Official Pink Magic Results Thread
- 07-08-2010, 05:33 AM
- 07-15-2010, 08:43 AM
Why is everyones result here on am.com fantastic but over at bb.com everyone is bashing this supp?
I have gone over alot of threads here and there and without any intention to bash myselfe i also find it strange that the positive posts at bb.com are made by people with 2-3 posts.
Trying to figure out if this is worth buing or not?
I like USP products i general,have used almost all of them,didnt get any results from prime dough..
- 07-15-2010, 08:52 AM
07-15-2010, 08:59 AM
Mind and Muscle Board Representative I am not a physician and any advice is solely based on personal experience with various products
07-15-2010, 10:32 AM
So what you all are saying is that PM is for real?
The claims seems abit unreal when you look att the ingredient list,the same with Prime and Prime did nothing for me(used it twice,hade 4 bottles)
My plan was to use PM on a cut for two months,i have several cuts under my belt and have 10+ experience in working out and diet planing.
07-15-2010, 10:34 AM
07-15-2010, 10:42 AM
I ran it (the beta) on a prep so I know it's a crazy repartitioner and you will really lose some fat, however not too low on the carbs as I was getting a little worn out being low. PM is more magic with carbs if you ask me.
07-15-2010, 10:42 AM
iForce Nutrition Sponsored Athlete
07-15-2010, 11:53 AM
Ok,this is to hard,when i look at the ingrediens in PM I dont find it to promissing but i think i will buy two bottles and try it..
07-15-2010, 01:12 PM
07-16-2010, 10:40 AM
Particularly when you said Prime did nothing for you...why fall for the same "trick twice" so to speak? If you're unsure then invest your money elsewhere where you know the ingredients look more promising.
Not trying to knock on usp or PM but its better to be "safe than sorry" as they say rather than just forking out hard earned money onto a supplement that you dont feel will work for you. Hope this helps.
07-19-2010, 03:25 AM
FACT: Try as hard as you want, you won't find a single supplement on AM -- if they are a site sponsor and/or have active reps in the forums -- that has a preponderance of negative reviews.
AM is a great site for training/diet/PH/AAS info but if you want unbiased product reviews, I don't believe AM is the best place for that. My opinion is based purely on the relative absence of negative reviews on AM. The reality is that the majority of supplements should have negative reviews and very few supplements should have overwhelmingly positive reviews.
That's just the real world facts. There are a very few supplements out there that truly lead to better results. And even for those products that "work," the claims made by their manufacturers (huge, amazing, instant results) do not mesh with the reality (they will provide SLIGHTLY better results IF you are busting your ass in the gym and your diet is dialed in).
There's been many a time I've shaken my head at the glowing reviews I read on AM for products that I know don't do a damn thing.
Now I am by no means defending bb.com; I have spent comparatively very little time over there and haven't formed an opinion of the place.
07-19-2010, 08:26 AM
I think the remark about slightly better results is a tad off the mark as well, as far as strength increases there is a few herbal products that have really solid impact. It's true that the size increases are not on par with the other benefits and you do have to be "dialed in" to be able to get what you want. Herbs have come a long way ine last 2 years. They're not as strong as synthetics and likely never will catch up to the stronger products, but they offer a good alternative. I would not have said that 5 years ago.
07-19-2010, 05:35 PM
The man makes an intersting point though. Why is it that there Is not many negative reviews at all, for ANY product on here that has a board sponsor behind it. A little strange.......the odd bad review maybe, but certainly not in line with other sites. I understand the need for some cencorship to keep things civil and productive, but methinks there might be a bit much of it! I applaud him for saying what most of us here agree with but cant be bothered saying, lest all the reps turn on you.
07-19-2010, 06:36 PM
Honestly, while I deeply respect the opportunity this board gives all its members to freely express themselves, the constant non sequitors in these threads serve as an unwarranted distraction to those who may be genuinely interested in the results from this product. Given that this thread happens to be aptly named, "Official Pink Magic Results thread," I assume many of those individuals are indeed reading or attempting to read this thread in hopes of encountering short, succinct feedback based on direct experience with this particular product.
Anabolicminds harbors enough bandwidth and opportunity to create entire threads dedicated to the topic of unnecessary supplementation, your burning hatred toward Pink Magic, and all other such topics of unrest. For those who intended to read this thread for the purpose of deriving contents that are similar to what the name suggests, I would simply ask to direct those comments there.
07-19-2010, 06:48 PM
On with the results then....
07-19-2010, 10:43 PM
07-19-2010, 10:52 PM
07-19-2010, 11:29 PM
And MulletSoldier's "burning hatred" response is exactly what I would expect.
If you want the truth on USP supplements, this is simply not the board for you. That doesn't mean that their supplements are garbage, or that every single opinion on here is compromised... but this is simply the wrong board for unbiased opinion on that particular subject.
07-19-2010, 11:34 PM
07-20-2010, 06:22 AM
Hmmm, Yes you are definitely not allowed to have any negative opinions on USP labs on AM. Problem is BB.com guys are just abnoxious morons, and its all just abuse and poor attempts at humour. Wish there was a happy median somewhere, honest reviews without abuse or teenage crap. I actually think PM is probably good. But there is not ONE bad thing said on here bout it, I mean come on......
07-20-2010, 06:53 AM
Meh, point I am trying to make is I think that <for the most part> the companies on here are legit. Some people push their stuff real hard, but there are a bunch of guys who are not affiliated with a company, Kleen, AG, TG, and several others who are respectable and trustworthy.
I am using the herbal natty stuff as a platform to jump into the PH/AAS dealio, because that stuff is definitely real.
07-20-2010, 09:27 AM
In what ways are people's opinions compromised?
I gave a recent review for Pink Magic and I liked it, along with recommended it. But how am I compromised? At the time I was not attached to any company, and now I am attached to a non-affiliated company.
Are there some people on here who want to kiss ass when they receive a free product? Yes, I am sure there are some. But in reality, you can usually tell who is presenting bull**** info, and who is presenting the real deal. As DW said, learn the style of various posters on here, and learn who you trust. Follow their logs.
I also am all for researching ingredients, I sure do it. But, I think we get alot of "pharmacology all stars" that appear to give their various opinions on how a study should be interpreted, even when they are not qualified in the least bit to interpret it themselves, let alone share their findings.
When it comes down to it, make your own choice. If someone saying the product works was enough for you, then get some Nitro Tech because Cutler is a big dude. If someone saying a product doesnt work is enough for the public, then NitroTech would be out of business. Unfortunately, it doesn't all work like that. Read some logs, research for yourself, then decide if you want to take the product. If you do, and only if you do, then share your feedback on it. This will give an informed opinion to others and maybe a little feedback for the company.
I said it before (I think even in this thread), but Kudos to USP, Pink is a pretty good product.
07-20-2010, 10:05 AM
Now, did it appear as if I singled out "burning hatred toward Pink Magic" in any way to emphasize it, and/or appear as if I am dramatizing the issue? Or rather, did it appear that I was dryly including the phrase to denote how each of those topics - Pink Magic, unnecessary supplementation, etc - simply detract from the topic at hand? Please.
The point of my post, ironically enough, was to elicit more of the "unbiased" commentary you claim is impossible at the expense of non-sequitors about the nature and character of logging in general. Or in more meager terms: this is a results thread, pure and simple. It was a request to keep it that way.
07-20-2010, 11:59 AM
I'm on my second bottle of pink magic and am loving it. This month I'm starting to bulk. I'm about 2 weeks in and 5lbs up. All my major lifts are up as well. I've also noticed increased vascularity in my biceps and shoulders. This is hands down the strongest natural product I've ever used. I really look forward to going to the gym each day.
07-20-2010, 01:07 PM
07-21-2010, 05:17 AM
The problem is that most supplements are crap. They just don't do anything, or they don't do anything of value. But review after review on AM gives glowing praises to every board sponsored product.
When I find a reviewer who thinks most supplements are garbage and gives the occasional positive review, then I'll consider that guy reliable. But as it stands there isn't even one regular logger/reviewer who posts the occasional negative review.
I'm not calling out anyone in particular here. I'm just stating that there is a disconnect on AM between reality and the reviews. Some of you have been around here too long to see it. But I challenge you to think critically for a moment and ask yourself how it's possible that there isn't a single board sponsored product that gets consistently negative reviews. Even a GREAT product will not work for some people but miraculously every time a product is reviewed, it works.
And I assure you that every board sponsor makes at least one crappy, worthless product that doesn't do a damn thing. But you'd never know it on AM.
One could much more credibly say the opposite is true. That if you use a supplement you're more likely to realize that it doesn't do a darn thing. But if you write a review without actually using the product you might believe the marketing propaganda and write a review that reflects the manufacturer's claims.
For the record, I do not believe that AM actually censors reviews (but they might). I just think the culture on AM is to blow hot air up the board sponsors' proverbial asses.
07-21-2010, 05:51 AM
I disagree with the lack of negative posts comment. I have researched many products here on AM and have made decision between two products based on reviews that for the most part have worked out in my favor.
Difference here is a negative review is more cordial and constructive...on bb.com people will out right be immature and condescending. Its actually harder for me to find an accurate review on bb.com then it is here. At bb.com certain supplements they love and rep continuously i have found to be highly ineffective while the ones promoted here have given me the gains i desired.
Yes you see an overwhelming postive opinion here on AM about pink magic b/c users are the ones commenting on it and those who took it like it. IF you look through bb.com the logs are very positive! BUt those who do not take it are forming radical opinions against it. I myself took pink magic and while it was not the best supplement ive ever taken, i cannot out right say it sucks b@lls and will kill you from poisoning. I did not achieve the gains other achieved but it obviously increased my recovery time and decreased the amount of body fat i had. Others recieved much better gains on the beta run but i cannot say it did nothing for me. Also my libido was very very high while running pink magic.
And i do believe there is an overwhelming number of people on bb.com that have an opinion on a product without having taken it.
Also i differ in opinion in that that i do not consider an individual reliable just cause he hates most supplements...i find him reliable based on WHAT supplements he likes. Also if he bashes a supplement...why is he bashing it? IS he comparing it to hormonals? Is he buying into the mob mentality? Is he an overall intense athlete that truly relies on diet and training?
DW is a perfect example...i tell you everything DW has told me that has helped me. His recommendations are always beneficial, and he is a very very experienced athlete. He s an individual you would not consider reliable b/c he throws out more positive reviews then negative ones...yet that man probably through experience and age knows what to take by now and will rarely take something that wont give him results.
DISCLAIMER: Anything that I post on this forum should not be taken as/IS NOT medical advice. All workout programs/protocols, diets,
and/or supplementation NEEDS to be discussed with the appropriate medical professional. Consult your doctor about any health concerns you may have.
07-21-2010, 08:08 AM
I do see what LAGear is talking about "If you can't say No what's your Yes worth". I do believe there is some of that going on here at AM, I also contend that we have created such a good environment that a lot of the products people are taking are actually working for them.
07-21-2010, 10:15 AM
Im heading into my 3rd week on a 6 week run of Pink Magic and i am deffinatley impressed. I am in a bulking phase right now and am very pleased with the product thus far. My muscles are deffinatley harder and fuller, my strength has also increased nicely and it gives a pretty good pump that seems to last for quite awhile. For example 2 weeks ago i could hit the 105 dbs for 8 on the flat bench, last night i got the 110's for 8 and the 115's for five wich is personal best for me. Ive gone up in weight from 325 to 330 after being stalled at 325 for awhile ( im 6'7"). Strength in all lifts is progressing nicely also ive noticed i can push out a few extra reps were previously i would fail, it's like something kicks in out of nowhere and gives you more steam at the end of the set. Is it worth 59$? Sure if you can afford it. Im looking forward to the third week when this stuff apparently really kicks in.
07-21-2010, 04:45 PM
07-21-2010, 05:07 PM
That poor toilet...
07-21-2010, 08:26 PM
07-22-2010, 06:19 AM
07-22-2010, 06:22 AM
Natadrol verses Pink?
07-22-2010, 07:18 AM
07-22-2010, 08:46 AM
AM is different from the other forums, and so are many of the companies here. And there's a unfairness to grouping all supplement companies together. There is the traditional companies that do ads in various magazines and use people like Jay or Dorian or some other mister verse contender to sell product. Those products are mediocre at best with most being almost worthless.
AM companies mostly use a different marketing stategy. I call it the Evangelistic marketing style, and I think that's good. Why is it good? Well the companies here depend on the typical customer to spread the word about their products. People like you DW. This stratagy only works if the product actually does have something good to great about it. Therefore many of the products (not all of course, there are misfires) on AM are much better than the traditional mag ad products.
This is why I hang out on AM and not BB.com, who is still heavily wired to the traditional companies. This is fact was so obvious to me that I had to think about it for a while to remember that AM was the first step in my selection process because of what they represent and the companies they keep. Companies such as UPS Labs, Primordial Performance, and at least a dozen others here are cutting edge IMHO.
07-22-2010, 08:53 AM
07-22-2010, 10:44 AM
But Evangelistic marketing is threatened with several breaking points that will limit companies using it. Size is one. When a company breaks out into larger venues how to keep their integrity?
07-22-2010, 11:24 AM
If you want real unbiased reviews on products mindandmuscle.net Is probably the best place to go. I hear good things about OEP, not many people said it didn't work. Super cissuss got good reviews also. one of the guys over there was chosen to log pink magic and he said he had zero results and the guys over there know there **** and have been around for awhile. My stand is that usplabs does have some great products but the ones that are hyped the most don't seem to do what they claim. I have personal experience with this. I never tried pink magic and probably never will, I've tried pretty much everything else though and powerfull and super cisuss did work for me . If i want something natural to get me stronger and put on a few lbs I would go with DTHC or DTP both made by get diesel. If i were to buy cisuss I would choose usplabs version as it worked well for me.
I may try pink magic for the libido increase when i come off cycle. That won't be for a couple months though as i have a **** load of anavar on its way and plenty of Trasdermal test to last me till the end of my cycle.
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