[jjohn]

Originally Posted by nycste

as long as DOMS are there cissuss can be continued huh?

so i was taking 3g bulk cissus and i can continue with it or should i take less then 3g maybe 1.5g?

Well, I would do it like this:

-Wait until XF kicks in (DOMS are a good indication)
-See if your joints are in pain
-If so, take in 1.5 g.
-Monitor your DOMS, see if you still get them
-If so, you're good to go
-If not, I would cease the use of Cissus(I doubt this will happen though)

[Cellardude]

Originally Posted by jjohn

Well, I would do it like this:

-Wait until XF kicks in (DOMS are a good indication)
-See if your joints are in pain
-If so, take in 1.5 g.
-Monitor your DOMS, see if you still get them
-If so, you're good to go
-If not, I would cease the use of Cissus(I doubt this will happen though)

the DOMS is definately there. Im not sure if I can squat today, The way you extend your arms to hold up the bar, you get that feeling in your chest from it being stretched. It burned like crazy without X-Factor, it's gonna hurt like hell today.

[EasyEJL]

I'm not getting doms per se, but i am getting sort of pumps that last thru my off days. a tight/full sort of feeling. like pumps, but not really with soreness, just tightness. not sure what to call them

[jjohn]

Originally Posted by Cellardude

the DOMS is definately there. Im not sure if I can squat today, The way you extend your arms to hold up the bar, you get that feeling in your chest from it being stretched. It burned like crazy without X-Factor, it's gonna hurt like hell today.

Good stuff! That's how I like it!!

[nycste]

Originally Posted by jjohn

Well, I would do it like this:

-Wait until XF kicks in (DOMS are a good indication)
-See if your joints are in pain
-If so, take in 1.5 g.
-Monitor your DOMS, see if you still get them
-If so, you're good to go
-If not, I would cease the use of Cissus(I doubt this will happen though)

OK. well no DOMS for me other then my legs being dead from my PR high rep workout 2 days ago.. not blaming that on xfactor but maybe

[jjohn]

Originally Posted by nycste

OK. well no DOMS for me other then my legs being dead from my PR high rep workout 2 days ago.. not blaming that on xfactor but maybe

Cool, I would wait at about day 25 then. Do you usually get DOMS?

[nycste]

Originally Posted by jjohn

Cool, I would wait at about day 25 then. Do you usually get DOMS?

every so often, sometimes not at all, sometimes a lot, so hard to predict

[jjohn]

Originally Posted by nycste

every so often, sometimes not at all, sometimes a lot, so hard to predict

Best thing to do (objective) is to get sore the next day. This is when you will see a HUGE impact on soreness.

[Cellardude]

Day 18

Workout

Legs

Squats
135x10
185x8
235x6
285x6
305x2

Deadlifts
135x10
185x8
235x4
285x2
305x1

Leg Press
270x8
360x8
450x6

Calfs

Sitting Calf Raise
50x15
50x15
50x15
50x15
50x15

Standing Calf Raise
200x15
200x15
200x15
200x15

Comments

Today was leg day for me. Also today was my first workout on Drive at 4 caps. I wanted to see how accurate Dirk's cAMP loading phase theory worked. I took 2 caps in the morning and 2 caps in the afternoon prior to my workout with RPM and X-Factor. Let me tell you boys and girls, after about an hour from the 2 RPM caps and 2 Drive caps I had a sense of well being. I felt good. Nothing too crazy, but a sense of well being was felt. I like this because some days you just don't feel like hitting the gym. With this feeling you feel an overall sense of focus and harmony. That's the best way I can really put the feeling down in words. Anyway, Lifts were up endurance wise. I didnt attempt to go crazy crazy on the weights because I was killing myself in the endurance department already. Squats today were a bit difficult. My chest burns like a biatch from the X-Factor. DOMS all over my chest, it hurt to extend my arms to hold up the barbell. You all know what I mean! Anyway, Great endurance, Everything burns like crazy. I feel like im going to die from DOMS tomorrow morning. Ill be on crutches from DOMS. It's really starting to kick in harder and harder. Im getting close to finishing my bottle and I cant wait for it to start kicking in. It will be great. Anyway Ill keep you all posted.





Highlights

• Sense of well being
• Delayed onset muscle soreness
• Excellent elevated endurance
• Increased pumps
• Weird feeling of joints after lift
  

Mood:Pumped and focused!

Workout Rating 10/10
Endurance 10/10
Pumps 10/10

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[nycste]

Originally Posted by jjohn

Best thing to do (objective) is to get sore the next day. This is when you will see a HUGE impact on soreness.

honestly have no idea what you just said there lol please repeat

and CELLAR

great workout bro

sucks your DOMS are soo serious i got none yet, just my legs are dead from my squats on weds dont think its xfactor they almost back to normal

cellar please seperate your comments alittle lol makes it easier to read in my opinion change only if you want of course !!

keep up the good work

[jjohn]

Originally Posted by nycste

honestly have no idea what you just said there lol please repeat

and CELLAR

great workout bro

sucks your DOMS are soo serious i got none yet, just my legs are dead from my squats on weds dont think its xfactor they almost back to normal

cellar please seperate your comments alittle lol makes it easier to read in my opinion change only if you want of course !!

keep up the good work

Okay lol. Here's how I prepare for my cycle:

I train, monitor all my lifts as always, and see if I am sore the next day, if not, I crank up the intensity. Then if I am sore after all my workouts of the week, I start XF, and keep the intensity up like I did. Sometimes you don't realise you lose some drive once in a while. Hope this was clearer lol.

[Cellardude]

Originally Posted by nycste

honestly have no idea what you just said there lol please repeat

and CELLAR

great workout bro

sucks your DOMS are soo serious i got none yet, just my legs are dead from my squats on weds dont think its xfactor they almost back to normal

cellar please seperate your comments alittle lol makes it easier to read in my opinion change only if you want of course !!

keep up the good work

gotcha. Ill seperate them into paragraphs for easier reading. I honestly dont like reading a cluster of words too. Makes it very unappealing to read. Ill remember to make my thing easier to read. The more views the better for me.

[Cellardude]

Originally Posted by nycste

honestly have no idea what you just said there lol please repeat

and CELLAR

great workout bro

sucks your DOMS are soo serious i got none yet, just my legs are dead from my squats on weds dont think its xfactor they almost back to normal

cellar please seperate your comments alittle lol makes it easier to read in my opinion change only if you want of course !!

keep up the good work

nyc, you didnt notice any DOMS within day 10? I started noticing slightly heavier DOMS after day 10.

[nycste]

Originally Posted by Cellardude

nyc, you didnt notice any DOMS within day 10? I started noticing slightly heavier DOMS after day 10.

honestly no. but im also on DC TRAINING. none of you are. its a totally diff workout routine.