OxyELITE Pro Q&A
- 12-19-2009, 01:02 AM
- 12-19-2009, 07:58 AM
As it turns out, forskolin exerts its thermogenic and lipolytic actions via cAMP activation in adipocytes. It does this completely independently of epinephrine and stimulants. By activating cAMP in adipocytes, forkolin activates an enzyme, hormone-sensitive lipase (HSL), that modulates the liberation of fatty acids from adipocytes to be metabolized for energy. This induces significant lipolytic action.
Furthermore, forskolin stimulates thyroid function, not only by enhancing the production of the thyroid hormones, T4 and T3, but also by promoting the conversion of T4 to the more bioactive T3. Forskolin does this via modulation of the action of the enzyme type II deiodinase. This enhanced thyroid activity ultimately leads to enhanced thermogenic action.
Relatedly, forskolin also exerts cAMP-dependent anti-catabolic action. In particular, muscle-tissue breakdown is modulated by calpains. These are calcium-dependent enzymes that are themselves inhibited by agents known as calpastatins. Now, calpastatin activation is cAMP-dependent. Consequently, by activating cAMP, forskolin triggers calpain inhibition via calpastatin recruitment. This calpain inhibition ultimately leads to lean-tissue preservation, and an enhancement of the lean mass:fat mass ratio.
Enjoy your stack!
- 12-19-2009, 09:45 AM
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12-19-2009, 01:24 PM
Now, OEP was specifically designed as an extremely potent stim-based fat burner that is targeted at both generalized and localized annihilation of excess adipose tissue, based on a tight selection of ingredients with both unique and synergistic thermogenic and lipolytic pathways. In particular, OEP activates the so-called mitochondrial uncoupling protein - 1 (UCP-1), a protein that enhances mitochondrial cellular metabolism by directly stimulating the breakdown of stored fatty acids for the generation of energy. This action of fat breakdown and thermogenesis is exerted without stimulating the central nervous system, and occurs in the absence of exercise. So, by recruiting UCP-1, and increasing the resting metabolic rate, OEP supports thermogenesis and lipolysis. Related to this, OEP also supports elevated metabolic action via enhancing thyroid-hormone output [higher T4 and elevated T4-to-T3 conversion] for unprecedented fat loss. Further fat loss is ensured by inhibition of alpha2-adrenoceptor activity [the alpha2 receptor amply located in adipocytes is not only cAMP-inhibiting, but also strongly antilipolytic]; activation of beta-adrenergic receptors [especially beta3 adrenoceptors] that not only activate cAMP, but also induce significant lipolysis. [Please see my earlier post on the implication of cAMP activation for lipolysis and anti-catabolism]. Combine all these with OEP's induction of fat-loss via powerful targeting of subcutaneous fat deposits, and you have a highly specialized product with an unmatched efficacy for localized and generalized elimination of excess fat deposits.
All in all, Recreate and OEP can be used independently of each other for superior fat-burning, but nevertheless will make an extremely effective and synergistic fat-loss stack. **
12-19-2009, 01:28 PM
I had to type my posts on this page on my cell phone, so the whole thing looks quite "bunched up". Sorry!
12-19-2009, 01:35 PM
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12-19-2009, 04:14 PM
IF we have the forslean 95% extract from USP, is that something to combine w/ the recreate/oep stack? Or does recreate have enough forskolin?
12-19-2009, 04:31 PM
I just got back home and reviewed the literature that came with OEP a little while ago - two questions:
You guys advocate cutting back to four meals a day. It seems like the literature is more directed to people who just want to lose weight period than people who are cutting fat while still putting on muscle. If you were still aiming to put on lean mass, would it really be best to cut back on the meals and keep the carbs so low? I'm planning on running one of my bottles during a lean bulk, where I would be cycling carbs (averaging 180g a day - some days 220+, some days below 180 - I would normally bulk at 380g+ per day) and I'm just wondering if the fat burning would be as effective as cutting down to four meals a day with low carbs.
I would also like anybody's opinions on or experiences with stacking OEP and a product like TestoPro or Phyto-Testosterone. It seems like OEP and a test booster would be a great combo for lean mass and melting the fat off.
12-19-2009, 04:45 PM
doing my own thang!
12-19-2009, 05:16 PM
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12-19-2009, 05:37 PM
Would you recommend a CLA product stacked with OEP? If so, any suggestions(which brand)? Any other things to potentially stack other than your Recreate, etc. I ordered my OEP but it hasn`t arrived yet. I was hoping to start it tomorrow.
12-19-2009, 06:03 PM
12-19-2009, 08:19 PM
Strategicmove, thank you for your very informative responses. This is great information in this thread for sure! I am giving you reps once I figure it out. LOL I work with computers and love technology but don't post/use message boards enough to figure this sh!t out. I really only ever read them.
EDIT: HAHA, figured it out!
12-19-2009, 11:32 PM
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12-20-2009, 03:27 AM
Forskolin can be used both on a bulk and on a cut.
12-20-2009, 08:51 AM
It is too bad USP does not make Bolic anymore... tell me that would not be a nice stack to sell: Recreate/Bolic and OEP/Bolic.
12-20-2009, 11:14 AM
12-21-2009, 02:47 AM
12-21-2009, 03:57 AM
How did people dose bolic? With meals? Before meals? Pre-workout?
How much did people take a day? I see that USP recommended 50mg a day.
12-21-2009, 03:33 PM
12-21-2009, 05:33 PM
alright i was doing some research and thinking about stacking bronkaid or Primatene tabs with OEP recreate and eviscerate, i know its probably not a great idea but i'd like some open minded opinions. keep in mind 3 scoops of jacked and dominatp with 4 refresh gets me to the gym .. noted: i will not be dosing jacked only the latter. i just wanna know if anybody else would attempt this not asking if you think i should do it
12-21-2009, 07:51 PM
What is Ultima? Is it a new product from Usp labs? Im really only interested if its from them.
12-21-2009, 11:34 PM
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12-22-2009, 02:28 AM
12-22-2009, 03:43 AM
i didnt get a tracking number, but it says shipped on the website, is that normal, says shipped on the 17th.
12-22-2009, 10:08 AM
I see several people mentioned Bolic in this thread. I have 4 unopened packages of Bolic (and 1 opened package that's almost full) that expire at the end of December. I have no use for it so if you're interested in it, send me a PM. I posted it in the Supplement Auction section but haven't had any takers.
12-22-2009, 10:14 AM
Would it be safe to take lean xtreme with oxyelite pro?
12-22-2009, 10:18 AM
12-22-2009, 10:33 AM
Thanks for the quick reply. The reason I asked was because there was some talk on another forum about how a thyroid supplement should not be stacked with a stimulant. I understand that oep has a stim, and lean xtreme has an ingredient that will support thyroid function.