Compound 20 ingredient released

[MidwestBeast]

Sadly they arn't doing the pre-release outside the US either, the Inner Circle deal is also a bit of a let down based on what they have done before, so I'm probably gonna sit this one out.

Anyone found a good log on this? There's a sea of them on the USP site but most we're drawn out with not much information. Hard to find a quality log among the masses.

Also heard some people saying it was basically ursolic acid and some other stuff, but haven't found any evidence to support that. Anyone find any truth in that?

Molding The Dough with Compound 20 (Beta Test)

I admittedly haven't followed any logs outside of this one. I've beta-tested the last 2 product releases (Pink Magic and Yok3d) over on the USP forums and didn't bother following anything, this time.

SourDough does an excellent job logging/reviewing, though.

[mattrag]

Molding The Dough with Compound 20 (Beta Test)

I admittedly haven't followed any logs outside of this one. I've beta-tested the last 2 product releases (Pink Magic and Yok3d) over on the USP forums and didn't bother following anything, this time.

SourDough does an excellent job logging/reviewing, though.

This log is great. Been following since the beginning. SHows you what it does,and how it affects him. In very good detail!

[PrepNwa23]

Is it me or has the IC release gotten worse and worse? I remember Jacked's IC was epic, and it was a good deal for Modern BCAA's, and some other decent ones.

[mattrag]

yea it was quite disappointing and thus will probably not be buying this

Is it me or has the IC release gotten worse and worse? I remember Jacked's IC was epic, and it was a good deal for Modern BCAA's, and some other decent ones.

[MidwestBeast]

Is it me or has the IC release gotten worse and worse? I remember Jacked's IC was epic, and it was a good deal for Modern BCAA's, and some other decent ones.

The BCAA deal was fantastic. If I recall, the Pink Magic release was pretty solid, too (2 Pink Magics, 1 Prime, 1 P-Slin for $90 or $100 shipped -- I THINK). I was in on the TNA re-release deal and I think the OEP release was my first IC purchase (had only learned about USP very shortly before that).

[flightposite]

Yeah kinda disappointed with the ic release. Samples be the the surprise/draw.... Hmm

[MidwestBeast]

Yeah kinda disappointed with the ic release. Samples be the the surprise/draw.... Hmm

The one thing I'll say, is Jacob could surprise everyone by having that "sample" be the new flavor of Jack3d or something like that, which would turn the purchase into a win for everyone.

The deal isn't even what keeps me from purchasing, though. I've got no problems paying $100 for something if it truly works and is worth it; especially if someone offers money back if it doesn't deliver. What I'm personally sick of, though, is rushing into a bunch of "great deals" and ending up with stuff that may work, but is marginal (not saying that will be the case here).

Think about it, though. I'm not talking about just USP; I'm talking in general. Think about how many products you've seen come out for as long as you've been following supplements that have claimed to be so fantastic. How many of them A) lived up to the hype, but more importantly, B) are still around?! Like I said earlier, stuff does 1 of 3 things:

1) It sticks around because it's decent, good, great, or just has a cult following.
2) It flops and we never see it again (other than in the supplement auction lol).
3) It's amazing and the government finds a reason to ban it.

I'm much more cautious in my supplement purchase, these days. I'm confident that anything I want will be around long enough to prove itself before I purchase it. And I'd rather save my money from all these "great release deals" and pool it together to pay a chunk of change for something I know will deliver.

[SynergyIre]

Molding The Dough with Compound 20 (Beta Test)

I admittedly haven't followed any logs outside of this one. I've beta-tested the last 2 product releases (Pink Magic and Yok3d) over on the USP forums and didn't bother following anything, this time.

SourDough does an excellent job logging/reviewing, though.

Thanks! That's perfect Just finished getting though it.

[Cool]

Seems like USP's rep has taken a hit post Pink Magic. These releases use to create a much bigger buzz whether the discussion was positive or negative. BB.com, that cess pool, is barely talking about it. I'm interested in it personally but things have certainly changed.

[flightposite]

Yeah your right. Although I would have definitely purchased had the deal been something like two for 40$ deal or 50$ even.

[MidwestBeast]

Seems like USP's rep has taken a hit post Pink Magic. These releases use to create a much bigger buzz whether the discussion was positive or negative.

You are certainly correct. Once you get through the stylistic writing of their write-up, it's pretty interesting stuff. That being said, I'm still happy to wait and watch this stuff unfold.

[fightbackhxc]

You definitely need +2 bottles to run at higher dose IMO.

[chedapalooza]

I guess my ? Is What goals Would this be geared at? I know that goals r more training/nutrition based, so what would it work best with to be specific.. I've never user clen or really researched it.. Which I'm assuming they best the effects to be similar to that of clen?? So like a lean bulk or preserving cut ? I know it's SO early to talk about but.. I can't help myself! Lol

[MidwestBeast]

If this operates as advertised, it would be versatile for any goal (similar to Anabeta, but the write-up makes it sound exponentially more effective). Sourdough has put on 8 lbs and appears to have trimmed up his midsection just a bit, too. So, bulking without fat gain, cutting without losing muscle, or recomping and falling right in between both.

I'm looking forward to what the next several months show.

[chedapalooza]

If this operates as advertised, it would be versatile for any goal (similar to Anabeta, but the write-up makes it sound exponentially more effective). Sourdough has put on 8 lbs and appears to have trimmed up his midsection just a bit, too. So, bulking without fat gain, cutting without losing muscle, or recomping and falling right in between both.

I'm looking forward to what the next several months show.

Yea guess well have to Wait n see

[nattydisaster]

I was just thinking about this after my last post and while I was driving somewhere. I may be completely off base here, but I wanted to spew my uncollected thoughts out on here before it slipped my mind. If this is affecting the same receptors as clen, then wouldn't operating at a 2 weeks on/2 weeks off method prove to be more beneficial? Wouldn't 8 weeks straight not be a good thing? What about using keto or benadryl to cleanse receptors?

I may be way off in all that, but it's what came to mind. As I always point out, I have virtually NO science background (yet), so it was just a thought.

Clen has to be taken 2 weeks on/off for 2 reasons

1) Long half life

2) high selectivity

If you take beta agonists with less slecetivity and/or shorter half lives, you can take them more frequently. Examples: Ephedrine, Albuterol, Higenamine, Methyl-synephrine

The structure of the C20 beta agonists here are pretty cool...there is a good article on the net that explains their data and shows a picture.

Their comparisons to known beta-agonists are also very cool...I did not read into what the half lives may be so I cannot comment on if its short or long

[mattrag]

Clen has to be taken 2 weeks on/off for 2 reasons

1) Long half life

2) high selectivity

If you take beta agonists with less slecetivity and/or shorter half lives, you can take them more frequently. Examples: Ephedrine, Albuterol, Higenamine, Methyl-synephrine

The structure of the beta agonists here are pretty cool. Their comparisons to known beta-agonists are also very cool...I did not read into what the half lives may be so I cannot comment on if its short or long

Are those two still in AT2? Or perhaps im confusing the PES product with something else?

[nattydisaster]

Higenamine is in AT2, it replaced methyl-syn in the formula

[mattrag]

Higenamine is in AT2, it replaced methyl-syn in the formula

Ah, okay remember seeing um both in AT2. Makes sense because I have taken both

Love um. Thanks for the quick reply man!

[mr.cooper69]

Still have to try Higenamine!