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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    That was more or less to prevent tolerance build-up, as there is only one mutually inclusive ingredient between the two. If I recall correctly, that particular suggestion was made to a member in the light of continually using each supplements.

    In short form, Anabolic Pump is far more suited for continual and gradual aesthetic improvement due to its potent anti-lipogenic activity, combined with fundamental AMPk mitigated MGU (muscle glucose uptake). The attenuation of lipid biosynthesis, accumulation and hypertrophy, coupled with muscle cell specific glucose uptake stimulation creates the perfect storm for tissue recomposition.

    On the other hand, P-Slin is a product created for acute and severe MGU to stimulate performance and recovery. While it can be used for aesthetic purposes, it does not mitigate AMPk, and therefore does not greatly increase mitochondrial use of FAs (well, once they're broken down to glycerols), and does not affect lipogenic transcription factors; in other words, it does not directly control the body's ability to synthesize and metabolize stored lipids.

    They both are very potent, very effective, and when used in conjunction (my favorite) can produce some amazing results in both respects!
    alright man thanks a lot. gonna try the ap alone for now and see how it works out


  2. Would your body to get used to the effects of AP once you have used it for a period of months and then 1) gradually lose its effectiveness over the three bottles? and 2) after you stop taking AP and resume your normal diet, would you store fat more easily?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by jman3967 View Post
    Would your body to get used to the effects of AP once you have used it for a period of months and then 1) gradually lose its effectiveness over the three bottles? and 2) after you stop taking AP and resume your normal diet, would you store fat more easily?
    As none of the clinical trials using either Berberine or Corosolic Acid/Tannins Complexes were of that length, I can only answer from personal experience. On that note, I have currently been utilizing Anabolic Pump since October '07, and still see the attenuation of adipose hypertrophy and synthesis (fat gain), as well as prominent vascularity and 'Food Pump' effects. Take that for what it's worth, as I realize it probably wasn't what you were looking for.

    In terms of the second question, you would receded back to 'normal' glucose and lipid metabolism, yes. There is no rebound effect to worry about, you simply return back to a normal metabolism.

  4. thanks, ive used two bottles over summer and have been very happy with results and wanted to continue with it. it seems like AP, besids the basics, is a supplement everyone should give a go

    do you think there is a specific type of supplement that would stack best with AP? i.e. test booster, creatine, x factor, ghrp etc... i would think a test booster might be best because you could take full advantage of you increased test with more nutrients comming in while still loosing bf? ...jmo

  5. Quote Originally Posted by jman3967 View Post
    do you think there is a specific type of supplement that would stack best with AP? i.e. test booster, creatine, x factor, ghrp etc... i would think a test booster might be best because you could take full advantage of you increased test with more nutrients comming in while still loosing bf? ...jmo
    Depending on your goals, i have seen great fat loss results while stacking USPlabs ReCreate with Anabolic-Pump. Keep in mind, this is in conjunction with other products such as NutraPlanet Bulk Fish Oil and BCAAs.
    \\ USPlabs Alpha Ginger //
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by jman3967 View Post
    thanks, ive used two bottles over summer and have been very happy with results and wanted to continue with it. it seems like AP, besids the basics, is a supplement everyone should give a go

    do you think there is a specific type of supplement that would stack best with AP? i.e. test booster, creatine, x factor, ghrp etc... i would think a test booster might be best because you could take full advantage of you increased test with more nutrients comming in while still loosing bf? ...jmo
    I think creatine is the best to stack with Anabolic Pump because they are both potent cell volumizers and both give good pumps. Furthermore, creatine is the most tested and proven supplement.

  7. I have a quick question for anyone who knows the answer...

    I'm trying to cut right now while preserving (or gaining) muscle. So naturally I decided to go with an AP/Recreate stack. I have heard rave reviews about these products individually and even better while they are stacked. The only thing I hear negatively (in my opinion) about the Recreate is in the energy and appetite suppressant categories. Now, I've been an ephedrine/stimulant junkie for a while now, and because I don't get much sleep, I rely on my stims to get me through my work day alert and focused. Is it a problem to take a low dose of ephedrine or hydroxycut in the mornings with these USP products? I just don't want to hurt my stack progress or my body.

    Other supps i take in case it matters or you have any advice include:
    -Fish Oil
    -Flax Seed Oil
    -Multi-Vitamin
    -Creatine (I have both ethel-ester and Pre-Alkalyn 1500. Which should I be using?)
    -Protein Shakes
    -BCAA's (approx 20g/day)
    -3300 Elite (hi-healths version of Nitrix by BSN)

  8. Quote Originally Posted by SimplyDraven View Post
    I have a quick question for anyone who knows the answer...

    I'm trying to cut right now while preserving (or gaining) muscle. So naturally I decided to go with an AP/Recreate stack. I have heard rave reviews about these products individually and even better while they are stacked. The only thing I hear negatively (in my opinion) about the Recreate is in the energy and appetite suppressant categories. Now, I've been an ephedrine/stimulant junkie for a while now, and because I don't get much sleep, I rely on my stims to get me through my work day alert and focused. Is it a problem to take a low dose of ephedrine or hydroxycut in the mornings with these USP products? I just don't want to hurt my stack progress or my body.

    Other supps i take in case it matters or you have any advice include:
    -Fish Oil
    -Flax Seed Oil
    -Multi-Vitamin
    -Creatine (I have both ethel-ester and Pre-Alkalyn 1500. Which should I be using?)
    -Protein Shakes
    -BCAA's (approx 20g/day)
    -3300 Elite (hi-healths version of Nitrix by BSN)
    SD,

    Many of the complaints from ReCreate, ironically, stem from users who have used the more stimulant-based ECA stack. I say ironic, as such a stack, while effective, is often counterproductive in the context of fat loss. Sleep is the greatest aid to both muscle preservation and fat loss - beyond what any supplement may contribute. Keeping that in mind, we deliberately designed ReCreate to supersede these adverse effects. In my opinion, I would avoid the EC/Hydroxycut, and enjoy the undisturbed sleep one may attain with ReCreate.

    In terms of focus and energy, ReCreate provides clean sustainable energy via endogenous beta-2 agonism. Rather than synthetically stimulate adrenergic (energy) receptors, ReCreate increases levels of the master adrenergic hormone and neurotransmitter - Norepinephrine. This produces very clean, very sustainable energy without the crash which comes adjacent with most fat-burners.

    Further, ReCreate increases levels of the active T3, and promotes conversion of the somewhat inactive T4. This obviously produces affect on nutrient metabolism, but significantly contributes to stable energy levels as well. I think if you were to cut out the more 'hardcore stimulants' for some time, you would actually realize your need for them was born out of adrenergic fatigue!

    This all creates a confluent effect on fat loss - both direct stimulation of lipolysis (fat loss) via the above mentioned mechanisms, but also by utilizing the body's already VERY potent fat loss mechanisms. Some may not realize it, but your body liberates stored triglycerides into Fatty Acids during the night. It is known as nightime lipolysis. Without adequate levels of sleep, this process is perturbed, and you miss out on all that fat loss! I guarantee you: Lay off the stimulants for awhile, and you will NOT be disappointed with ReCreate.

  9. Mullet,

    Thanks for such a thorough response. And I appreciate you dumbing it down for me. I've seen you get crazy with the scientific terms and I would swear you were speaking another language. I will follow your advice. Thanks again!

  10. Quote Originally Posted by SimplyDraven View Post
    Mullet,

    Thanks for such a thorough response. And I appreciate you dumbing it down for me. I've seen you get crazy with the scientific terms and I would swear you were speaking another language. I will follow your advice. Thanks again!
    No problem man. If you ever have any quick queries, I have this thread available:

    Quick Question Thread - Throw 'Em Up!!

  11. mullet your are the einstein of AM hah... the only 'stimulant' that i havent seen any negative sides from is green tea extact. it has a wealth of benefits including its natural caffeine. take ~500mg(find out what works for you) before your workout and youll be good to go. for me personaly i can even take it before my workouts at night and sleep great, everyone is different though

  12. Is anybody using anabolic pump just once a day? What do you think?

  13. Mullet or Jacob. I know people talk'd about it but has anyone used a blood glucose meter with AP? If not I'll be doing some experiments next week and would throw this into the mix. I just got me a blood glucose meter
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Mullet or Jacob. I know people talk'd about it but has anyone used a blood glucose meter with AP? If not I'll be doing some experiments next week and would throw this into the mix. I just got me a blood glucose meter
    I will be doing the same thing soon.
    Please post results!
    \\ USPlabs Alpha Ginger //

  15. i have two opened bottles of ap both half full or more. tryin to get them off my hands..

  16. Quote Originally Posted by jman3967 View Post
    mullet your are the einstein of AM hah... the only 'stimulant' that i havent seen any negative sides from is green tea extact. it has a wealth of benefits including its natural caffeine. take ~500mg(find out what works for you) before your workout and youll be good to go. for me personaly i can even take it before my workouts at night and sleep great, everyone is different though
    I don't know about that.


  17. Just out of curiosity, why would you have opened two different bottles before finishing one? How many caps are we talking total?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Mullet or Jacob. I know people talk'd about it but has anyone used a blood glucose meter with AP? If not I'll be doing some experiments next week and would throw this into the mix. I just got me a blood glucose meter
    Somebody had, but I cannot recall ATM. I know EasyEJL used Ketostix and related that he remained in Ketosis while using AP + carbohydrates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Mullet or Jacob. I know people talk'd about it but has anyone used a blood glucose meter with AP? If not I'll be doing some experiments next week and would throw this into the mix. I just got me a blood glucose meter
    I really do not see blood glucose changing over the norm in a healthy adult. We are becoming more efficient in storing glucose in muscle cells not storing more of it in general(Liver, muscle, and fat cells).

    But if you have current problems with elevated Glucose, AP will lower it without a doubt in my mind.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    I really do not see blood glucose changing over the norm in a healthy adult. We are becoming more efficient in storing glucose in muscle cells not storing more of it in general(Liver, muscle, and fat cells).

    But if you have current problems with elevated Glucose, AP will lower it without a doubt in my mind.
    I dont think I do. I just have used anabolic pump many times in the past and love it and was just wondering if anyone has done this.

    I will try it with various foods for a few days then do the same test with anabolic pump implemented. Should be interesting. I'll try and video tape them so if the use of AP keeps them lowered vs. normal foods the haters can't hate.
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative

  21. I tried AP way back when it came out. I thought it was so/so. After reading the AP manual, looking at some info on the board, and remembering to take with LOTS of water, I ordered myself 4 bottles on sale.

    I just took my first dose several hours ago. I'm Reactive-I so I waited 30 min before eating my breakfast of Oats, Berries, Whey, Banana, and Milk/OJ. 15 min - 30 minutes after dosing I actually felt I had MORE ENERGY, but then started to feel a bit hypo so I took my shake. I'm feeling quite good still 4+ hours later, no GI issues to report. I do use digestive enzymes and GutHealth as staples though.

    I think this version with the extra 250mgs of actives (750mgs VS 500mgs) is working much better for me than the original. I had to take 2 of the original to get any symptoms of going hypo. I'm excited to keep going through all 4 bottles if I keep getting good results. I'm going to watch the mirror and clean up my diet more to make sure I get the most out of it. I'm initially much more impressed with this version.

    I'm intrigued as to why I felt more energy, especially mental energy after dosing. I usually have a permanent brain fog that lasts until lunch time most days. I'l post an update later on wether these effects continue as well as any recomp effects.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by saludable24 View Post
    I tried AP way back when it came out. I thought it was so/so. After reading the AP manual, looking at some info on the board, and remembering to take with LOTS of water, I ordered myself 4 bottles on sale.

    I just took my first dose several hours ago. I'm Reactive-I so I waited 30 min before eating my breakfast of Oats, Berries, Whey, Banana, and Milk/OJ. 15 min - 30 minutes after dosing I actually felt I had MORE ENERGY, but then started to feel a bit hypo so I took my shake. I'm feeling quite good still 4+ hours later, no GI issues to report. I do use digestive enzymes and GutHealth as staples though.

    I think this version with the extra 250mgs of actives (750mgs VS 500mgs) is working much better for me than the original. I had to take 2 of the original to get any symptoms of going hypo. I'm excited to keep going through all 4 bottles if I keep getting good results. I'm going to watch the mirror and clean up my diet more to make sure I get the most out of it. I'm initially much more impressed with this version.

    I'm intrigued as to why I felt more energy, especially mental energy after dosing. I usually have a permanent brain fog that lasts until lunch time most days. I'l post an update later on wether these effects continue as well as any recomp effects.
    Great initiative on reading the manual and info in order to customize a dosing scheme!


  23. Quote Originally Posted by Jackeddrummer View Post
    i have two opened bottles of ap both half full or more. tryin to get them off my hands..
    Throw them up in the Supplement Auction portion of the site, i am sure you could get them off pretty easily...
    \\ USPlabs Alpha Ginger //

  24. Ok so going hypo is a good thing?

  25. Quote Originally Posted by xfiles View Post
    Ok so going hypo is a good thing?
    No; you do not want to go hypo. If you go hypo, you will want to consume more carbohydrates to maintain homeostasis.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by dexterium View Post
    No; you do not want to go hypo. If you go hypo, you will want to consume more carbohydrates to maintain homeostasis.
    Exactly. You don't want to get Hypo. I just used it as a reference comparing feelings from old batch and new. I could take 1 of the original 500mg APs and not get hypo even if I didn't eat period. I would get symptoms of going hypo after not eating for 30 min only when taking 2 pills of the old. This time with the new batch of 750mg I began to feel hypo at 30 min after only 1 pill.

    Again, going Hypo was just a reference point for me to judge the effectivess of AP.

    Reference the AP manual for dosing sugguestions and expectations. Per the manual I waited for the 30-45 minute window after dosing to take my shake instead of the normal 15 minutes because of my body's reaction to, or processing of carbohydrates. Once I started to feel a little hypo right at 30 min I started downing my shake.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by saludable24 View Post
    Exactly. You don't want to get Hypo. I just used it as a reference comparing feelings from old batch and new. I could take 1 of the original 500mg APs and not get hypo even if I didn't eat period. I would get symptoms of going hypo after not eating for 30 min only when taking 2 pills of the old. This time with the new batch of 750mg I began to feel hypo at 30 min after only 1 pill.

    Again, going Hypo was just a reference point for me to judge the effectivess of AP.

    Reference the AP manual for dosing sugguestions and expectations. Per the manual I waited for the 30-45 minute window after dosing to take my shake instead of the normal 15 minutes because of my body's reaction to, or processing of carbohydrates. Once I started to feel a little hypo right at 30 min I started downing my shake.
    Very good post...
    \\ USPlabs Alpha Ginger //

  28. Sounds like to much work. Plus I don't want to mess with my insulin anyway. I think I'm going to pass. Thanks guys...

  29. Quote Originally Posted by xfiles View Post
    Sounds like to much work. Plus I don't want to mess with my insulin anyway. I think I'm going to pass. Thanks guys...
    Well, I understand and appreciate your concern, but the little work involved with maximizing AP's potential is a small price to pay for literally altering the way your body uses energy. In fact, Anabolic Pump works independently of Insulin via energy modulating mechanisms; it changes the way your body uses fuel for the better. In terms of effect on Insulin, it will lead to an aggregate decrease in Serum Insulin which is a good, healthy thing occurrence.

    Keep in mind that all goals require the necessary work to achieve them. Despite our culture of instant gratification, all things worth possessing are products of passion and dedication; the work involved with Anabolic Pump is merely a small part of the larger passion for fitness as a whole. Spending a small portion of your day intuitively dosing a product vs., completely altering the manner in which your body uses energy seems like a simple comparison to make.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Well, I understand and appreciate your concern, but the little work involved with maximizing AP's potential is a small price to pay for literally altering the way your body uses energy. In fact, Anabolic Pump works independently of Insulin via energy modulating mechanisms; it changes the way your body uses fuel for the better. In terms of effect on Insulin, it will lead to an aggregate decrease in Serum Insulin which is a good, healthy thing occurrence.

    Keep in mind that all goals require the necessary work to achieve them. Despite our culture of instant gratification, all things worth possessing are products of passion and dedication; the work involved with Anabolic Pump is merely a small part of the larger passion for fitness as a whole. Spending a small portion of your day intuitively dosing a product vs., completely altering the manner in which your body uses energy seems like a simple comparison to make.
    Simple? Yes, Until you find out it gives you diabetes in 5 years....
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