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    Activate Xtreme vs. Diesel Test Hardcore


    What do you think? I've read comparable reviews for both, but I havn't personally used either. If you have used one (or both), please do comment on your results.

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    I think both are good products. I'm gonna give Diesel Test Hardcore a try in my post cycle therapy in a few weeks(i'm gonna keep a log and give my feedback). I used the old Activate and liked it alot! Massfx by Anabolic Xtreme is another option.
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    The 2 products are like apples and oranges. DTHC is a test / free test booster, has libido, performance, and test mimitech properties, as well as estrogen and cortisol control.

    Act Extreme will free Test, help control Estrogen, and has test mimitec properties. Not a bad product at all either, but a more direct comparison would be Act Extreme vs. Trib Test Extreme.
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    I'm running DTHC (and Lean Xtreme) for PCT right now. Last PCT was Activate Xtreme and X-Lean.

    Personally, I'm liking the DTHC a little better. I will be formulating my thoughts on it for a mini-review in the next week or so, once I am closer to 3 weeks in.

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    I think activate xt have a more consistent ingredient profile.
    Is proven that some of the herbals (like tribulus) in the dthc don't work , it seems to me that is pointless companies put those ingredients in their products.
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    DTH was the best libido booster Ive ever used, with that said it didnt do a ton for muscle or strength gains.

    Havent tried ActX yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LatSpread View Post
    DTH was the best libido booster Ive ever used, with that said it didnt do a ton for muscle or strength gains.

    Havent tried ActX yet.
    guess it depends on dosing. dthc didnt do that much for the libido but cut fat and got stronger. great focus and aggression in the gym.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    guess it depends on dosing. dthc didnt do that much for the libido but cut fat and got stronger. great focus and aggression in the gym.
    I was only doing 3-4 a day, 5 was the most I ever took in one day.

    My libido was actually best on the lower dose of 3/day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LatSpread View Post
    I was only doing 3-4 a day, 5 was the most I ever took in one day.

    My libido was actually best on the lower dose of 3/day.
    thats what most people report. i been married to same woman for 21 years, was'nt that concerned about increased libido,haha. i have used both of the supps in this poll and dthc definately worked best for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    thats what most people report. i been married to same woman for 21 years, was'nt that concerned about increased libido,haha.



    Something to look forward too, I guess...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xodus View Post



    Something to look forward too, I guess...
    hey, i read your review. seems like you liked the dthc. btw i reacted well to lean extreme too. did you use the 2.0 version or the original?
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    ahhh DTH doesnt contain trib anymore I think?

    they took it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    hey, i read your review. seems like you liked the dthc. btw i reacted well to lean extreme too. did you use the 2.0 version or the original?
    2.0 version. Good Stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post
    ahhh DTH doesnt contain trib anymore I think?

    they took it out.
    what the heck are you talking about. better recheck that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    what the heck are you talking about. better recheck that.
    open your eyes mate.

    Tell me where TRIB is listed..

    Btw the HORNY GOAT WEED is 40% now also.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post
    open your eyes mate.

    Tell me where TRIB is listed..

    Btw the HORNY GOAT WEED is 40% now also.


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    strange in bb the label of the product still contains tribulus
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    i got a bottle in front of me now of diesel test hardcore, it says on the label in the propriety blend , 6th ingredient down= bulgarian tribulas (min 20% protodioscin)
    im starting om the deisel hardcore 2morow:bruce3:
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    I think you have old bottles.

    Chuck isnt around to confirm either? odd
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post
    I think you have old bottles.

    Chuck isnt around to confirm either? odd
    wow, cant believe chuck would drop the trib. oh well, guess i have to pick up some of the new stuff. good catch, adelv.
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    ok, chuck's thread lists ingredients for new dthc and bulg trib is listed number 6.
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    I saw in muscular development magazine that there are studies that prove that tribulus is useless to humans, no increase in LH and as consequence no increase in test ...
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    i have only used standard Activate so i can't compare them. Activate worked well and i usually got a strength bump from it.

    I love DTH all my friends that have tried it do as well. Works awesome for PCT and i did a log on that when it first came out. Actually got stronger during PCT than during the 6 week halodrol cycle.
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    Think I remember a thread where Chuck stated he dropped the trib so that he could increase other ingredients that are more effective.
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    wheres chuck? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post
    wheres chuck? lol
    GET DIESEL info....stacks and reviews - Page 27 - Bodybuilding.com Forums

    your welcome , and yes both version have trib, nutraplanet has it wrong

    post 748 btw and the second label is the version coming out in january
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    Quote Originally Posted by nunes View Post
    I saw in muscular development magazine that there are studies that prove that tribulus is useless to humans, no increase in LH and as consequence no increase in test ...
    i am going to go out on a limb and say you have never actually tried dthc, just basing this on theory. i wonder how many people who voted in this poll have tried each of the products. i have and dthc got my vote. btw there is a lot of conflicting reports about trib, quality of trib involved in testing and amount given for dosing. i personally like it, but find it much more effective when combined with aveena sativa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i am going to go out on a limb and say you have never actually tried dthc, just basing this on theory. i wonder how many people who voted in this poll have tried each of the products. i have and dthc got my vote. btw there is a lot of conflicting reports about trib, quality of trib involved in testing and amount given for dosing. i personally like it, but find it much more effective when combined with aveena sativa.
    Point!

    Ive used TWIN LABS trib and found NOTHING.. but in an aussie product with trib and avena, I found it gave me an extra 5-10%!

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    Quote Originally Posted by saludable24 View Post
    The 2 products are like apples and oranges. DTHC is a test / free test booster, has libido, performance, and test mimitech properties, as well as estrogen and cortisol control.

    Act Extreme will free Test, help control Estrogen, and has test mimitec properties. Not a bad product at all either, but a more direct comparison would be Act Extreme vs. Trib Test Extreme.
    thats about 100% true. Except TTE doesnt have an effect on estrogen like AX and DTH is said to have, but AX and TTE are not multi-dem. like DTH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post
    ahhh DTH doesnt contain trib anymore I think?

    they took it out.
    yes it does.
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    There are multiple studies showing Tribulus to be worthless. Comparing DTH to ACTX is like comparing Viagra with testosterone cyp. One is great for the sex drive and the other is great for adding muscle and strength.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Designer Supps View Post
    There are multiple studies showing Tribulus to be worthless. Comparing DTH to ACTX is like comparing Viagra with testosterone cyp. One is great for the sex drive and the other is great for adding muscle and strength.
    DTH is an EFFECTIVE test booster that has tribulus in it. We have been over this at bb.com. There is an ENTIRE thread at bb.com that shows individuals with no affiliation to GET DIESEL who used DT and DTH over the years since it came out in 2005 with hormone test results before and after use showing increases in total test, free test, with reductions in cortisol, prolactin and estrodiol.

    You can search DIESEL TEST here at AM and see real world results and real world gains. DT just happens to be an effective test booster AND libido booster. Sht, Trib Test Extreme is on the level of ACTX, ACTX isn’t on the level as DTH.

    When I see a thread with several people using ACTX and getting hormone test done showing it shows increases in total and free test then make those BS comments.

    post cycle therapy the herbal product of choice for getting their HTPA back on track for many people at AM is DTH because it works over and over. Not because GET DIESEL reps pimp it or because they have to stack it with a million other products for results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Designer Supps View Post
    There are multiple studies showing Tribulus to be worthless. Comparing DTH to ACTX is like comparing Viagra with testosterone cyp. One is great for the sex drive and the other is great for adding muscle and strength.
    Viagra isnt sold for sex drive and has no effect on sex drive......know what your talking about before talking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Designer Supps View Post
    There are multiple studies showing Tribulus to be worthless. Comparing DTH to ACTX is like comparing Viagra with testosterone cyp. One is great for the sex drive and the other is great for adding muscle and strength.
    Don't take this personal, but your logic and analogies above suck at making a valid point here. Holes and incongruencies abound.

    Just because studies exist do not mean they represent the "truth" and final word on the matter. There are many variables, especially where herbs are grown as well as the extraction process, that can influence how "subjects respond. Dosing protocal and the amount dosed in studies also heavily influence the outcome of studies. The people doing the studies and their possible agendas should be considered as well. One could also give interpretations based soley on specific studies that only prove their point. Those who interpret the results to their own liking and then share their interpretations with us on the boards can also influence what is perceived as the "truth" of the matter.

    Studies are usefull, but should be taken with a grain of salt at times by comparing study results to real world feedback. Studies along with matching feedback from users would seem to be the ideal way to confirm or deny a company's product claims. I would say that Chuck's products and their results speak for themselves and soundly refute your statements.

    Several, including myself, experience very favorable responces to good tribulus products. Even Dinoii over on his forum has begun reinvestigating trib because of possitive feedback from users.

    Please don't get stuck trying to debunk someone else's product. Respect the competition and go keep inovating and making good products for us to buy.
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    dth isn't "bulk tribulus" anyway. DTH is actually a formulation that contains tribulus.....its dumb to say "oh that product in garrbage because tribulus is one of the ingredients in it."
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    I don't care if it was the trib or something else, but after several PCT's with Activate Xtreme and one with DTHC, I'm sticking with Chuck's stuff. That sh!t rocks. I wanted to nail just about anything that walked by. Can't really say the same for Activate, perhaps I didn't dose it right, but to call it and trib 'useless' is flat out wrong. Only other trib product that did me that good was BioTest's Alpha Male, which had me feeling good, almost euphoric and horny as hell.

    Not saying that DTHC didn't have me feeling 'good', but it was more alpha than great sense of well being from AM.


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    Chuck could you post the full ingredient list of the product here? Ive seen two different labels and have no idea which one is your most current.

    The point with tribulus is that there is no real world proof to show that it does anything for test production either. So to say that you cant always believe studies, in this case there isnt any info to show it works. Just saying I feel like having sex with anything that walks by is not real word proof that its a good compound.

    Im not saying DTH is a tribulus only product but since it does nothing for test production and you know this, why would you use a useless compound?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    dth isn't "bulk tribulus" anyway. DTH is actually a formulation that contains tribulus.....its dumb to say "oh that product in garrbage because tribulus is one of the ingredients in it."
    No one said the product was garbage, atleast I didnt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saludable24 View Post
    Don't take this personal, but your logic and analogies above suck at making a valid point here. Holes and incongruencies abound.

    Just because studies exist do not mean they represent the "truth" and final word on the matter. There are many variables, especially where herbs are grown as well as the extraction process, that can influence how "subjects respond. Dosing protocal and the amount dosed in studies also heavily influence the outcome of studies. The people doing the studies and their possible agendas should be considered as well. One could also give interpretations based soley on specific studies that only prove their point. Those who interpret the results to their own liking and then share their interpretations with us on the boards can also influence what is perceived as the "truth" of the matter.

    Studies are usefull, but should be taken with a grain of salt at times by comparing study results to real world feedback. Studies along with matching feedback from users would seem to be the ideal way to confirm or deny a company's product claims. I would say that Chuck's products and their results speak for themselves and soundly refute your statements.

    Several, including myself, experience very favorable responces to good tribulus products. Even Dinoii over on his forum has begun reinvestigating trib because of possitive feedback from users.

    Please don't get stuck trying to debunk someone else's product. Respect the competition and go keep inovating and making good products for us to buy.
    Can you post bloodwork done by anyone just using tribulus alone? That would be excellant real world results to show that the studies are being skewed or that real world results reveal something studies dont.

    Chuck's product doesnt refute anything Ive posted because as he has alreadly pointed out his product is not a tribulus only product. You cant claim that his product which gives results is the same thing as taking tribulus alone.

    Im not trying to debunk his product at all and I think that companies who innovate should be held in very high regard for their work. What ingredients are being used that are innovative?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Designer Supps View Post
    Chuck could you post the full ingredient list of the product here? Ive seen two different labels and have no idea which one is your most current.

    The point with tribulus is that there is no real world proof to show that it does anything for test production either. So to say that you cant always believe studies, in this case there isnt any info to show it works. Just saying I feel like having sex with anything that walks by is not real word proof that its a good compound.

    Im not saying DTH is a tribulus only product but since it does nothing for test production and you know this, why would you use a useless compound?


    I just have to say that I agree. Everytime I see a prouduct with trib in it, I just wonder why?. Sure maybe the other ingredients are worthwile but why put something like Trib in it and ruin it?. It just seems like a waste of money for the manufacturer and is just a "filler" product. Why not take that ingredient out and make the product cheaper to produce or put more of some other ingredient. I am just confused why anyone puts it in their product.
  

  
 

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