DS Craze Lawsuit and FDA Action

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    deprenyl is synthetic but it supposed to make phenethylamines potent

    I know of some natural type AMAOIs that are strong but phenethylamines need MAOI type B

    Harmine alkaloids (type I MAOIs) most certainly make DMT active in the CNS. However DMT is a tryptamine not a phenethylamine.


  2. i like grape but,i only use one scoop at a time which,is plenty strong enough for me.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Harmine alkaloids (type I MAOIs) most certainly make DMT active in the CNS. However DMT is a tryptamine not a phenethylamine.

    i just said dat

    where did it go?
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  4. MAO(B) works on phenthylamines. Not awares of any naturally occuring ones
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    i just said dat

    where did it go?
    You weren't the only one who commented on that post. Like attempting to educate a snail, it is
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  6. what does anyone know about

    ISOPROPYLAMPHETAMINE
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  7. The first few tubs of Craze I purchased are nothing like the ones I'm receiving now. I don't care what DS (no disrespect) or any one else says. Something changed...

  8. Quote Originally Posted by southsideguy View Post
    The first few tubs of Craze I purchased are nothing like the ones I'm receiving now. I don't care what DS (no disrespect) or any one else says. Something changed...
    I wouldn't worry too much about respect with them. They clearly do not respect their customers by doing that. They respect money. However, I agree 100% with you
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by southsideguy View Post
    The first few tubs of Craze I purchased are nothing like the ones I'm receiving now. I don't care what DS (no disrespect) or any one else says. Something changed...
    Cant raws vary? Thats possible. Different batches of raws may have a different effect. It just got banned in Aus.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post

    Cant raws vary? Thats possible. Different batches of raws may have a different effect. It just got banned in Aus.
    Yes they can. However. Ds posted "documentation" of each bast being tested. So they claim not a thing has changed. Oh wait. The label did rofl.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post
    Cant raws vary? Thats possible. Different batches of raws may have a different effect. It just got banned in Aus.

    this is why raws are standardized for actives and QC tested

    Yes they can vary a lot, if you dont perform proper QC
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post
    Cant raws vary? Thats possible. Different batches of raws may have a different effect. It just got banned in Aus.
    Say what?
    What ingredient did they ban?
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Docmattic

    Say what?
    What ingredient did they ban?
    That's the million dollar question right now.

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  14. I did some research,

    Word is some Australian government labritories did some testing and found Alpha-Diethyl-Benzeneethamine (i havnt checked if this is on the label), which they consider to be an analog to meth-anphetamine-therefore they are in the stages of banning it.

    {edited to fix a mistake}
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  15. Does this mean it could be addictive?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    what does anyone know about

    ISOPROPYLAMPHETAMINE
    dont we ask you the questions? lol

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Docmattic View Post
    I did some research,

    Word is some Australian government labritories did some testing and found Alpha-Diethyl-Benzeneethamine (i havnt checked if this is on the label), which they consider to be a 2 step precursor to meth-anphetamine-therefore they are in the stages of banning it.
    need a better description of the chemical

    does this mean N,alpha-diethyl-benzeneethanamine?

    that would be very interesting. and very naughty!
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Docmattic View Post
    I did some research,

    Word is some Australian government labritories did some testing and found Alpha-Diethyl-Benzeneethamine (i havnt checked if this is on the label), which they consider to be a 2 step precursor to meth-anphetamine-therefore they are in the stages of banning it.

    not a 2 step precursor but an analog, if this is what i think it is

    methamphetamine is N,alpha-dimethyl-benzeneethanamine

    i guess you could call this "ethamphetamine" lol
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by LMR01 View Post
    dont we ask you the questions? lol

    isopropylamphetamine is the same MW as this diethyl benzeneethanamine

    very very interesting
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by Docmattic View Post
    Alpha-Diethyl-Benzeneethamine (i havnt checked if this is on the label), which they consider to be a 2 step precursor to meth-anphetamine-therefore they are in the stages of banning it.
    If the nomenclature is correct, then it is an analogue of Phentermine - a pharmaceutical fat loss drug (anorectic). I doubt this is the case.

    Here is what it would look like: pubchem. ncbi. nlm.nih.gov/summary/summary.cgi?c****18506351&loc=e c_rcs (remove the spaces)

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post

    need a better description of the chemical

    does this mean N,alpha-diethyl-benzeneethanamine?

    that would be very interesting. and very naughty!
    yes this is the one (confirmed from email from aus customs). pls tell us more about this

  22. Quote Originally Posted by lronFist View Post
    If the nomenclature is correct, then it is an analogue of Phentermine - a pharmaceutical fat loss drug (anorectic). I doubt this is the case.

    Here is what it would look like: pubchem. ncbi. nlm.nih.gov/summary/summary.cgi?c****18506351&loc=e c_rcs (remove the spaces)

    oh damn yeah thats another possibility. ee gatz

    if true this would be a criminal case of massive proportions
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  23. pieces are coming together damn
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    oh damn yeah thats another possibility. ee gatz

    if true this would be a criminal case of massive proportions
    Indeed.
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