30-50 lbs on PM o.O? I don't know a TON about this stuff, but even that seems nuts for herbs. I want to see some logs of experienced guys using it, like you I will run a log with it in 6 weeks or so, but honestly I am still in the realm of newbie gains. right now is speeding that up, but I think I need a few more months before I can claim anything more than newbie gains
I've seen guys getting 10 lbs or so pretty regularly on most PHs. I got some PP tbol to try out at a later date to see if its all its cracked up to be (PH not tbol) Hopes are high, and mind definitely has an effect on these things.
I'm still learning, the hard way in some cases, but I agree with you that a lot of stuff dosen't do so much. But I always wonder how much of that is human error, be it genetics or motivation.
I really like philosophy, and have a knack for saying nothing with a lot of words, apologies lol.