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    How much forslean roughly is there in one pill of Recreate roughly? Just wondering because of the 50mg active that was used with success in the study(s) so I know before i consider buying it next year.

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    How much forslean roughly is there in one pill of Recreate roughly? Just wondering because of the 50mg active that was used with success in the study(s) so I know before i consider buying it next year.
    2 caps gives 25mgs
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    I love Jacked.......would it be okay to add OEP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheloz28 View Post
    I love Jacked.......would it be okay to add OEP?
    Yes, but start extremely low on each.
    Even 1 OxyElite Pro, 1/2 scoop Jack3d...
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    I have a question regarding the Rauwolscine (also known as Alpha-Yohimbine) in OEP.
    I've always heard that taking yohimbine anywhere near carbohydrates (or anything the stimulates insulin elevation) completely blunts it's effects. Is the same true for Rauwolscine as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by borobulker View Post
    Yes, but start extremely low on each.
    Even 1 OxyElite Pro, 1/2 scoop Jack3d...

    Sweet....this means my tub of Jacked will last me a longer.

    Cant wait till I start taking this stuff tomorrow
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    Thanks USP labs I just got my shipment.

    I'm currently using AP and was wondering if the below would be okay?

    8 a.m.
    1 OEP
    1 A.P

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    Meal 1
    Oatmeal/ 2 Tbs of PB

    9:30 a.m
    Pre workout Meal 2
    Lean Turkey Sandwich

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    1 scoop of Jacked
    2 scoops of Extend

    12:15 pm
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    2 scoops of protein
    3 scoops of Extend

    2:00
    1 AP
    1 OEP

    2:30 p.m
    Meal
    Chicken breast w/Brown Rice
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheloz28 View Post
    Thanks USP labs I just got my shipment.

    I'm currently using AP and was wondering if the below would be okay?

    8 a.m.
    1 OEP
    1 A.P

    8:30 a.m
    Meal 1
    Oatmeal/ 2 Tbs of PB

    9:30 a.m
    Pre workout Meal 2
    Lean Turkey Sandwich

    10:30 a.m
    1 scoop of Jacked
    2 scoops of Extend

    12:15 pm
    Post Workout
    2 scoops of protein
    3 scoops of Extend

    2:00
    1 AP
    1 OEP

    2:30 p.m
    Meal
    Chicken breast w/Brown Rice
    Yeah, I like the look of this...
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    I already asked about cla, but would it be wise to use this along with a cycle? Maybe an M-Drol(pulsed) H-Drol cutting cycle?
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    I usually wake up around 8 am and work out around 11 am. I take oep as soon as i wake up and do some light cardio. For my first meal, should i include carbohydrates to fuel the workout or keep carb intake low to keep insulin levels low? Also, would it be too soon to take the second oep dose before my workout? And when could i eat a complex carb-heavy meal post workout to replenish glycogen stores?
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    Thank You USP Labs

    I took my first dose(OEP) today at 8 am, had my scoop of Jacked at 10:30 a.m.
    My workout was awesome. I haven't felt this much focus/energy since the ephedrine days. This is saying a lot since I've tried many different Supplements like Venom,LR,Lipo 6,Tight,SX.

    My gym gets cold during the winter and we don't have a heater,so I usually wear: U*der Arm@r T, Cotton T-Shirt,Hoodie Sweater just to keep me warm. Well after my warm up today I quickly stripped off my sweater & T since I was getting so hot. This stuff is the real deal.

    Tomorrow is morning cardio (45mins).
    I usually wake up, have a scoop of Jacked and go running.
    Would it be okay to take AP & OEP when I get home & than eat 30 mins later?
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    cheers for the reply strat...

    I'll give OEP a run solo then, and depending what I get out of it I'll consider doing an OEP/Recreate stack for the summer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheloz28 View Post
    Thank You USP Labs

    I took my first dose(OEP) today at 8 am, had my scoop of Jacked at 10:30 a.m.
    My workout was awesome. I haven't felt this much focus/energy since the ephedrine days. This is saying a lot since I've tried many different Supplements like Venom,LR,Lipo 6,Tight,SX.

    My gym gets cold during the winter and we don't have a heater,so I usually wear: U*der Arm@r T, Cotton T-Shirt,Hoodie Sweater just to keep me warm. Well after my warm up today I quickly stripped off my sweater & T since I was getting so hot. This stuff is the real deal.

    Tomorrow is morning cardio (45mins).
    I usually wake up, have a scoop of Jacked and go running.



    Thank you for the feedback!


    Would it be okay to take AP & OEP when I get home & than eat 30 mins later?
    Should be fine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatmanwalking View Post
    I usually wake up around 8 am and work out around 11 am. I take oep as soon as i wake up and do some light cardio. For my first meal, should i include carbohydrates to fuel the workout or keep carb intake low to keep insulin levels low? Also, would it be too soon to take the second oep dose before my workout? And when could i eat a complex carb-heavy meal post workout to replenish glycogen stores?
    In my personal opinion; Yes, I would eat a carb meal pre-training. Yes, dose OxyE at least 6-8 hours after the first dose. Eat your post-workout meal, post-workout...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheloz28 View Post
    Thank You USP Labs

    I took my first dose(OEP) today at 8 am, had my scoop of Jacked at 10:30 a.m.
    My workout was awesome. I haven't felt this much focus/energy since the ephedrine days. This is saying a lot since I've tried many different Supplements like Venom,LR,Lipo 6,Tight,SX.

    My gym gets cold during the winter and we don't have a heater,so I usually wear: U*der Arm@r T, Cotton T-Shirt,Hoodie Sweater just to keep me warm. Well after my warm up today I quickly stripped off my sweater & T since I was getting so hot. This stuff is the real deal.

    Tomorrow is morning cardio (45mins).
    I usually wake up, have a scoop of Jacked and go running.
    Would it be okay to take AP & OEP when I get home & than eat 30 mins later?
    i've read people have awesome results with AP before fasted cardio.

    I would definitely try taking OEP and AP before cardio and just eat immediately when you get done. I think aminos are suggested pre and during cardio, but i've done it without and seen no catabolism
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    started my OEP,

    would you recommend a 6 days on 1 off protocol, or 5 on 2 off? or just straight daily?

    i have 2 bottles but thinking of cycling a 1 month supply and then taking the other bottles a couple of months later on. do you think that is a good idea? or would you do 2 months straight instead?
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    7 days a week...

    recommended dose is 3 a day, but for the most part i think people are doing 1 AM and 1 PM.
    they are pretty powerful, and you WILL see results.
    I would say run both bottles back to back, at 2 a day it should be 90 days worth.
    Definitely run some sort of carb/calorie cycling with it to keep the metabolism revving
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    Is GNC gonna have this? I got a gift card for Christmas
    They already have it.
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    How about for people in the military who get tested for drugs randomly. Just curious to see what everyone thinks about geranium showing up as an amphetamine on the drug test.

    Ive heard yes and ive heard no.

    Thanks guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    started my OEP,

    would you recommend a 6 days on 1 off protocol, or 5 on 2 off? or just straight daily?...
    As already stated, take OEP daily for the period of your cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    How about for people in the military who get tested for drugs randomly. Just curious to see what everyone thinks about geranium showing up as an amphetamine on the drug test.

    Ive heard yes and ive heard no.

    Thanks guys
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    Jack3d and Amphetamines
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    How about for people in the military who get tested for drugs randomly. Just curious to see what everyone thinks about geranium showing up as an amphetamine on the drug test.

    Ive heard yes and ive heard no.

    Thanks guys
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    been doing some PubMed research:

    Cirsium Oligophyllum:
    Body fat mass reduction and up-regulation of uncoupling protein by novel lipolysis-promoting plant extract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    How about for people in the military who get tested for drugs randomly. Just curious to see what everyone thinks about geranium showing up as an amphetamine on the drug test.

    Ive heard yes and ive heard no.

    Thanks guys
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    Wow a little harsh are we? Sorry i didnt see the links and read them first. I guess im "to lazy?". Ive been home on leave and very busy and havnt been frequenting the boards as much as i like as i have a newborn that ive been blessed with. Anyways..

    On a better note, i bought a couple bottles of OEP along with recreate and some AP. Good stuff so far with the OEP and Recreate, seem pretty synergistic if you ask me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedo View Post
    I have a question regarding the Rauwolscine (also known as Alpha-Yohimbine) in OEP.
    I've always heard that taking yohimbine anywhere near carbohydrates (or anything the stimulates insulin elevation) completely blunts it's effects. Is the same true for Rauwolscine as well?
    Same issue applies. According to Dsade, you can have a carb meal around an hour after taking it if need be
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    Wow a little harsh are we? Sorry i didnt see the links and read them first. I guess im "to lazy?". Ive been home on leave and very busy and havnt been frequenting the boards as much as i like as i have a newborn that ive been blessed with. Anyways..
    Don't take it personally... Just seems there are some people bent on continuing to hype this rumour. Think he's just a bit frustrated from saying it the thousandth time haha.

    Good luck with OEP, Recreate and AP. Loved AP and recreate, can't wait to add OEP to the mix!
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    The dosing / meal plan that came with OEP assumes one is a PM trainer. For an AM trainer, would having breakfast (pre-workout meal), taking 2 OEP one hour after breakfast, then working out ~30 minutes after that be the best method? Given the above post about carbs and OEP, would having most of your carbs for the day in the breakfast meal then taking OEP one hour later reduce the product's effectiveness?
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    Quote Originally Posted by danieltx13 View Post
    The dosing / meal plan that came with OEP assumes one is a PM trainer. For an AM trainer, would having breakfast (pre-workout meal), taking 2 OEP one hour after breakfast, then working out ~30 minutes after that be the best method? Given the above post about carbs and OEP, would having most of your carbs for the day in the breakfast meal then taking OEP one hour later reduce the product's effectiveness?
    I would dose oep and lift fasted and eat directly after.

    Either that or take oep and have breakfast 30 mins later and then train
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    Quote Originally Posted by carpee View Post
    I would dose oep and lift fasted and eat directly after.

    Either that or take oep and have breakfast 30 mins later and then train
    The guy a few posts above said you needed to wait at least an hour to eat a carb meal after OEP. We need some USP people in here to address this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danieltx13 View Post
    The guy a few posts above said you needed to wait at least an hour to eat a carb meal after OEP. We need some USP people in here to address this.
    False, he said he wanted to take it an hour after a meal not before.

    Dosing is 30-45 minutes prior to a meal
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    Why isn't yohimbe listed as an ingredient ?
    It IS in there.
    Yohimbe gives me(and many other's) a terrible cracked out,non functionable buzz that is unmistakeable and most certainly unhealthy!
    I will contacting USP for a refund or exchange for Recreate maybe.
    I would hope they stand up and honor my request.
    Now I rarely post in any forum so if you don't believe me that's cool and I understand,
    .......but I wanted anybody who does not tolerate yohimbe to know that it is in there.
    You would think a supplement maker would be responsible enough to list an ingredient that some buyers cannot tolerate.
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    they did list the appropiate ingredient, and this isnt regular yohimbine so if they put down yohimbine it will be deceiving anyways since its not traditional yohimbine.

    also, this doesnt give you the same side effect either, but i wont be the one to tell you to try it.
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    i love the fat burning properties of ECA but i love the appetite suppressing ability of the OEP... =( i can't have best of both worlds, ahhh!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by picazzo View Post
    Why isn't yohimbe listed as an ingredient ?
    It IS in there.
    Yohimbe gives me(and many other's) a terrible cracked out,non functionable buzz that is unmistakeable and most certainly unhealthy!
    I will contacting USP for a refund or exchange for Recreate maybe.
    I would hope they stand up and honor my request.
    Now I rarely post in any forum so if you don't believe me that's cool and I understand,
    .......but I wanted anybody who does not tolerate yohimbe to know that it is in there.
    You would think a supplement maker would be responsible enough to list an ingredient that some buyers cannot tolerate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bLacKjAck. View Post
    In case your too lazy to read links, NO! Your good.
    Don't be a jackass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    they did list the appropiate ingredient, and this isnt regular yohimbine so if they put down yohimbine it will be deceiving anyways since its not traditional yohimbine.

    also, this doesnt give you the same side effect either, but i wont be the one to tell you to try it.
    Maybe I wasn't clear...I did try it .Twice, both times with the reaction that is unmistakeable as a yohimbe reaction. Again I'm not trying to be a **** as I realize I am in the minority....but for people who react this way to yohimbe it is a terrible feeling and most of us scrutinize ingredients very closely to avoid it.
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    I have been taking OEP for 18 days, I have been taking 2 in the morning and 1 in the afternoon. I have lost an ample amount of fat and love the feeling I get from this product. My question is, can I stay at my current dose and use Recreate? At what dose would you recommend for Recreate? Thanks for your help.
  

  
 

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