[AthleticXtreme]

We tested this about a year ago, some AM members were involved and we had really good results. Finally after a year of having supply issues it's launching. To celebrate, you get to buy it at our cost ( $9.79 up to 600 bottles) for the launch.Mass FX Black Pre-Sale > Athletic Xtreme Special OffersAnd when it hits 600 buys everyone will only be charged $7.79, so basically if we hit 600 we start paying people $2 to buy it.Check out the profile and get in on this. Just the 2 gram / day dose of Divanil (UDAX) makes it worth it, that stuff is expensive (nearly $150/kg).

<br>It's always been the main ingredient in Mass FX. Plus for all of you DAA fans you get a full dose of N-Methyl-aspartic acid. With 50x greater potency, this derivative of D-Aspartic acid increases testosterone and HGH. The dose in Mass FX Black is equivalent to taking a 4.5 grams dose of DAA. With Mass FX Black you get an entire non-prop blend, accurately dosed product that boosts testosterone, reduces estrogen, intensifies insulin, and naturally enriches your blood with more erythropoietin (EPO) for nine bucks, seven bucks if it hits 600.<br>

We don't do a lot of forum posting anymore, but we are still board sponsors and we thought this deal was good enough to post about.Thanks from Team AX.

[R1balla]

def buying it!

[kenny76]

Im in for 2 but do you have to use paypal?

[AthleticXtreme]

Im in for 2 but do you have to use paypal?

You have to click the paypal button, but you can use a credit card and just guest checkout. Our normal shopping cart would not allow group buys, so we had to go with the paypal pro option. You don't need a paypal account.

[kenny76]

done

[TheSaiyan]

Presale

So when are they getting sent out?! I'm in

[AthleticXtreme]

Presale

So when are they getting sent out?! I'm in

Estimated ship date is April 10th. Give or take a few days, everyone that participates will get updates as that date nears.

[OnionKnight]

i hate to fukin do this to you. but my too-good-to-be-true senses started tingling, and my conscience is making me ask this

isnt athletix xtreme the new name for anabolic xtreme? the company that got busted doing this?

http://www.justice.gov/usao/can/news...plea.press.pdf

[AthleticXtreme]

Isnt athletix xtreme the new name for anabolic xtreme? the company that got busted doing this?

http://www.justice.gov/usao/can/news...plea.press.pdf

Yes, same company. And yes, back in 2006 we sold pro-hormones, Superdrol, 6-Bromo, etc. Like many companies, we paid the price....and many companies still to come.

Since then we started a program with BSCG who tests every supplement that leaves the warehouse for anything illegal, contaminants, etc. BSCG is headed by Don Catlin the renowned doping specialist. We have done everything possible since selling pro-hormones to be a very transparent company. Massive testing, no prop blends, etc.

[TheSaiyan]

i hate to fukin do this to you. but my too-good-to-be-true senses started tingling, and my conscience is making me ask this

isnt athletix xtreme the new name for anabolic xtreme? the company that got busted doing this?

http://www.justice.gov/usao/can/news...plea.press.pdf

What's this have to do with anything? Lol

[AthleticXtreme]

It looks like a pretty good deal!. I don't know about N-Methyl-aspartic acid though. I'm taking a product with it in it now and I'm not that impressed. DAA products seem to work much better for me. Also 90mg a day of N-Methyl-aspartic acid seems like a little much.

That will be the equivalent dose of 3grams of DAA. If you are taking lower than that, might be the issue.

[AthleticXtreme]

The product I'm taking has 10mg of N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid and you take 1 cap 3 times a day. There is also another product that is straight N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid and contains 30mg. Your product has 3 times the amount of the other two products out that I know of that contain N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid. As of now I'm still interested in your product. Will probably purchase when funds allow. Not sure about that hefty dose though.

I see, yes they are different ingredients. Look similar but compare the nomenclature closely. I believe the ingredient you are talking about is 100x DAA, where our ingredient is 50x. The company we licensed it from is running clinicals and it really does look very promising, and this is the dose they are running the clinicals with.

[AthleticXtreme]

If they were the same ingredient yes. They are different. The ingredient we license is Methyl-EAA™ (N-Methyl-aspartic acid) aka NMA and not NMDA. That is the correct nomenclature and how we are required to label it. There is no D in this ingredient. It's not the same ingredient you are referencing.

Patent US5691377 - Use of N-methyl-aspartic acid for enhancing growth and altering body ... - Google Patents

[mr.cooper69]

Wait I'm confused. NMA's patented use is in chickens. The patent title lists use in any animal, but then all the claims of the patent are referring exclusively to chickens...it also refers to using anywhere from 100% pure NMLA to 100% pure NMDA and mixtures in between. What is the NMDA content?

Either way, great deal that I'll be getting in on. Just wanna make sure I ain't poisoning dem neurons

[AthleticXtreme]

Wait I'm confused. NMA's patented use is in chickens. The patent title lists use in any animal, but then all the claims of the patent are referring exclusively to chickens...it also refers to using anywhere from 100% pure NMLA to 100% pure NMDA and mixtures in between. What is the NMDA content?

Either way, great deal that I'll be getting in on. Just wanna make sure I ain't poisoning dem neurons

That was probably a bad citation to post up. Quick google search just trying to show it is different than NMDA. I'll get a doc over from the licensing company with the product specs for you.

They are pushing this dose as the safe recommended dose, and they are not a small company. We ran it with 30 people about a year ago and the blood work was really good. We plan on running 100 more post launch to look at complete panels as well. They are very specific that it is not an NMDA mix, according to them....making it a safer option. We are not going negative on NMDA as I have not seen anything negative, however the science does suggest it could happen. That is why we opted for licensing NMA.

[mr.cooper69]

Hmm, if NMA hits the NMDAR with 50% greater potency than DAA, then there is 45 mg per 4 caps. But if the dose is equal to 3g of DAA, then there is 30mg per 4 caps. Which is it?

Anyway, just bought two, you'll hit 600 no problem

[mr.cooper69]

That was probably a bad citation to post up. Quick google search just trying to show it is different than NMDA. I'll get a doc over from the licensing company with the product specs for you.

They are pushing this dose as the safe recommended dose, and they are not a small company. We ran it with 30 people about a year ago and the blood work was really good. We plan on running 100 more post launch to look at complete panels as well. They are very specific that it is not an NMDA mix, according to them....making it a safer option. We are not going negative on NMDA as I have not seen anything negative, however the science does suggest it could happen. That is why we opted for licensing NMA.

There really has to be some NMDA in there for the effects to exist...I'm more curious about the amt of NMDA per NMLA so I can titrate the dose accordingly. I initially assumed it was racemic I'm not sure if the patent allows alteration of the ratios

Also, for the urtica complex, is it standardized for any particular constituents (I know about the whole divanil issue) or full spectrum? 2g is a hefty dose so I'm trying to figure out if, based on the NMDA/urtica content, this bottle can actually be half-dosed and still exert nice effects.

Sorry for all the questions, the product looks great

[AthleticXtreme]

Hmm, if NMA hits the NMDAR with 50% greater potency than DAA, then there is 45 mg per 4 caps. But if the dose is equal to 3g of DAA, then there is 30mg per 4 caps. Which is it?Anyway, just bought two, you'll hit 600 no problem

I'll get you that info next week. Has something to do with how it converts or loses something in that process and it is over my head. I'll have to get the info from the company for you. I'll get it next week. What you see on the label above is what is in the product. It's what we have to put into the product by licensing it.

Appreciate the support.

[AthleticXtreme]

Also, for the urtica complex, is it standardized for any particular constituents (I know about the whole divanil issue) or full spectrum? 2g is a hefty dose so I'm trying to figure out if, based on the NMDA/urtica content, this bottle can actually be half-dosed and still exert nice effects.

It's the same 3,4 div we have been using since the beginning of Mass FX. The same found in Activate, it's all the same supplier. After the big 3,4div debate it's hard to tell the actual content. The manu claims it's high and the cost per bottle is over $8 for that one ingredient. The clinical we ran on Mass FX came out fantastic, so we know it works. I am a believer in it.

Half dosed you would be at 1 gram of 3,4div and that will have some effect. We would be interested in paying for blood work for anyone that wants to run a half dose and test it.

[mr.cooper69]

It's the same 3,4 div we have been using since the beginning of Mass FX. The same found in Activate, it's all the same supplier. After the big 3,4div debate it's hard to tell the actual content. The manu claims it's high and the cost per bottle is over $8 for that one ingredient. The clinical we ran on Mass FX came out fantastic, so we know it works. I am a believer in it.

Half dosed you would be at 1 gram of 3,4div and that will have some effect. We would be interested in paying for blood work for anyone that wants to run a half dose and test it.

Awesome, thanks for the info. This product definitely doesn't look cheap to manufacture, can't wait to give it a shot. I typically use DAA for the cognitive effects alone, which this should impart as well due to NMDA agonism

[AthleticXtreme]

Awesome, thanks for the info. This product definitely doesn't look cheap to manufacture, can't wait to give it a shot. I typically use DAA for the cognitive effects alone, which this should impart as well due to NMDA agonism

Interesting. What do you experience cognitive wise. I've never ran it, this would be my first DAA type product I've taken.

[mr.cooper69]

Interesting. What do you experience cognitive wise. I've never ran it, this would be my first DAA type product I've taken.

Improved memory memory recall and drive. As you know, NMDA agonism promotes short term memory formation, performance under stress, and general synaptic plasticity.

[AthleticXtreme]

Improved memory memory recall and drive. As you know, NMDA agonism promotes short term memory formation, performance under stress, and general synaptic plasticity.

Thanks for that, I did not know. I'll get back to you with the info you requested this week. Just as soon as I can get it from the licensing company. Might take a few days.

[steam]

it says flat rate $5 shipping, then why does it charge $10 if you get two?

flat rate should mean one price regardless of quantity...

[Raw Dog]

it says flat rate $5 shipping, then why does it charge $10 if you get two?

flat rate should mean one price regardless of quantity...

This, is this something that will be fixed or was it worded incorrectly?

[AthleticXtreme]

it says flat rate $5 shipping, then why does it charge $10 if you get two?

flat rate should mean one price regardless of quantity...

It's flat fate per item. The answer is because it costs more (but not double we agree), but with this dumb group buy software they don't let us use real time quotes.

So we could have set it for like $7.50 max for everyone or $5 for each. We thought most people would by one and wanted to be as fair as possible. One bottle shipped out of state will be on average $5-6 dollars. Check the shipping label when it arrives. Our estimate that is for two bottles it will be about $8 when it arrives. So we might make two bucks or break even if it hits 600 buys and you get it for 7 bucks.

Common guys, you can't complain about that. This is a great deal, you can break the cost down by the label.....that is what it costs to make it. We are not trying to screw you over with shipping, promise.

[mw1]

Is paypal the only method for checkout? Or is that for guest checkout?

[AthleticXtreme]

Is paypal the only method for checkout? Or is that for guest checkout?

You can use guest checkout, just pick the paypal option and then it will give you the option to pay with credit card. I don't like how awkward that is.

[Raw Dog]

Common guys, you can't complain about that. This is a great deal, you can break the cost down by the label.....that is what it costs to make it. We are not trying to screw you over with shipping, promise.

Absolutely, that isn't flat rate though. I'll more than likely be grabbing two regardless though, still a great deal

[AthleticXtreme]

Absolutely, that isn't flat rate though. I'll more than likely be grabbing two regardless though, still a great deal

Gotcha, they do call it flat rate shipping in the software, so that's what I called it. They called it flat rate per item. Regardless, we tried to average it and make it as low as possible without eating a ton of shipping costs.