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    i believe he is adding FX in....

    I am using clomid, nolva, FX, HD, DHEA, and Retain! 6 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    i believe he is adding FX in....

    I am using clomid, nolva, FX, HD, DHEA, and Retain! 6 weeks.
    Assuming similar dose and length of the cycle of epi?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Crockett View Post
    Assuming similar dose and length of the cycle of epi?
    i used PP and then bridged into HAVOC. did HAVOC for 4 weeks at 30mg and 40 the last week. 8 weeks total!

    i talked quite a bit to mmowry and our PCTs were VERY similar. not sure exactly what he is doing now, though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    i used PP and then bridged into HAVOC. did HAVOC for 4 weeks at 30mg and 40 the last week. 8 weeks total!

    i talked quite a bit to mmowry and our PCTs were VERY similar. not sure exactly what he is doing now, though!
    This is helpful-thanks.
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    Yeah Im running MFX 2,4,4,6 and other than recovery is going even faster than Id hoped not much to report.This is my down week from 12wks training so no comment s on strength but Ill be lifting next wk and then well get some strength/BW observations.


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    what do you do on down weeks? Nothing? cardio?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry View Post
    Yeah Im running MFX 2,4,4,6 and other than recovery is going even faster than Id hoped not much to report.This is my down week from 12wks training so no comment s on strength but Ill be lifting next wk and then well get some strength/BW observations.
    Ok-thanks. I wanted to clarify if the level of post cycle therapy would be similar to other compounds,since epi is suppose to be easier on the gonads -so I am prepared.

    Looking forward to next weeks stats.
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    I wonder if I could get away with High dosing DHEA while on Epi...Think I'll save that for cycle 2.
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    I bet that would be pretty interesting..I might toy with that.
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    rampage, i am going to pulse epi while doing the 12 week FX, HD, Retain cycle!
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    i think ive read somewhere that dosing dhea is a good idea with ep. i think it might of been on bb.com
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    i can't see the downfall to doing it.....

    epi blocks your estrogen, so adding a test booster would seem to be REALLY good and enhance gains....
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    epi and turinadrol


    as soon as my shoulder heals, I am going to run a 6 week cycle of turinadrol and epi. I will add the epi at the beggining of week 3 and be on that only, for the last two weeks of my cycle. :good: go hard or go home
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    Quote Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    i can't see the downfall to doing it.....

    epi blocks your estrogen, so adding a test booster would seem to be REALLY good and enhance gains....
    now tells me, when you take a supp like epi or any other ph for that matter your body usually usses that in place of test and tends to downregulate test production, so you think you can negate that effect with just DHEA??? do you think youd actually be able to "boost" your test levels or do you suppose it would just manage to keep them at the norm??? either way sounds very interesting... but am i mistaken when i say DHEA has the ability to turn into est as well..... guess it wouldnt be a prob anyways with epi... hmmm me thinks it still might be a good idea
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    i'm thinking more along the lines of a test booster like MassFX, but DHEA would be a cheap method to try....

    anyone care to let us know?
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    Well with the possibility of the DHEA being converted to test and MassFX keeping it free test that sounds like a winner.Also with Epis ability to stave off estros neg effects and keep the positive that sounds like a plus also!


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    Quote Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    i'm thinking more along the lines of a test booster like MassFX, but DHEA would be a cheap method to try....

    anyone care to let us know?
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    although if it woud compromise the est blocking gyno destroyin effects id opt not to ... wish D would let me know what he thought the possible effects might be from doing so before id try, can someone get him to chime in...
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    Quote Originally Posted by haiz69 View Post
    What exactly is this? I was a very fat child and have battled with puberty induced gyno all of my life. Is this safe for a 19 year old?
    bump to that.. i am in a somewhat same situation.. im 18 i was a bit chubby when i was younger now my bodyfat is pretty low 9-10% and i still have puffy nipples which i strongly believe is from puberty so is this safe since it doesnt shut u down nearly as bad as any other prohormones.. if i do take it ill def have the proper pct and support supps with it
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    ya i just got my Torem, BEFORE i got my epi. ATD allready in the bag too.
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    i notified, d.....

    i assume when he gets a free moment, he will chime in.....

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    NNNNIIIICCCCEEEE thanks mac
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    anything for someone BOLD enough to put poopy in their screenname!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattyh7688 View Post
    bump to that.. i am in a somewhat same situation.. im 18 i was a bit chubby when i was younger now my bodyfat is pretty low 9-10% and i still have puffy nipples which i strongly believe is from puberty so is this safe since it doesnt shut u down nearly as bad as any other prohormones.. if i do take it ill def have the proper post cycle therapy and support supps with it
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahright View Post
    No....and discussing such things will get you banned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    anything for someone BOLD enough to put poopy in their screenname!
    YEAHYA! err day, err day lol... i need a life.... wait i didnt like my old one , this is better ill stay here.
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    sorry about that.... really did not mean to break any of the rules
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    sorry about that.... really did not mean to break any of the rules
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    hey matty, maybe you should take a sec and actually go read them.....

    then you don't have to worry about that again!
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    haha ok i did.. ill learn next time.. stupid me not reading forum stickies and rules.. i should know better
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    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    although if it woud compromise the est blocking gyno destroyin effects id opt not to ... wish D would let me know what he thought the possible effects might be from doing so before id try, can someone get him to chime in...
    I think DHEA/MFX/Epi would stack very well. The only prob I could foresee would possibly be exaggerated acne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    I think DHEA/MFX/Epi would stack very well. The only prob I could foresee would possibly be exaggerated acne.

    I could live with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Crockett View Post
    I could live with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    I think DHEA/MFX/Epi would stack very well. The only prob I could foresee would possibly be exaggerated acne.
    So no need to wait for pct to start taking MFX?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahright View Post
    So no need to wait for post cycle therapy to start taking MFX?
    Well, I would certainly prefer to save it for PCT if I had to choose one or the other! I can't imagine the horrors of another P.C.T. (Pissy Crappy Time) without a clean bridger like MFX. Or, you can time it to get it in twice. MFX is good for about 8wks straight before it plays out completely but it's strongest in the first 6wks. Therefore, you could run it up to 6wks at the front of a cycle, then skip 2wks and the effect will be refreshed to run it again later like in PCT.
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    hmmmm very tempting, thanks for the input DR D as always its aprecciated. i think ill go with the DHEA only while on cycle as it is very cheap and easily obtained and ill be using the FX bridged across the last week and into the 4 of PCT (as you said 6 weeks Strong) along with cissus throughout and powerfull PCT only..... now i just need that epi to get here and place a couple orders for some bulk supps...... YUM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    hmmmm very tempting, thanks for the input DR D as always its aprecciated. i think ill go with the DHEA only while on cycle as it is very cheap and easily obtained and ill be using the FX bridged across the last week and into the 4 of post cycle therapy (as you said 6 weeks Strong) along with cissus throughout and powerfull PCT only..... now i just need that epi to get here and place a couple orders for some bulk supps...... YUM.
    What bulking supps are you going to take?
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    he meant supplements IN BULK! like 10g of glutamine.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    Well, I would certainly prefer to save it for post cycle therapy if I had to choose one or the other! I can't imagine the horrors of another P.C.T. (Pissy Crappy Time) without a clean bridger like MFX. Or, you can time it to get it in twice. MFX is good for about 8wks straight before it plays out completely but it's strongest in the first 6wks. Therefore, you could run it up to 6wks at the front of a cycle, then skip 2wks and the effect will be refreshed to run it again later like in PCT.
    I was thinking of starting it plus dhea in the last week of a 30 day epi/zol cycle to bridge into pct continuing it through the 30 day pct. A waste or an interesting idea?
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    VERY good idea!

    i am currently using FX as part of my PCT of Havoc and wish i had started a week earlier to get the full effects of FX (takes about 3 days to kick in). I am at the end of my first week of PCT and the boys are nearly back to original size!

    YR, start your last week at 2 pills per day about 30 minutes before your workout, on non-workout days take 2 spread out....
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