Best supplement without 17a-methyl...???

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What is a GOOD mass builder that not toxic to my liver? And can someone explain 5 alpha reductase to me please... (in English =) )
 
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3AD would be a good choice for you. Its a prohormone that will build mass at a nice steady pace and is not liver toxic. RUn AX advanced PCT at the end and youre good to go
 
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thats probably your best bet, its almost like an unmethylated pplex. Pplex is the shiz for mass
 
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are you asking about 5alpha reduced compounds? if so they wont cause gyno because it is already reduced. they can't convert to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme meaning they have been shown not to cause gyno (except for anadrol)
 

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3AD would be a good choice for you. Its a prohormone that will build mass at a nice steady pace and is not liver toxic. RUn AX advanced PCT at the end and youre good to go
How many weeks is the most I should do?
 
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3AD would be a good choice for you. Its a prohormone that will build mass at a nice steady pace and is not liver toxic. RUn AX advanced PCT at the end and youre good to go
Hi.

I am a big fan of 1-4AD by AMS.
I did 6weeks on the mass stack with Decavol.
My log will be at the end of the message.
I believe there stack is 100% solid.

And yes this was a NON Sponsered log.

All supplements were non methalated.
Only side was a low libedo till I started taking the 4-ad.

Worked really well for me.

JP.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/advanced-muscle-science/120278-ams-ultimate-mass.html
 
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3AD would be a good choice for you. Its a prohormone that will build mass at a nice steady pace and is not liver toxic. RUn AX advanced PCT at the end and youre good to go
I know I might get ripped for asking this but...

Does that mean it's ok to drink alcohol every now and then when running
3AD? You know, because it's not liver toxic...
 

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3AD would be a good choice for you. Its a prohormone that will build mass at a nice steady pace and is not liver toxic. RUn AX advanced PCT at the end and youre good to go

how much size should you expect from this?
 
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that depends on how much your willing to eat haha. If you eat over matienance, you could probably keep at least 5lbs after pct
 
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I know I might get ripped for asking this but...

Does that mean it's ok to drink alcohol every now and then when running
3AD? You know, because it's not liver toxic...
No, it does not mean it's ok to drink alcohol. If you're still with the mindset of drinking, specially while on a cycle, then no steroids are for you.

1- It won't be effective. The steroid just won't surpass the crap you get from outside sources if you're drinking
2- It's still a steroid, it'll damage you in other areas.
3- If you're not fully dedicated to this, it seems like the pro hormone is just "an easy way out" and therefore it will not work. It's a steroid, not a miracle pill.

And I think that just by asking that kinda shows that you're not fully ready for a cycle... I'd stop drinking way before even starting a cycle. Just to reach full potential and plateau.
 

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Alcohol and steroids don't mix brother... Well they do but nothing good can come of it!
 

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No, it does not mean it's ok to drink alcohol. If you're still with the mindset of drinking, specially while on a cycle, then no steroids are for you.

1- It won't be effective. The steroid just won't surpass the crap you get from outside sources if you're drinking
2- It's still a steroid, it'll damage you in other areas.
3- If you're not fully dedicated to this, it seems like the pro hormone is just "an easy way out" and therefore it will not work. It's a steroid, not a miracle pill.

And I think that just by asking that kinda shows that you're not fully ready for a cycle... I'd stop drinking way before even starting a cycle. Just to reach full potential and plateau.
yeah, that's why I've never really considered using prohormones. I don't drink a lot, but I like to have a couple of beers on the weekend. I'm not sure that I'll ever be ready to run a ph cycle, just trying to gather some info. thanks brother
 

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One beer won't kill you...but two might. ;) - Seriously, don't mix alcohol and steroids of any kind.
 

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