet potato with a fork. Heat both of them 1st of course. About a minute in the the microwave for the banana and depends on the sweet potato. I usually use half a sweet potato and a whole banana.

No butter? Just a banana and sweet potato and that's all? I'm def gonna give it a try

wait...its the opposite, paleo is very keto friendly. the deficit in calories that used to be from carbs now come from fat, eggs/fish/steak/oils. paleo is the perfect diet for keto. keep carbs under 30 during the week and recarb on the weekends.

I gues your right now that I really think about it but again I can't imagine going without fruit all week.

[HereToStudy]

Thank u def got me wanting to go lift now.

Sweet potato and banana mash. Basically mash a banana into a sweet potato with a fork. Heat both of them 1st of course. About a minute in the the microwave for the banana and depends on the sweet potato. I usually use half a sweet potato and a whole banana.

I actually grabbed some bananas yesterday specifically for this after you mentioned it in the food thread. Tonight is the night

[AntonG42O]

No butter? Just a banana and sweet potato and that's all? I'm def gonna give it a try


I gues your right now that I really think about it but again I can't imagine going without fruit all week.

you can eat a little bit, like 1 piece of fruit a day. i mean this is a diet for extreme fat loss. the body literally uses adipose tissue for energy. energy levels dip at first but this is super effective. i have a roomate who is about 5-10 and in the beginning of the summer he weighed 193. you know, skinny fat guy physique. by putting him on paleo and eventually a little bit of keto + 3 days a week of lifting, we got him down to 165 in 2 months. now hes got no love handles and looks pretty solid.

[Rodja]

Thanks for clearing up the quinoa option. I am curious as to what are some ways you cook the potatoes? I usually just chop em up and drizzle EVOO on top and bake them. Would love to hear some other ways to add them tomy meals other then baked or mashed.

I try and lift the same way. I believe in the olympic / athlethic type of lifting rather then the bodybuilding approach. Not that there is anything wrong with it, it is just a personal preference of mine. I try to avoid all movements that would involve me sitting or using a machine. I try and do almost everything standing up. I recently finished reading Power Training by Dos Medios and am about to start this other book about functional training. I see from your log you follow Defrancos WS4SB. I will prolly give that program a shot after my 531 but am gonna stick with 531 for a little longer to give it a fair chance. It is soupposed to be great for strength building. Do you read any of Jim Smiths writings?

I like the DeFranco method a tad better since it has more variety and room for tinkering. Plus, I am NOT a fan of singles for most lifts and stay in the 3-5 rep range for my max lift(s). One thing that I do use that come from PLing is the deload to rest the CNS and joints. Honestly, most of my training is an amalgam of concepts with a twist based on my MMA experience/emphasis.

[JudoJosh]

I actually grabbed some bananas yesterday specifically for this after you mentioned it in the food thread. Tonight is the night

Let us know how you like it. I don't have any sweet potaoes home now but I can run to the market and grabbed a couple sometime this week

you can eat a little bit, like 1 piece of fruit a day. i mean this is a diet for extreme fat loss. the body literally uses adipose tissue for energy. energy levels dip at first but this is super effective. i have a roomate who is about 5-10 and in the beginning of the summer he weighed 193. you know, skinny fat guy physique. by putting him on paleo and eventually a little bit of keto + 3 days a week of lifting, we got him down to 165 in 2 months. now hes got no love handles and looks pretty solid.

hmmmm.. maybe for a future hard cutting cycle I might give it a try. I just got the erase-tt2-oep stack from nutra that I was planning ro run in a couple months. I am now considering a paleo/CKD type diet. So during carb up days would I only limit myself to red potaoes, sweet potatoes, basmati rice, quiona and fruit as carb sources? Are there any other paleo friendly carbs out there?

I like the DeFranco method a tad better since it has more variety and room for tinkering. Plus, I am NOT a fan of singles for most lifts and stay in the 3-5 rep range for my max lift(s). One thing that I do use that come from PLing is the deload to rest the CNS and joints. Honestly, most of my training is an amalgam of concepts with a twist based on my MMA experience/emphasis.

The 1 in 531 isnt a true 1 rep and he talks against using your actual 1RM. The way Wendler lays it out is you take what you think your 1RM is and take some weight off of that and go for as many reps as you can then you enter the weight and reps into a formula to get your 1RM and then you take 90% of that number and use that as your 1RM, so it is slightly less then your actual 1RM. Then you base all your percentages off your new 1RM and he instructs that when you get to the 531 week on your last set, the 1, which is 90% of 90% of your true 1RM, you lift it was many times as possible not just once. The theory is that you dont have to lift at your heaviest to gain strength, you can work with less weight and still gain strength. So it isnt exactly a single. I remember reading in Defrancos site that he has been experimenting with incorporating the 531 methodology to his ME days and leaving the rest of the WS4SB program the same.

[HereToStudy]

I know me too. Just had another half of sweet potato and banana mash with a nice big steak mmmm

Banana mash? what is this you speak of? Is it like mashed potatoes but with bananas instead?

When I said I would try this, I did not lie. Put a bit of a twist on it:

Basically did it like a twice baked. Baked the sweet potato, cut off cap, scooped out inside. Put it into a bowl, with a warmed banana, added some cinammon, and a bit of cayenne (i love sweet meets spicey). Mixed it all together, put it back into the potato, and baked for another 10 minutes. **** is delicious!

[Tomahawk88]

Nice HTS I might have to try it like that too. How long did u cook it the 1st time?

[HereToStudy]

Nice HTS I might have to try it like that too. How long did u cook it the 1st time?

I usually bake a sweet potato for about an hour on a flat cookie sheet at about 400 degrees. It takes a hell of a long time, but I think the texture comes out alot better than when I am in a rush and microwave it.

In this case I baked it for about 55 minutes before adding the banana and rebaking for 10 minutes. I use a bit of microwave assistance to get the banana and sweet potato filling to blend well before readding it.

[Tomahawk88]

I usually bake a sweet potato for about an hour on a flat cookie sheet at about 400 degrees. It takes a hell of a long time, but I think the texture comes out alot better than when I am in a rush and microwave it.

In this case I baked it for about 55 minutes before adding the banana and rebaking for 10 minutes. I use a bit of microwave assistance to get the banana and sweet potato filling to blend well before readding it.

That might require more time than I would like. I like mine post workout. Although I could always have a shake, pop a swee potato in the oven, shower, and then start cooking whatever meat.

[JudoJosh]

When I said I would try this, I did not lie. Put a bit of a twist on it:

Basically did it like a twice baked. Baked the sweet potato, cut off cap, scooped out inside. Put it into a bowl, with a warmed banana, added some cinammon, and a bit of cayenne (i love sweet meets spicey). Mixed it all together, put it back into the potato, and baked for another 10 minutes. **** is delicious!

Mmmmm I am definetely trying this!!!

That might require more time than I would like. I like mine post workout. Although I could always have a shake, pop a swee potato in the oven, shower, and then start cooking whatever meat.

How long do you usually microwave the potato for?

[Tomahawk88]

Mmmmm I am definetely trying this!!!

How long do you usually microwave the potato for?

I hear u.

Like I said it depends on the size of the sweet potato. Usually 6-8 minutes r regular 1s but sometimes 10.

[JudoJosh]

So tomorow I am going to try the fasted training protocol as suggested by mulletsolider. Soupposed to be good for helping burn fat during the workout. And while speaking about fasting.. anyone ever try fasting in general? For a while I was 24 hour water fasting once a week. I had heard about it from an interview before with either Alywn Cosgrove or Vince Delmonte I think but basically they made a really good argument why fasting is good for just good general all around health and not just that but if you fast 1 day a week it will help with weight loss. Like how they say you need to cut 500 calories a week to loose a lb so if you are eating 2000 calories a day thats 14,000 calories a week and if you fast one day that week you will cut your weekly calorie down to 12,000. But to me this was just a perk, the health benefits of fasting is what really sold me on it.

[Rodja]

I've read the 5/3/1 template several times, but it's sole focus is increasing just a handful of lifts and lacks real athletic movements.

[JudoJosh]

I've read the 5/3/1 template several times, but it's sole focus is increasing just a handful of lifts and lacks real athletic movements.

Yea I agree it does put alot of emphasis on what it calls the 4 major lifts. This is my first time trying it. Since right now my goal is strength gain and I had read so many good reviews on the program in regards to strength gain I figured I will give it a shot. One thing I like is it gives you alot of options for your supplement lifts. The only lifts that are locked in are the main ones but the rest you can decide on your own. I try with my supplemental lifts to keep an athlethic mindset but I do see your point. I am about finished with this cycle of 531 and was gonna give it 2 more runs before I call it quits. Give the program a fair shot before I dismiss it.

[Army Guy]

ok I know this is yesterday's news, but that gym you posted looks SICK!!!! man what I wouldn't so in order to lift in a place like that!!!

[JudoJosh]

So yestarday I decided to start a 24hr water fast. I had no food past 1:00pm. I still took my prime but I took it with CLA or fish oil to help with absorption. I stayed up late studying and work up around 10 this morning. Upon waking up I immeadiately took 3 powerfull caps, 3 prime caps, 1 OEP cap, 2 scoops of jack3d and 2 CLA caps. 30 mins later for intra workout I sipped on 3 scoops of xtend. Immeadiately post workout 3 scoops whey. In about a hour I will have some eggs with pepper and some chopped up red potatoes.

Workout was:

Back Squat x5/x3/x1
Hyper extension 5x10
hack squats 5x10
Hanging leg raises 5x10
Went light jogging outside for about 10 mins

Overall thought of the faster training protocol, it was pretty fun. I didn't think I would have been able to power through my lifts with no food in me but I did. I think I am gonna be doing this type of training once a week when it fits my schedule. Hopefully it will help blast some fat away.

On another note the UPS guy came buy yestarday and dropped off a present from me. There was a site that had a sale on CLA and I got six 90ct bottles of CLA for $12!! So I will be adding CLA into my staples.

[JudoJosh]

FedEx just came by and dropped off my NP order!! I got me 2 tubs of DAA, 2 bottles of Erase, alpha-t2, titanium, OEP, and 2 6-bromo's!!! Pretty stoked! Gonna be trying out the alpha, oep, erase. daa stack in the near future. I amd ebating on weather it would benefit me to add in some DAA now or should I just leave what I got alone and continue on.. any thoughts/suggestions?

[JudoJosh]

My post workout meal

I went to make my eggs and red potatos and when I went into my pantry to get the potatos I noticed we did have some sweet potatos. So I opted to try this banana mash out instead. I hade some spinach and chicken with a bit of italian dressing and I made the banana mash and it was freaking delicious!!! I used half a sweet potato and a whole banana. This is definetely gonna be a regular in my diet from now on. Thanks tom!!!!!!!