Anabolic Pump I love you....
- 07-31-2008, 12:31 AM
- 08-01-2008, 11:44 AM
Would your body to get used to the effects of AP once you have used it for a period of months and then 1) gradually lose its effectiveness over the three bottles? and 2) after you stop taking AP and resume your normal diet, would you store fat more easily?
08-01-2008, 11:59 AM
In terms of the second question, you would receded back to 'normal' glucose and lipid metabolism, yes. There is no rebound effect to worry about, you simply return back to a normal metabolism.
08-01-2008, 04:04 PM
thanks, ive used two bottles over summer and have been very happy with results and wanted to continue with it. it seems like AP, besids the basics, is a supplement everyone should give a go
do you think there is a specific type of supplement that would stack best with AP? i.e. test booster, creatine, x factor, ghrp etc... i would think a test booster might be best because you could take full advantage of you increased test with more nutrients comming in while still loosing bf? ...jmo
08-01-2008, 04:24 PM
08-01-2008, 04:30 PM
08-01-2008, 04:51 PM
I have a quick question for anyone who knows the answer...
I'm trying to cut right now while preserving (or gaining) muscle. So naturally I decided to go with an AP/Recreate stack. I have heard rave reviews about these products individually and even better while they are stacked. The only thing I hear negatively (in my opinion) about the Recreate is in the energy and appetite suppressant categories. Now, I've been an ephedrine/stimulant junkie for a while now, and because I don't get much sleep, I rely on my stims to get me through my work day alert and focused. Is it a problem to take a low dose of ephedrine or hydroxycut in the mornings with these USP products? I just don't want to hurt my stack progress or my body.
Other supps i take in case it matters or you have any advice include:
-Flax Seed Oil
-Creatine (I have both ethel-ester and Pre-Alkalyn 1500. Which should I be using?)
-BCAA's (approx 20g/day)
-3300 Elite (hi-healths version of Nitrix by BSN)
08-01-2008, 07:32 PM
Many of the complaints from ReCreate, ironically, stem from users who have used the more stimulant-based ECA stack. I say ironic, as such a stack, while effective, is often counterproductive in the context of fat loss. Sleep is the greatest aid to both muscle preservation and fat loss - beyond what any supplement may contribute. Keeping that in mind, we deliberately designed ReCreate to supersede these adverse effects. In my opinion, I would avoid the EC/Hydroxycut, and enjoy the undisturbed sleep one may attain with ReCreate.
In terms of focus and energy, ReCreate provides clean sustainable energy via endogenous beta-2 agonism. Rather than synthetically stimulate adrenergic (energy) receptors, ReCreate increases levels of the master adrenergic hormone and neurotransmitter - Norepinephrine. This produces very clean, very sustainable energy without the crash which comes adjacent with most fat-burners.
Further, ReCreate increases levels of the active T3, and promotes conversion of the somewhat inactive T4. This obviously produces affect on nutrient metabolism, but significantly contributes to stable energy levels as well. I think if you were to cut out the more 'hardcore stimulants' for some time, you would actually realize your need for them was born out of adrenergic fatigue!
This all creates a confluent effect on fat loss - both direct stimulation of lipolysis (fat loss) via the above mentioned mechanisms, but also by utilizing the body's already VERY potent fat loss mechanisms. Some may not realize it, but your body liberates stored triglycerides into Fatty Acids during the night. It is known as nightime lipolysis. Without adequate levels of sleep, this process is perturbed, and you miss out on all that fat loss! I guarantee you: Lay off the stimulants for awhile, and you will NOT be disappointed with ReCreate.
08-01-2008, 10:20 PM
Thanks for such a thorough response. And I appreciate you dumbing it down for me. I've seen you get crazy with the scientific terms and I would swear you were speaking another language. I will follow your advice. Thanks again!
08-01-2008, 10:55 PM
08-02-2008, 12:26 PM
mullet your are the einstein of AM hah... the only 'stimulant' that i havent seen any negative sides from is green tea extact. it has a wealth of benefits including its natural caffeine. take ~500mg(find out what works for you) before your workout and youll be good to go. for me personaly i can even take it before my workouts at night and sleep great, everyone is different though
08-02-2008, 12:56 PM
08-02-2008, 01:04 PM
Mullet or Jacob. I know people talk'd about it but has anyone used a blood glucose meter with AP? If not I'll be doing some experiments next week and would throw this into the mix. I just got me a blood glucose meter
Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative
08-02-2008, 01:18 PM
08-02-2008, 02:18 PM
08-02-2008, 02:32 PM
08-02-2008, 02:32 PM
Just out of curiosity, why would you have opened two different bottles before finishing one? How many caps are we talking total?
08-02-2008, 02:33 PM
08-02-2008, 02:48 PM
But if you have current problems with elevated Glucose, AP will lower it without a doubt in my mind.
08-02-2008, 02:56 PM
I will try it with various foods for a few days then do the same test with anabolic pump implemented. Should be interesting. I'll try and video tape them so if the use of AP keeps them lowered vs. normal foods the haters can't hate.
Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative
08-02-2008, 04:49 PM
I tried AP way back when it came out. I thought it was so/so. After reading the AP manual, looking at some info on the board, and remembering to take with LOTS of water, I ordered myself 4 bottles on sale.
I just took my first dose several hours ago. I'm Reactive-I so I waited 30 min before eating my breakfast of Oats, Berries, Whey, Banana, and Milk/OJ. 15 min - 30 minutes after dosing I actually felt I had MORE ENERGY, but then started to feel a bit hypo so I took my shake. I'm feeling quite good still 4+ hours later, no GI issues to report. I do use digestive enzymes and GutHealth as staples though.
I think this version with the extra 250mgs of actives (750mgs VS 500mgs) is working much better for me than the original. I had to take 2 of the original to get any symptoms of going hypo. I'm excited to keep going through all 4 bottles if I keep getting good results. I'm going to watch the mirror and clean up my diet more to make sure I get the most out of it. I'm initially much more impressed with this version.
I'm intrigued as to why I felt more energy, especially mental energy after dosing. I usually have a permanent brain fog that lasts until lunch time most days. I'l post an update later on wether these effects continue as well as any recomp effects.
08-02-2008, 05:15 PM
08-02-2008, 05:41 PM
08-02-2008, 08:25 PM
08-02-2008, 09:06 PM
08-02-2008, 10:51 PM
Again, going Hypo was just a reference point for me to judge the effectivess of AP.
Reference the AP manual for dosing sugguestions and expectations. Per the manual I waited for the 30-45 minute window after dosing to take my shake instead of the normal 15 minutes because of my body's reaction to, or processing of carbohydrates. Once I started to feel a little hypo right at 30 min I started downing my shake.
08-02-2008, 11:02 PM
08-03-2008, 12:47 AM
Sounds like to much work. Plus I don't want to mess with my insulin anyway. I think I'm going to pass. Thanks guys...
08-03-2008, 12:57 AM
Keep in mind that all goals require the necessary work to achieve them. Despite our culture of instant gratification, all things worth possessing are products of passion and dedication; the work involved with Anabolic Pump is merely a small part of the larger passion for fitness as a whole. Spending a small portion of your day intuitively dosing a product vs., completely altering the manner in which your body uses energy seems like a simple comparison to make.
08-03-2008, 02:42 PM
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