Just got the email. For those wondering what it is:
N-Coumaroyldopamine & N-caffeoyldopamine
Symplocos Racemosa Extract (standardized for triterpenoids
Thoughts?

I believe bitter melon has triterpenoids
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It also contains:
N-Coumaroyldopamine & N-caffeoyldopamine
Added it to the original post.
whats your guys take on these ingredients
IC release only lets a person buy 1 bottle...aren't most loggers not really feeling anything until like end of week 2...week 3?
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Pretty much. I'm testing it now with about 9 days left. I myself am tempted to buy a bottle to finish a solid 8 week run or maybe up the dosage to 6 caps a day, but I don't see the appeal of this IC release if you aren't already testing it unless the price is going to be $40+ a bottle afterwards (I know it says the MSRP is $70 but we all know that's not what it'll be at Nutra).
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I agree a person needs two bottles too make a good run at it
So is this another usp over hype or is it worth the 36$ price tag? I haven't been following the logs just read the right up.
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Sounds like a lot of hype to me.
If it weren't for the debacle that was Pink Magic, I would probably buy this, today and even have a friend buy another bottle. However, that still has left not a sour taste in my mouth, but perhaps more of a lack of trust.
The logic behind this sounds great and theoretically makes sense to me. I'd rather wait until it's a little more tried and true, though. Whenever this "world's greatest product" hits, it'll either stick around because of sales, will fade away (for the same reason), or get banned. Either way, I feel confident in waiting. And heck, even if it ended up costing MSRP down the road, but there were enough studies, trials, etc. on it, it would be worth it at that point.
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I agree with midwestbeast -
Already have to much on my list of "want to try next" anyway
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So in a nutshell, what the hell is this n how/why should one use it?? Lol
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If you're following IF, you'd want to take your first dose with meal 1 and your last dose with your final meal; still should be spread out by 8 hours. When I tried IF for a while, I had my lifting sandwiched in between my eating times, though. I still don't like the concept of working out fasted (other than something light).
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And if you base it off of their write-up, a condensed version would be that it's supposed to work like clen, but with no spill-over that affects your body with negative sides and is dosed at a level where you not only get the fat-burning benefits, but the muscle building benefits, as well.
Again, on paper, this sounds great. I'll say that the beta logs look good, too, but I'm still waiting until it hits retail and is logged/studied more regularly/in-depth.
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I was just thinking about this after my last post and while I was driving somewhere. I may be completely off base here, but I wanted to spew my uncollected thoughts out on here before it slipped my mind. If this is affecting the same receptors as clen, then wouldn't operating at a 2 weeks on/2 weeks off method prove to be more beneficial? Wouldn't 8 weeks straight not be a good thing? What about using keto or benadryl to cleanse receptors?
I may be way off in all that, but it's what came to mind. As I always point out, I have virtually NO science background (yet), so it was just a thought.
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Sadly they arn't doing the pre-release outside the US either, the Inner Circle deal is also a bit of a let down based on what they have done before, so I'm probably gonna sit this one out.
Anyone found a good log on this? There's a sea of them on the USP site but most we're drawn out with not much information. Hard to find a quality log among the masses.
Also heard some people saying it was basically ursolic acid and some other stuff, but haven't found any evidence to support that. Anyone find any truth in that?