Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
YES!!! Not me but I was dumb enough to take in the first place and I bought it first month of release. I only took 1 scoop every two weeks because of how powerful it was. I gave it to a friend at a gym that was currently taking the Lemonade flavor or whatever the fuk it is and he said my grape was just fuking insane compared To his bottle and he will actually throw away his lemonade cuz it's compared to the 3/4 bottle of mine left.
Hmmm. I've also seen tons of threads about the same thing on a different forum.
Rejoice not against me, O mine enemy: when I fall, I shall arise; when I sit in darkness, the LORD shall be a light unto me. Micah 7:8
Play it safe haha. I'm in law school right now and it's crazy how many times you need to cover your back. Just outright have to say "I am asking a question, and only a question." because lawyers are good at finding the smallest issues in wordibgOriginally Posted by Patrick Arnold
Bought craze when it very very first came out. Without a doubt there is a difference. The first tub- best workout of my life with energy to spare. Then there was a huge change. Later ones including crazolade- Not motivated I want to lift feeling but a high where I am in a different mindset. 90% of the time I wouldn't even workout. Hence... No more craze for meOriginally Posted by Patrick Arnold
It's a sad day when we can't have a legitimate discussion about one of the best selling supplements on one of the more popular forums. I know spiking has been going on since the dawn of nutritional supplements but I don't recall a case that has received as much attention as Craze (at least from within the bodybuilding and fitness "community"). I know it was spiked, DS knows it was spiked, PA (even though he can't and won't say as much) knows it was spiked, my girlfriend who watched me bounce off the freaking walls for 12 hours straight after 2 scoops knows it was spiked, everybody that has taken the stuff knows it was spiked. I guess that's fine and dandy, but why not say what's really in it? From what I've been able to gather the designer PEA's that were (allegedly) in Craze are not illegal, so why hide it? Maybe because it wasn't from a natural source or naturally extracted? I don't know. What I do know is this board is the only one I've been able to come to for factual information regarding this and other bodybuilding supplements. Positive, negative or somewhere in between, I know I'm not getting a company line or a bunch of BS here. I can't say that about BB.com or other boards. Hell, the guys over at BB.com have been busy playing reach-around with Cahill and all of his paid board cronies for the last two months on just about every thread regarding Craze and it aggrevates me to no end how they play the public like we're stupid. I'm sure Craze will continue selling big.... Good for DS, but they won't be getting my money. It really sucks that PA feels he can't speak about something we'd all like some information about because of legal threats and the like.
^^^ thanks to the bro that edited my post and put the exact link I need to get to 50 posts and 800 reps to post links
Anybody have an older tub of grape Craze that they want to sell/trade for?
I paid for a product spiked with amphetamines, dammit.
there have been numerous threads over at bb.com bringing up an issue about the new craze, everyone says it's a placebo/mindset problem. or if they're new they chalk it as a troll.
i wish there was a way, that all the results would just get wiki leaked. it's pretty easy to black out some names, and upload the tests.
If its any good then it was old batch.. ;-)Originally Posted by Docmattic
there is no such thing as taking an active compound and not feeling any physiological effect due to psychological factors. it just does not make any sense really
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Pat, I definitely notice a difference, no doubt about it. I have some old lots and the new flavor. There's definitely a difference between the two besides the flavor.Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold