Pes Erase questions
- 03-23-2013, 06:36 PM
Originally Posted by determinator
- 03-23-2013, 06:46 PM
I've ran Anabeta/Anabeta Elite numerous times and never has let me down. Does exactly what it states it will do.PEScience Representativehttp://www.pescience.com/insiderInstagram: kylebayne23
03-24-2013, 02:34 PM
03-25-2013, 02:16 AM
Ive read that. Only studies Ive seen on Anacyclus pyrethrum or Akarkara was on rats and results were negligible. Another thing to ponder, if the formula worked why change it by adding forskolin? Im not one to say u wont feel anything from it, Just heard too many different things Ive heard its a nutrient partitioner. Ive heard its a cortisol blocker. Heard it dhea. Heard its 7 oh. Heard is chamomille...im not sure what to think about it.Originally Posted by kbayne
03-25-2013, 02:17 AM
03-25-2013, 08:12 AM
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03-25-2013, 08:20 PM
Perfectly said! Two different products and some like both, while others prefer one over the other. Having both available gives options
03-25-2013, 09:29 PM
Forskolin is a great ingredient...why shouldn't the elite edition be a top-notch formula?
7-OH in anabeta elite is a DHEA derivative and cortisol blocker.
Anacyclus is spanish chamomile.
And forskolin you already touched on.
Do the research!
03-25-2013, 11:46 PM
03-31-2013, 11:27 PM
Originally Posted by mr.cooper69Regarding anacyclus or 'spanish chamomile' (main ingredient in og anabeta) Yes an effect stronger than testosterone is highly debatable. First the only study was done on rats and we all know ur test doesnt jump immediately after a pin even with test suspension it still takes time to raise blood levels. So how long after the pinned group a rats and chamomile fed group b rats before they derived a conclusion that it was "more anabolic than testosterone?" This is just one factor and again the study was done on rats. Were the rats tested in a way that results could have been mistaken for natural rat testosterone spikes. For instance humans have higher levels in morning or after sex etc. Theres too many variables to believe that claim even though the results of that particular study suggest it. Now with the revised new anabeta elite with added ingredients I question why ingredients were added if the ac pyrethium already did the trick well enough. Is it because the results from ac pyrethrum were also highly debatable? So theres my argument for that, for what its worth. My other question would be how *5-Adrosten-3ß,7ß-diol-17-one* in anabeta elite and Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione in erase differ? Im no chemist but the nomenclature seem awfully similar. Would it be safe to assume their mechanisms are similar to other 7-oxygented dhea compounds?Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
Ive done my research
04-01-2013, 01:25 AM
04-01-2013, 09:26 PM
Natural testosterone fluctuations do not account for 100-300% fluctuations in plasma levels lol
The whole point of a controlled trial, be it human or murine, is to control for these kinds of factors...
No offense but this is not research! The compound in Erase is very different from 7-b-oh btw
04-02-2013, 06:51 PM
We released AnaBeta Elite because we wanted to create an exclusive product for a retailer before releasing it to the market. You can also see this with Erase Pro. Additions were made to strengthen the formula. If the original versions weren't good enough we would have reformulated rather than releasing a superior version to sell alongside it.
With AnaBeta we made inclusions based on human data to further strengthen a very popular product.
There is no hidden conspiracy. We did not reformulate the product because the original didn't work. The original had 20~ beta testers on this forum (myself included) before it was brought to market. We were and still are very happy with the product.
Keep in mind that the product turnover for PES is so low that we do not release something we are not happy with.
04-02-2013, 07:00 PM
04-02-2013, 07:37 PM
I was very happy with both Anabeta and Anabeta elite and erase and erase pro I am not a rep and paid for each the original time I used them.
I have been and will continue to be a repeat buyer.
PES does not need to hype or advertise their products, the results speak for themselves.
04-02-2013, 08:10 PM
We appreciate the support and kind words ace. Thank youOriginally Posted by aceroni
04-02-2013, 08:20 PM
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04-05-2013, 12:12 AM
As for the whole anabeta thing Im not trying to act like its a conspiracy lmao I just know that logs can be biased and studies can be funded. I cant help being skeptical. and Ya it still seems a little far fetched that its more anabolic than testosterone suspension, but you know what, what the hell Ill prolly give it a try anyway down the road sometime just to cure my curiosity.Originally Posted by bdcc
04-05-2013, 12:22 AM
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04-05-2013, 05:14 AM
I was just clearing the air for any customers reading this. We brought out AnaBeta Elite so we could run an exclusive on a brand new product, not because we didn't think AnaBeta worked well on it's own.Now with the revised new anabeta elite with added ingredients I question why ingredients were added if the ac pyrethium already did the trick well enough. Is it because the results from ac pyrethrum were also highly debatable?
Logs can be biased, you are right. For what it's worth when I first ran AnaBeta-01 I told Josh I can take photos but I wasn't planning on it because I don't expect visible results from a natural anabolic. He told me to take photos. He also wouldn't tell me anything to look for in the product i.e. hunger, muscle fullness etc. I was surprised at how honestly he let me run it.
My log has photos and very honest feedback. At one point I said four capsules felt too strong for me and I was struggling to keep up with that dose due to the hunger. If you want a genuinely unbiased log, look at mine.
04-05-2013, 02:03 PM
... Ya I dont really care, gee willakers batman pes reps stole my thread, gtfoOriginally Posted by bdcc
04-05-2013, 02:05 PM
04-05-2013, 02:07 PM
04-05-2013, 02:08 PM
These food pics are making me crazy!
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04-05-2013, 02:49 PM
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