DS Craze Lawsuit and FDA Action

[Ninjo]

The original tubs had Trimethylglycine listed as the first ingredient. The newer ones list creatine mono first. Hope that helps.

[OrganicShadow]

Welcome to life. This is how most recalls work, including cars. Whether it is cheaper to settle to defects when the accident arises versus fixing every flaw

Toyota?

[Iron_Will]

I just bought a tub that has the tmg listed as the first ingredient. hmmm thats weird. But the feeling was the same as always. i find the grape is more of a calm energy compared to the crazolade though

[justinmonty]

im thinking of ordering craze , but all this stuff about it being unhealthy is pushing me away can anyone enlighten me on whats up with this product?!?!?

[tilldeath]

im thinking of ordering craze , but all this stuff about it being unhealthy is pushing me away can anyone enlighten me on whats up with this product?!?!?

honestly it's kinda up in the air, it will either be the best thing ever for you or you won't get much out of it, doesn't seem to be much middle ground. Search through the threads and if you believe Patrick Arnold, which I do, then there was an unlisted ingredient in the batch he tested. That being said I don't stress and it's the best PWO I have tried to date and I can say for a fact I have tried almost all of them. There are a few others I really like, but Craze is a different animal no huge rush of energy like other's but huge focus and drive that lasts forever. Craze is Thick.Solid.Tight.

[stewseo]

Anyone stockpile the old craze and reselling?

[Afi140]

The original tubs had Trimethylglycine listed as the first ingredient. The newer ones list creatine mono first. Hope that helps.

Just received a new craze from bb.com tmg is the first ingredient. Anyone know specific lot numbers so I could compare? I know bb.com is in bed with ds. So if it was tainted don't u think they toss the tainted batches? I know for a fact there is a difference between the new and old that's for sure.

[Afi140]

it also has a different lid from the tub in my cabinet. Is that common place to have different lids? They have different lot numbers but both exp 4/15

[mysticrican86]

Anyone know the Lot # for the original batch?

[stewseo]

it also has a different lid from the tub in my cabinet. Is that common place to have different lids? They have different lot numbers but both exp 4/15

My new tub expiring 6/15 doesn't work well. I'll post the lot # later

[mr.cooper69]

My new tub expiring 6/15 doesn't work well. I'll post the lot # later

OG batch 10/14. Works as well as ever. Almost an "essential" for late night study sessions

[Austinmck17]

OG batch 10/14. Works as well as ever. Almost an "essential" for late night study sessions

How is it working in terms of helping you learn new information? I have

Currently I am using this noot stack

1 scoop focus xt
3g piracetam
2g alcar

I am going to buy aniracetam and prami.
I might add phenylpiracetam to try it. I am liking the effects of this but it doesn't provide enough alertness to keep me focus for more than 4 hours

I have subiltamine which helps me out after a couple hours studying

[mr.cooper69]

How is it working in terms of helping you learn new information? I have

Currently I am using this noot stack

1 scoop focus xt
3g piracetam
2g alcar

I am going to buy aniracetam and prami.
I might add phenylpiracetam to try it. I am liking the effects of this but it doesn't provide enough alertness to keep me focus for more than 4 hours

I have subiltamine which helps me out after a couple hours studying

The effect on learning and retention is nil, but the energy is a welcome addition when the desire to sleep takes hold. Who says I'm not combining it with a scoop of stim-free focus xt + aniracetam? Phenyl/demiurge is great as well

[gahcase21]

Is there anywhere I can acquire some n-benzyl-2-pea, and just add it to the new bottles of craze to get the same effect. I really miss what it can do for me.

[Afi140]

just tried the new "old" bottle. Same as the new ones, not the same as the originals... Bummer.

[Patrick Arnold]

i have one that is lot 1204131

does anyone have the same lot and if so what was their opinion of the lot?

[Afi140]

i have one that is lot 1204131

does anyone have the same lot and if so what was their opinion of the lot?

I have 4131. just finished it. Definitely NOT the original.

[Afi140]

i have one that is lot 1204131

does anyone have the same lot and if so what was their opinion of the lot?

I think you need Coopers October 2014 batch. Those were the "good" ones

[Patrick Arnold]

I have 4131. just finished it. Definitely NOT the original.

well i havent tried it but i had someone else try it and they didnt think it was anything special. but then that person never had the original


and i came across this on bb.com. this guy seems to think it WAS like the original. odd

Grape Flavor - Same effects I had been having since I first purchased the product. Mental clarity and distinct euphoric feeling with smooth energy.
Lot # 1204131
Exp. 4/15
Purchased 10/10/2012

[SpicedCider]

In case anyone wants to compare, I have a tub from lot #1206421 in the Berry Lemonade flavor. I have used it on several occasions (with each one always being spaced two weeks from the last), and I have never felt anything from it. It is basically no more useful or effective than a nastier-tasting Crystal Light. Prior to buying the Berry Lemonade tub, I had never tried Craze before and wish I hadn't wasted my money on it.