Nabisco's Unnatural Transformation (PP/Epi/Form TD STACK)

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  1. you might try the new cissusdrol, sinner seems to like it and you get cissus/6-bromo in one. nothing like saving a buck.:burg:
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID


  2. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    you might try the new cissusdrol, sinner seems to like it and you get cissus/6-bromo in one. nothing like saving a buck.:burg:
    Ill vouche for this. Im using it in my pct. Sense of well being is awesome. Joint/ligaments are better than on cycle with bulk cissus. Strength continues to go up. Sex drive goes up. Overall good stuff.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Nabisco View Post
    I can max about 235 ( ) right now, which is sadly depressing. I can't for the life of me seem to get past this plateau, so i was going to hit heavy dbs for a couple of workouts.
    Whats your entire routine look like? Whats your specific chest day look like?

  4. I've been doing the same thing for chest for about 3 weeks now. Trying hard to build some much lacking mass and strength in my chest, which I feel is my weakest body part.

    I'll have to check out Cissusdrol. Thanks bros.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Nabisco View Post
    I've been doing the same thing for chest for about 3 weeks now. Trying hard to build some much lacking mass and strength in my chest, which I feel is my weakest body part.

    I'll have to check out Cissusdrol. Thanks bros.
    Dont ever do the same exercise 2 weeks in a row. Do bb bench press wk 1, db bench wk 2, bb bench wk 3, etc. Your muscles get accustomed to the same w/o and you stop gaining.
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  6. Oh, as far as the supplementation...If you want 6-bromo and a cort blocker and a test booster, look into ALRI Restore.

    I am actually on it right now and loving it. I actually think I'm turning into a 6-bromo addict, everytime I use the stuff i am in the best mood.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by metroba View Post
    Dont ever do the same exercise 2 weeks in a row. Do bb bench press wk 1, db bench wk 2, bb bench wk 3, etc. Your muscles get accustomed to the same w/o and you stop gaining.
    Not necessarily.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    Not necessarily.
    just my opinion. I dont get any stronger by doing the same thing 2 weeks in a row. When I change it up I my strength goes up. Whats your reasoning pi?

  9. Entire routine is posted as a word document at the beginning of the cycle. Its a variation of Arnold's beginners workout, focused mainly on strength and mass building with lots of compound exercises. Meanwhile, here is the chest workout.

    BB Bench Press
    20reps, 10reps, 5reps, 3reps, 1-2reps x 5

    Incline BB Press
    12, 8, 6

    Flys (I vary between flat, incline, and decline each workout)
    12, 8, 6

    DB Pullovers
    12, 8, 6

    Then back exercises are on the same day

    Chinups, Bentover Rows, Deadlifts

  10. Nabisco, you are coming lose to overtraining, even on gear.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by metroba View Post
    just my opinion. I dont get any stronger by doing the same thing 2 weeks in a row. When I change it up I my strength goes up. Whats your reasoning pi?
    I agree with you here. 2-3 workouts in a row, no progression, no major changes in your life/diet/supp/etc. then I would most def. change things around.

    I guess I misunderstood you before.

  12. Any suggestions on what to cut out/switch up? I didn't think that i was putting too much volume in there.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Nabisco View Post
    Any suggestions on what to cut out/switch up? I didn't think that i was putting too much volume in there.
    when i was starting to bench 225 and got 2-3 reps max

    then got 4-5 some days i was soo pumped ya know what i did sent my body into shock

    i did 10 sets of 3 reps at 205 then slowly bumped it up to 225

    then i was doing 235x3 and 245x3 and i think thats where it stopped it was sick the weight was so easy. something to think about

  14. Quote Originally Posted by nycste View Post
    when i was starting to bench 225 and got 2-3 reps max

    then got 4-5 some days i was soo pumped ya know what i did sent my body into shock

    i did 10 sets of 3 reps at 205 then slowly bumped it up to 225

    then i was doing 235x3 and 245x3 and i think thats where it stopped it was sick the weight was so easy. something to think about
    I tried this while I was on epi and it works very well.

  15. So you just took a chest day and did 10 sets of 3 reps at 205? What do you mean by slowly bumped it up to 225? I just want to make sure I'm on the same page. So you do 10 sets of 3 reps at 205, then next day do 10 sets of 3 reps at 210? then 215? and so on?

  16. no each chest w/o. not good long term but to get your bench up its a good one.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Nabisco View Post
    So you just took a chest day and did 10 sets of 3 reps at 205? What do you mean by slowly bumped it up to 225? I just want to make sure I'm on the same page. So you do 10 sets of 3 reps at 205, then next day do 10 sets of 3 reps at 210? then 215? and so on?
    Bench Press
    (week 1) 225x3,3,3 235x3,3 245x3,3,3,3,3
    (week 2) 225x3,3 235x3,3 245x3,3,3,3 225x 3(A)
    (week 3) 225x4,4,4,4,4,4,4 275x1 (died on 2)

    found part of my old log cannot find the actual full workouts but thats an example of what i did.. dont remmeber what my maxes were then or anything. and i would imagine my breaks for these were short cuz only doing 2-3 reps not max isnt that hard

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  19. Day 11


    Well now, no changes with dosing. Was a little off on my diet today, went out to lunch with some co-workers and had Indian food (buffet style). Heavy in carbs, a little light on protein and probably fairly fatty (the sauces were creamy). But other than that stuck to chicken, rice, and veggies, along with my breakfast of 6 egg whites, 2 eggs, and 2 pieces of whole wheat toast, with one scoop whey in milk. So my calories were definitely up today. Was afraid that cheat meal today would adversely affect my lift, but let me tell you WOW. Today was the best lift yet, so lets get right to it.

    Workout:

    DB Bench Press
    75x12, 85x8, 100x2 (PR!) I've never even thought of touching the 100's before. This had me really pumped.

    Weighted Decline Ab Crunches
    15x10, 25x10, 25x8, 25x7, 25x5

    Incline DB Bench Press
    60x12, 70x8, 80x6 (PR!) The strength was through the roof today.

    Decline DB Flys
    30x12, 40x8, 40x6 (with extra low stretch)

    Chinups
    BWx12, BWx10, BWx10, BWx8, BWx6, BWx4

    One arm Bent over DB Rows
    60x12, 70x8, 80x6

    Deadlifts (heavy set)
    225x10, 275x6, 315x4 (PR) I was strapped in for the 315, but I feel like I could have gone higher. But I was stoked about 315 for 4.

    Overall, best workout yet without a shadow of a doubt. Strength through the roof, 3 PRs in one day. I was high as a kite leaving the gym. My lifting partner (who doesnt know Im on gear) was absolutely blown away. Even some of the larger guys in the gym said something about my 315x4 for deads. Because compared to them Im tiny, hahaha.

    Mood: Fantastic, but the awesome lift helped.
    Libido: No noticeable change
    Energy: Very good all day
    Endurance: Excellent, getting better through my workouts
    Joints: Shoulder twinged a little when I dropped the 100s after my last set, but otherwise fine.
    Pumps: I felt swole today in the gym. Like my back and chest were popping out of my clothes, swole. I felt like I should look like someone twice my size
    Weight: Will weigh in on Saturday (Day 13) Hope to crest the 190 mark and if I don't Im hogging down mucho calories this weekend.

    To the feeling you get after an awesome day in the gym

  20. i hope thats protein in them mugs great job.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  21. Thanks man, its always a great feeling knowing you're getting bigger, better, and stronger. And yeah, thats my post wo shake...whey, cycle support, and ground up oats. Although beer would give me some simple carbs

  22. My guess is the high GI/carb content of your buffet had a lot to do with the awesome workout. I always get the best pumps after a meal with some extra zing in it. You get the hydration, and glycogen loading of the carbs working and all just goes great.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  23. im to lazy to check all your workouts but sometimes it would be cool to switch your rep tempo

    instead of doing
    easy weight x 12 mid weight x8 heavy weight x1-5

    try
    warmup x15 easy weight x3 mid x2 max x WHATEVER...

    just some food for thought. either way CONGRATZ on moving the 100s woot. i will secretly add you to the 100lb db club. dont tell anyone else.


    o yea. ps. if you think eating one indian food mean is a cheat meal. u really gotta losen up bro haha

  24. agree with nycste and pr on the indian food. I eat indian food all the time and Im losing fat at the same time. Its not that bad. Wow! 100lb on db bench. Id rep you again but it wont let me. Nice work!

  25. Day 12


    Skipped out of work at lunch time and hit the gym. Its friday, my boss is gone, and I have stuff to do after work. So obviously I was running on fewer calories than I normally have before I lift, but other than that, same old same old. On to the workout!

    Workout:

    Light Shoulders today to get back into it

    DB Shoulder Press
    50x12, 55x8, 60x6

    Front/Side/Rear Lat Raises
    25x10, 25x10, 25x10

    Standing Military BB press
    95x10, 95x8, 95x7

    Standing BB Curls
    95x8, 95x5, 95x4, 65x10

    Concentration Curls
    35x5, 30x8, 30x6

    Skull crushers
    65x12, 75x8, 85x6

    Pulldowns
    95x12, 100x8, 110x8

    Felt like my biceps could use a little more...

    Standing Cable Curls
    40x15, 45x10, 50x8

    Overall, good workout. I'm going to really focus in the upcoming arm workouts on really blasting my triceps, and really focus on the contraction for biceps. Again, today had that awesome fullness all throughout the workout. Like my muscles are bigger...not pumped...just...bigger. Its hard to explain. Its not anything like the pumps you get on NO products or creatine. Just a good solid full/tight feeling.

    Mood: Angry day...work related, but an angry day all around.
    Libido: No noticeable change
    Energy: Very good all day
    Endurance: unlimited during workouts it seems
    Joints: Shoulder felt better working it today. It still pops every now and then, but no pain associated with it.
    Pumps: Same full/tight feeling as yesterday...I LOVE it
    Weight: Will weigh in on Saturday (Day 13)

    Looking much fuller in the mirror at the gym today. Will post pictures two mondays from now which will be the end of the PP and the second week of Epi...ie the midway point of the cycle.

  26. Final order from Nutraplanet.com today.

    10lb ON Whey
    4lb ON Casein
    NOW Fish Oil Capsules
    Retain 2
    PowerFULL
    Super Cissus Rx
    Poseidon

    Total: $250

    Cycle Total: $600+

  27. Man needs his protein.

    Looks like your getting what I like to referr to as contractile pumps(or dry pumps), where everything seems to always be in a semi contracted state. It's a pretty good feeling man, and really helps push those workouts even more. Sounds like it's working it's magic for ya man.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  28. Day 13


    Its the weekend finally. Got an early night in last night, slept in this morning. Woke feeling refreshed and surprisingly not very sore or tight. Hit the gym at 3 today with only two square meals under my belt (since I slept in).

    Workout


    Hanging Oblique Raises
    BWx10, BWx10, BWx10, BWx10, BWx10

    Squats (felt like going heavy today)
    225x6, 255x5, 275x3

    Leg Extensions
    140x12, 155x8, 170x6

    Leg Curls
    100x12, 110x8, 120x6

    Calf Raises
    250x15, 270x15, 290x12, 310x12, 330x10

    SLDLs
    135x10, 165x6, 185x4

    Goodmornings
    65x10, 85x6, 95x4

    15 minutes of brisk walking. Only downside is I completely forgot to weigh in today, so I'll have to wait until Monday's workout.

    Mood: Subdued, Im still dealing with work issues from yesterday.
    Libido: I think I've completely lost libido...it seems I have no desire to go out and hunt up some chicks. So I'm forcing myself out tonight with a buddy of mine.
    Energy: Good, constant energy
    Endurance: Still mighty good during workouts
    Joints: No issues, I think the cissus from Incarnate is helping my knees and shoulders.
    Pumps: Slight pumps after my Leg extensions
    Weight: Forgot, will weigh in Monday.

    Just waiting for my protein to get here...I have a feeling I'll run out today. I shouldn't have waited this long to order...but oh well Nutra delivers fast.

    Tomorrow is my last day of solo PP. Starting Monday I will be increasing the dosage of Form TD to 80mg/day, PP will stay constant at 30mg for the first few days, then drop to 20 mg for the rest of the week. The epistane will start monday at 10mg, and will ramp up to 20mg as soon as the pp drops to 20 mg for the rest of the week. So we'll see how well my body transitions from one to the other, and what differences I'll see. Until monday gents.

  29. cant run out of the protein. in cases of emergency i go to wal-mart and get the six star brand. its only $15 and i think its made by same people who make muscle tech. it really aint to bad.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID
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