Compound 20 ingredient released

**ax1** · 11-29-2011 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Daycrawler

Well first off. It doesnt work... Benadryl does not "restore your receptors."

We dont know if it does or doesnt work...we dont know for sure either way unless you have a real human study that supports any definitive statement.

**Patrick Arnold** · 11-29-2011 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by ax1

We dont know if it does or doesnt work...we dont know for sure either way unless you have a real human study that supports any definitive statement.

we dont know whether tangerines cure cancer either i guess then cuz no real human study has been done

u must have had the same science professor that eric marchevitz and jacob giesler had

there should at least be a theoretical basis to stand on, and there isnt even a theoretical basis for benadryl and beta2 receptor downregulation that i am aware of

**Daycrawler** · 11-29-2011 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

we dont know whether tangerines cure cancer either i guess then cuz no real human study has been done

u must have had the same science professor that eric marchevitz and jacob giesler had

there should at least be a theoretical basis to stand on, and there isnt even a theoretical basis for benadryl and beta2 receptor downregulation that i am aware of

Thanks. Took words out of my mouth.

**ax1** · 11-29-2011 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

we dont know whether tangerines cure cancer either i guess then cuz no real human study has been done

u must have had the same science professor that eric marchevitz and jacob giesler had

there should at least be a theoretical basis to stand on, and there isnt even a theoretical basis for benadryl and beta2 receptor downregulation that i am aware of

My scientists primarily study out of books that the Russians donated to us back in the 50's after we demolished the imperialist west during the war. The task of translating material is a tough task.

There are claims on that steroids website comparing benadryl to ketotifen since they are both anti-histimine.

I dunno..I never claimed anything I just said we dont know for sure. Personally Id use keto if I used that crap

**Patrick Arnold** · 11-29-2011 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by ax1

My scientists primarily study out of books that the Russians donated to us back in the 50's after we demolished the imperialist west during the war. The task of translating material is a tough task.

There are claims on that steroids website comparing benadryl to ketotifen since they are both anti-histimine.

I dunno..I never claimed anything I just said we dont know for sure. Personally Id use keto if I used that crap

ketotifen is also anti-serotonin

**Sourdough** · 11-29-2011 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

ketotifen is also anti-serotonin

sounds like a fun way to get depressed and feel like crap from clen at the same time!!!

**Patrick Arnold** · 11-29-2011 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Sourdough

sounds like a fun way to get depressed and feel like crap from clen at the same time!!!

brain chemistry is way more complicated than that

there actually is an anti-depressant out there now thats an anti-serotonin

none of it makes any sense to be honest

**Sourdough** · 11-29-2011 07:23 PM

wow... i think they just keep throwin pills at the wall and see which ones stick, be damned of how they do though...

**Daycrawler** · 11-29-2011 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by ax1

We dont know if it does or doesnt work...we dont know for sure either way unless you have a real human study that supports any definitive statement.

Quite often people misattribute the better, deeper sleep while on benadryl as reseting the receptors...

Of course if you're getting better sleep you wont need to use stimulants to keep you awake.

**miniarnold** · 11-30-2011 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by ax1

If thats what you want, you want significant results without changing anything you need to take something that has alot of side effects.

AGREED,
was just thinking of the so called natty supps that could poss if ery lucky take some fat off/harden up with no change in diet and can only think of ursobolic and c20 again maybe, and possibly and if they were effective to a decent extent that would be great for all,
but as said i agree it could be a tall order and to far fetched, and getting good results with no other changes usually takes a drug or some type of gear but maybe one of the 2 natty supps could give reasonable/modest results in fat loss with no dietry changes, one can wish hey it seems to be possible for some.

**AdelV** · 12-08-2011 05:36 AM

Any feedback on this yet?

**miniarnold** · 12-08-2011 06:09 AM

all quiet, cant get in the Uk
how much ua if any is in this per serving, apologies if i missed it

**Sourdough** · 12-08-2011 06:18 AM

none...

found out they are extracting for other triterpenoids found in symplocos racemosa uniquely and used the study for Ursolic Acid in their writeup as a general example of what these triterpenoids can do... and supposedly even better then UA...

**miniarnold** · 12-08-2011 06:26 AM

Ok wasnt sure if it did have any, but what it does have could be similar and as good as actual ua?
waiting for the new version of ursol xt to come out to see how much actual ua is in the improved version but i guess that will be a long way off yet
Cheers man

**Sourdough** · 12-08-2011 06:33 AM

i could care less how much UA they put in the new Ursol XT as long as its properly complexed with a cyclodextrin...

as for the compound 20... dude... its pretty damn effective and IMO should stack well with other UA products to accentuate its effects.... just try it.

**miniarnold** · 12-08-2011 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by Sourdough

i could care less how much UA they put in the new Ursol XT as long as its properly complexed with a cyclodextrin...

that means the cyclodextrin makes it more effective and bioavailable? still gonna wait till the new batch tho

as for the compound 20... dude... its pretty damn effective and IMO should stack well with other UA products to accentuate its effects.... just try it.

i would but have to wait months for it to land in the uk

**miniarnold** · 12-08-2011 07:26 AM

[QUOTE=Sourdough;3121999]i could care less how much UA they put in the new Ursol XT as long as its properly complexed with a cyclodextrin...

that means the cyclodextrin makes it more effective and bioavailable? still gonna wait till the new batch tho

nice 1 dough

**Patrick Arnold** · 12-08-2011 09:19 AM

[QUOTE=miniarnold;3122039]

Originally Posted by Sourdough

i could care less how much UA they put in the new Ursol XT as long as its properly complexed with a cyclodextrin...

that means the cyclodextrin makes it more effective and bioavailable? still gonna wait till the new batch tho

nice 1 dough

nobody is going to be complexing ursolic acid with a cyclodextrin so drop it

**miniarnold** · 12-08-2011 10:32 AM

[QUOTE=Patrick Arnold;3122183]

Originally Posted by miniarnold

nobody is going to be complexing ursolic acid with a cyclodextrin so drop it

or does that mean you hope...

drop it.......i was asking what cyclodextrin will do, if you dont like the convo dont have an input!

**Patrick Arnold** · 12-08-2011 10:46 AM

[QUOTE=miniarnold;3122297]

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

or does that mean you hope...

drop it.......i was asking what cyclodextrin will do, if you dont like the convo dont have an input!

i have researched ursolic acid and cyclodextrin and it complexes very poorly and difficultly and offers little advantage. i am trying to tell you to drop it so you dont waste your time talking about it. i suspect i wont be successful though

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