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  1. Quote Originally Posted by broons View Post
    think i would wait at least another 2 weeks. That would give you 3 weeks on the compound. Should be plenty of time to see some kind of result
    Yeah thats sort of what Im thinking.....mid december.....maybe by then I can get some of IFORCE's product and run some comparables..?

    Mr.50


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Mr.50 View Post
    run some comparables..?
    I'm afraid there won't be any

    Haha, I'm just razzing you a little bit - but I do know NTBM uses extreme prejudice when choosing his sources and extraction processes.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    I'm afraid there won't be any

    Haha, I'm just razzing you a little bit - but I do know NTBM uses extreme prejudice when choosing his sources and extraction processes.
    Yes I have certainly heard that too! Just waiting to see what the exact formulation of the IForce product is to determine how close (besides the bulbine) the two products are?

    Mr.50

  4. I would be interested to know if there's any difference in the amount of bulbine between the 2. Pretty sure they both use the same source. Prolensis.

  5. Well because of other personal factors it looks like I will be getting some follow up clood work next week one way or the other......sooooo

    Mr.50
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  6. maybe slightly increased libido overall today guys...

    Mr.50

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Mr.50 View Post
    maybe slightly increased libido overall today guys...

    Mr.50
    pictures or it didn't happen

  8. Quote Originally Posted by muscl3s View Post
    pictures or it didn't happen
    ha ha ha ha ha

    Mr.50

  9. Day 9. Nothing new to say really. Not feeling too motivated today. Been disappointed all week with myself in the gym. Need to get my ass motivated. Some have said day 10 is when this stuff starts to shine but unless there's a big change in the next 24 hours I'm really not "feeling" it. That doesn't mean its not doing something, just not becoming apparent yet.

  10. updates?
    for while bodily training is of some value, godliness is of value in every way, as it holds promise for the present life and also for the life to come 1 Tim 4:8

  11. Subbed to see if PhytoSerms347 lives up to the hype!

  12. My only updates are still a slight libido increase and slight fullness in testicles. Nothing new to report. Considering going up to three caps a day instead of 2. Not sure though because if this has a mechanism of action similar to a trust SERM then higher dosing may have negative effects on libido etc...


    Mr.50

  13. Well this is day 12, nothing to report. Maybe slight libido increase, little bit of mood enhancement. Other than that, nothing. Havent noticed any increased energy or aggression. Really thought I'd be seeing some effects from this by now but has been pretty disappointing. Granted, I am only roughly halfway through the bottle so the jury is still out. But if this is a supp that requires 2 bottles to really get the effect, then in my mind, it is not really worth the cost when there are other boosters out there that have a more immediate effect for less money.

    Really interested to see Mr 50's followup bloodwork to see if there has been any effect, regardless of whether we are "feeling" it or not.

    Will keep yall updated.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by broons View Post
    Well this is day 12, nothing to report. Maybe slight libido increase, little bit of mood enhancement. Other than that, nothing. Havent noticed any increased energy or aggression. Really thought I'd be seeing some effects from this by now but has been pretty disappointing. Granted, I am only roughly halfway through the bottle so the jury is still out. But if this is a supp that requires 2 bottles to really get the effect, then in my mind, it is not really worth the cost when there are other boosters out there that have a more immediate effect for less money.

    Really interested to see Mr 50's followup bloodwork to see if there has been any effect, regardless of whether we are "feeling" it or not.

    Will keep yall updated.
    Thanks for the updates. Looking forward to seeing those blood test results too.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    Thanks for the updates. Looking forward to seeing those blood test results too.
    Agreed gentlemen..... I will be interested to see if my blood work shows anything "going on" even though subjectively I am not really noticing much of anything.

    Mr.50

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Mr.50 View Post
    Agreed gentlemen..... I will be interested to see if my blood work shows anything "going on" even though subjectively I am not really noticing much of anything.

    Mr.50
    i am waiting to see if you do notice anything-how many days you have left?
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    I'm afraid there won't be any

    Haha, I'm just razzing you a little bit - but I do know NTBM uses extreme prejudice when choosing his sources and extraction processes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.50 View Post
    Yeah thats sort of what Im thinking.....mid december.....maybe by then I can get some of IFORCE's product and run some comparables..?

    Mr.50
    Same source as anyone else wanting it right now

  18. That is quite interesting you are noticing no effects still outside of the general libido boost. Maybe you don't respond to bulbine... I get nothing from any tribulus product but I do from many other test boosting ingredients (even though trib technically does not boost test).

  19. True we could both be non responders.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by broons View Post
    True we could both be non responders.
    so nothing for you yet either?
    for while bodily training is of some value, godliness is of value in every way, as it holds promise for the present life and also for the life to come 1 Tim 4:8

  21. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    That is quite interesting you are noticing no effects still outside of the general libido boost. Maybe you don't respond to bulbine... I get nothing from any tribulus product but I do from many other test boosting ingredients (even though trib technically does not boost test).
    Its possible...... I will say that I have never tried any compound, hormonal or non, that I have not had any effects from (some effects are good and some bad).....but its possible I guess.

    Mr.50

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Mr.50 View Post
    Its possible...... I will say that I have never tried any compound, hormonal or non, that I have not had any effects from (some effects are good and some bad).....but its possible I guess.

    Mr.50
    keep us updated
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.50 View Post
    Its possible...... I will say that I have never tried any compound, hormonal or non, that I have not had any effects from (some effects are good and some bad).....but its possible I guess.

    Mr.50
    Well, you never know- Hcgen had zero effect on me that I could FEEL...and everyone and their mother swears by the stuff...hopefully its just taking this stuff a while to kick in on you, never the less, I'm glad I waited to pull the trigger on this one.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by antknee View Post
    Well, you never know- Hcgen had zero effect on me that I could FEEL...and everyone and their mother swears by the stuff...hopefully its just taking this stuff a while to kick in on you, never the less, I'm glad I waited to pull the trigger on this one.
    It took 6 weeks until HCGenerate truly created a shift in my sexual behavior dynamic enough it could NOT be ignored or denied. It works... my goodness does it work (stares off wistfully into the distance).
  25. antknee
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    Lol, derma and a T booster always kicks in like that for me in 3 days..and right now I'm on day 6 and loving it..

  26. Yeah guys.... please dont misunderstand me I am not knocking anything here.... the blood work will speak for itself and my subjective feeling could be on the money or it could be off for any number of reasons.

    Mr.50

  27. Quote Originally Posted by broons View Post
    True we could both be non responders.
    Are you 2 guys the only ones logging this?

  28. Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Are you 2 guys the only ones logging this?
    I think there are others.... and I really had no intention of logging it.... I just ordered a bottle to try it sometime and then I had some blood work scheduled and the bottle came in the day before..... so I took the blood work in the morning and then took my first dosage....then when I came home that day I saw Broons had started this thread and I sort of unintentionally hijacked it a bit.... (sorry Broons) and then here we are....

    I think there are some actual logs out there but I have not read them to see how they are going. Probably wont until my final opinion is rendered...

    Mr.50

  29. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a 347% increase in testosterone be more noticeable than a minor libido boost?

  30. Quote Originally Posted by hoopem6 View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a 347% increase in testosterone be more noticeable than a minor libido boost?
    exactly. you believe that iforce, in their write up for their product that also contains bulbine, is claiming that it will bring your test levels into the supra range lol. all marketing hype. i used to love test boosters but if you expect more than a bump in libido, some attitude/aggression you have bought into the marketing hype
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