[3clipseGT]

When I really think of EVERYTHING I take in ed I get in 3000 cals easy with my normal appitite. I mean 1 glass of milk is nearly 200cals itself and I have like 3 ed and milk in my shakes... AP and Pslin recently have made sure I can abuse my lovely carbs while being off cycle and not add extra tubbo.... normally I can only pull that off on cycle.

Yea very true. Since im only logging 3-ad im trying to make sure i dont put fat on but i still need to eat more. After a couple of days i know ill be hungry as hell. Im gonna see how long i can go without a carb up though to get the initial fat water etc off.

[OCCFan023]

Yea very true. Since im only logging 3-ad im trying to make sure i dont put fat on but i still need to eat more. After a couple of days i know ill be hungry as hell. Im gonna see how long i can go without a carb up though to get the initial fat water etc off.

It looks like the others have already noticed an increase in hunger so I'm sure you'll be next lol. So this is going to be a pure CKD (or TKD?) Yea I'm interested if this really helps you cut up with muscle retention or if it leans more towards a mass compound with no fat gain since your diet is nailed down.

[Kevf]

Now that im logging my calories in my book n so forth im coming up short. I wanna be around 2300-2400 on workout days i beleive and 2000 or so on non workout. I was about 800 short today. lol I dont feel hungry though really. Cant anyone point me to where i could get my estimated maintenance cals would be? Thanks a bunch guys.

I've made a very handy excelsheet but I'm not allowed to attach it....where can I upload it?

[UNCnate]

a good estimate is usually current weight * 15 for maintenance cals.

Yep. I too can maintain at a ridiculously low calorie intake. When I start bulking I usually have to double my calories.

[3clipseGT]

It looks like the others have already noticed an increase in hunger so I'm sure you'll be next lol. So this is going to be a pure CKD (or TKD?) Yea I'm interested if this really helps you cut up with muscle retention or if it leans more towards a mass compound with no fat gain since your diet is nailed down.

I get confused with those but basicaly i will have carb ups when i feel needed. Funny thing is, even with this diet, it will be more of a recomp. I can put on mass even when in the lowest calorie restrictions, but i still dont burn fat as fast. So far hunger pains have been kept to a minimum thank god. lol
I can pile away 2 footlongs a drink and a bag of chips if someone let me. Hahah but since notaking everything down and im strait up dialed in right now.

[OCCFan023]

I get confused with those but basicaly i will have carb ups when i feel needed. Funny thing is, even with this diet, it will be more of a recomp. I can put on mass even when in the lowest calorie restrictions, but i still dont burn fat as fast. So far hunger pains have been kept to a minimum thank god. lol
I can pile away 2 footlongs a drink and a bag of chips if someone let me. Hahah but since notaking everything down and im strait up dialed in right now.

Thats crazy man, Id be scared to go near that low of cals but hey if its working let the recomping begin!

[3clipseGT]

Thats crazy man, Id be scared to go near that low of cals but hey if its working let the recomping begin!

Yea i have a couple of buddys that just hate me for it because they have to eat and eat and eat and they think i can just go a month without eating right or workin out come back and id still have all the mass i left with.

As far as the excell sheet goes im not sure where you could upload it, im not computer smart at all. lol

Diet has been perfect today! I will be working out later tonight and will report back then.

[OCCFan023]

Solid genetics ftw right.

I don't think you can upload a spread sheet on here, if you want to send it to him your probably going to have to email it to him is an attachment (gmail is really solid or larger uploads.)

[3clipseGT]

Solid genetics ftw right.

I don't think you can upload a spread sheet on here, if you want to send it to him your probably going to have to email it to him is an attachment (gmail is really solid or larger uploads.)

Yup! Ive never been able to get super super lean before, like im talkin under 10% but with writing everything out im hopin after this run with 3-ad ill be sub 10% at about 190lbs.

[Mr.50]

Yup! Ive never been able to get super super lean before, like im talkin under 10% but with writing everything out im hopin after this run with 3-ad ill be sub 10% at about 190lbs.

Ah 3clipseGT sad to say but you and I sound almost identical, the magic 10% barrier!!!

Mr.50

[3clipseGT]

Ah 3clipseGT sad to say but you and I sound almost identical, the magic 10% barrier!!!

Mr.50

hahah yup! It seems almost impossible but i think this summer im gonna do it. Even if i have to force myself to eat right or something idk but ill fin do it!

Drinkin my whey shake/Pb/fishoil/sesamin before workout. Chest tonight!

[UNCnate]

hahah yup! It seems almost impossible but i think this summer im gonna do it. Even if i have to force myself to eat right or something idk but ill fin do it!

Drinkin my whey shake/Pb/fishoil/sesamin before workout. Chest tonight!

You'll get there. I have a feeling 3-AD might just help ya out there.

[3clipseGT]

You'll get there. I have a feeling 3-AD might just help ya out there.

Im hopin so!

[3clipseGT]

Day 2:

Diet:
Meal 1: 8oz chicken with cheese on it, broccoli, 1 scoop PB, sesamin dosed my 2 caps 3-ad at this meal
Meal 2: 8oz chicken with cheese on it, broccoli, 1 scoop PB
Meal 3: 2 scoops whey ,2 scoops PB, sesamin, 2 caps 3-ad. There was about 6 hours between doses as a FYI.
Meal 4: PWO meal 2 scoops whey in water
Meal 5: Not yet made but looks like, 6 eggwhites 3 whole eggs, cheese, sesamin.

Workout: Chest

Incline DB:65x12,75,10,85x8
Hammer Strength Flat:145x11,180x8,180x8,145x7 The last set between 180 and 145 was a dropset.
Incline HS:90x12,110x12,140x12
Seated Dips:110x20,160x12,160x15
PecDec:130x15,150x10,150x9

Thoughts/Comments:

Workout was good. Great pump and mind muscle connection was there. A little bit of a headache after my 2nd dose but it gradualy is subsiding. People can definately tell i am pumped as they say i look bigger. Now i dont attribute this to 3-ad yet, but i always pump up pretty good. Hunger these last couple of hours after the last dose have ramped up a tad. Ill try and controll it! Meals have been pretty dead on outside of todays first 2 meals. Tomorrow im up early so i should be able to get 6 meals in.

[poopypants]

I wonder is anyoen planning on taking full advantage of these hunger pangs??? Id love to see wht this does on a bulk.

[3clipseGT]

I wonder is anyoen planning on taking full advantage of these hunger pangs??? Id love to see wht this does on a bulk.

Honestly there is a very good possiblity this may turn into a bulk for me. LOL Ill keep it clean but ill go crazy!

[boxmeman]

Honestly there is a very good possiblity this may turn into a bulk for me. LOL Ill keep it clean but ill go crazy!

nice work!

[poopypants]

Honestly there is a very good possiblity this may turn into a bulk for me. LOL Ill keep it clean but ill go crazy!

nonono... dont do that

Lets hope reverse psychology works

[3clipseGT]

nonono... dont do that

Lets hope reverse psychology works

Haha i just do what the 3-ad tells me to do!!

[poopypants]

its sayin... "lets clean bulk this mother 3clipse... comeon lemme show you my POWER!!!!"

[3clipseGT]

its sayin... "lets clean bulk this mother 3clipse... comeon lemme show you my POWER!!!!"

Hahahha it talks to me everytime i open the bottle!

[SilentBob187]

Hahahha it talks to me everytime i open the bottle!

Feed me Seymour!

[3clipseGT]

Had my carbup meal today. It was a footlong + 6 inch tuna on italian herbs and cheese with a grab bag of doritos. Finished it all!

Other then that diets been perfect!

Tonights workout is legs/shoulders. Ill report back later!

[boxmeman]

Had my carbup meal today. It was a footlong + 6 inch tuna on italian herbs and cheese with a grab bag of doritos. Finished it all!

Other then that diets been perfect!

Tonights workout is legs/shoulders. Ill report back later!

lol wholly crap nice meal

[3clipseGT]

lol wholly crap nice meal

Yea i can put some food back. That was a nice amount of tuna on both subs cheese bread lettuce and tomato. I have no idea how many cals this was but im sure atleast 800-1000. Guestimating.