DS Craze Lawsuit and FDA Action
- 04-05-2013, 09:42 PM
thats fine. i honestly wouldnt. If i were taking the product (i never tried it) and I liked it and i didnt feel it was hurting me i would keep taking it. I mean just cuz i suddenly knew what it was giving me that feel doesnt mean that the stuff has changed. I dont see anything regarding this meth analog (other than its in the amphetamine class) that makes me think its gonna really hurt someone acutel
my peeve with this is that i dont like the idea of a competitor cutting corners to steal market share. if i think a competitor might be playing dirty i am gonna find out. its not about safety or concern for consumers with me, its protecting my business interests. That and I just love solving mysteries like thisAnabolicminds.com Featured Author
- 04-05-2013, 09:45 PM
04-05-2013, 09:45 PM
04-05-2013, 09:46 PM
Ok, gambling and women. For real now. Peace!
04-05-2013, 09:48 PM
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04-06-2013, 12:15 AM
04-06-2013, 02:18 AM
It may be a while, But Im sure federal police tested more than one tub. I doubt they give a **** about anyone on a forum. We'll have to wait til we get more information. You could email Afp, tga and ask questions, claim youre a supplement store owner looking for information. They generally reply
04-06-2013, 02:35 AM
anywaaayyysss to lighten the tone a little who pre-gamed with clear-shot n vodka (not condoning) and had one of the best nights of their life.......#thissssguyyyyyy
04-06-2013, 03:01 AM
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04-06-2013, 10:06 AM
that is up to the courts to decide. personally i think it is. however until it is deemed an analog it is still just an uncontrolled chem
u bring up a question though. in such a situation can they declare it an analog and then prosecute its previous sale? or can such prosecutions only happen after the declaration? I am guessing they can prosecute previous sales
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04-06-2013, 10:44 AM
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04-06-2013, 04:49 PM
04-06-2013, 08:05 PM
If someone is a WADA tested athlete I would personally tell them to avoid pretty much anything that contains stims sans coffee. WADA is so over the top with their testing that even if the substance in craze is not banned who is to say they won't ban it and come back to your sample at a later date. I feel bad for anyone under WADA I have no love loss for them.
04-06-2013, 10:50 PM
04-08-2013, 09:54 PM
Stuff is getting around
January 2013, Volume 31, Issue 1, pp 54-58
Identification of N-ethyl-α-ethylphenethylamine in crystalline powder seized for suspected drug trafficking: a research chemical or a new designer drug?
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A crystalline powder was found in an unclaimed lost article shipped from Vietnam to South Korea, and it was seized by narcotics agents as an item of suspicious trade. The chemical was suspected to be methamphetamine crystals, and was sent to the National Forensic Service for forensic identification. Elucidation of the chemical structure was carried out using gas chromatography–electron impact ionization–mass spectrometry, liquid chromatography–time-of-flight–mass spectrometry, and 1D and 2D nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy. The compound was identified as N-ethyl-α-ethylphenethylamine. Although the narcotic effect of this compound remains unverified, it may be classified as a phenethylamine-based designer drug on the basis of its structure. It appeared that the recipient of this article sought to abuse this chemical in the same way as amphetamines. There is a possibility that this chemical will be widely abused for recreational use in the near future.
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04-08-2013, 10:37 PM
Dang -- now I REALLY wish I wasn't a non-responder to Craze. I'm jealous of you guys who have actually felt something from taking it...
04-09-2013, 06:48 AM
can't post link, but this got brought up on bb.com and the thread is already gone:
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04-09-2013, 06:53 AM
Am I correct in assuming that N-etyl-1-fenyl-2-butylamin is the same as N-ethyl-1-phenyl-2-butylamine?
04-09-2013, 08:09 AM
04-09-2013, 08:10 AM
04-09-2013, 08:18 AM
They bring up all the side effects I've felt at one time or another on craze. When i first started taking craze i was anxious as hell after my workout. I also got confused (as outlined in the article) all the time. I couldn't even get basic sentences out because i kept forgetting what i was trying to say mid sentence.
An interesting read.
04-09-2013, 08:25 AM
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