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    Well I wont pulse the Epi indefinately Im not that wreckless but Ill stay on as low a dose AI as possible.

    The Epi is supposed to have far reaching estro supression so I may just get what I need to combat a flare up and keep it on the ready but Im not sure yet though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry
    Well I wont pulse the Epi indefinately Im not that wreckless but Ill stay on as low a dose AI as possible.

    The Epi is supposed to have far reaching estro supression so I may just get what I need to combat a flare up and keep it on the ready but Im not sure yet though.
    Man I would love to see how Epi works when pulsed on workout days at say 20mg. Would be very interesting to see for sure. Although it may be wiser to possibly use 20mg only on days that require intensity and maybe 10mg on other days to prevent shutdown but I am hoping someone will run it in this way and report their findings on how it suppressed them, if at all .
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    mmowry:
    Your log has convinced me to do some research on epistane and now I gotta have it!! Couple questions though I wanted to get the formestane over at nutra planet and make a transdermal out of it and im going to run with the epi in 2 week cycles. How long in between should I run the two. I dont think I can run epi for two weeks then bridge it over with formestane till the next cycle but I may be wrong. Thanks alot real excited for a new gyno killer!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsouth
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    Your log has convinced me to do some research on epistane and now I gotta have it!! Couple questions though I wanted to get the formestane over at nutra planet and make a transdermal out of it and im going to run with the epi in 2 week cycles. How long in between should I run the two. I dont think I can run epi for two weeks then bridge it over with formestane till the next cycle but I may be wrong. Thanks alot real excited for a new gyno killer!!
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    J I dont see why you couldnt bridge it as the form is an AI so it would keep your remaining test from converting to estro but it may not be the best use for it.Myself I would save the form for a run by itself later on after youre done with the EPI entirely and youre back at full test productionbut thats me.

    Ill weigh myself this weekend and today I had another 10lb jump in incline bench and finished all sets with more weight and finished STRONG.


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    Got mine today took my first two doses!
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    MMOWRY: Hows it looking I just ordered two bottles of the Epistane so im curious to see your results.
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    Epistane is made by IBE, but who's the Havoc made by?

    Mmwory, do you not think your massive strength increases are due to your long lay off? - muscle memory etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyne View Post
    Epistane is made by IBE, but who's the Havoc made by?

    Mmwory, do you not think your massive strength increases are due to your long lay off? - muscle memory etc
    RPN

    Are you being serious about the strength question lol?
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    Mmwory,

    Non-related question: Are you a "Friend of Bill's"? Sober?
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    man i am loving this stuff im keto and looking fuller and i cant wait to hit the gym only a week in.noticing heightened agression tho..on 30mgs..i am def investing in more..im running havoc
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    the aggression is def there, i am also running havoc
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    good stuff going to order a few more bottles to stack with my stockpile..lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblu View Post
    Mmwory,

    Non-related question: Are you a "Friend of Bill's"? Sober?
    I dont understand this friend of Bills question.And Sober means Ive had some dependency issues in the very distant past.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry View Post
    I dont understand this friend of Bills question.And Sober means Ive had some dependency issues in the very distant past.
    Maybe he meant Bill, as in Bill Phillips. MM are you a sober body-for-lifer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    Maybe he meant Bill, as in Bill Phillips. MM are you a sober body-for-lifer.
    Well I havent even had a drink in around 4 yrs so Im a lifer.LOL
    The negative connotations far outweigh the momentary pleasure of being altered on ANY substance including alcohol.Now Im just a supp junky.

    BTW bodyweight has droped 1lb but Im leaning out and Ive added in a few other things to my regimen.

    Strength is still increasing as Ive jumped another 20lbs on my box squat and boy do my butt cheeks know it.LOL

    All lifts are up no negative sides.Feeling good and working good in EVERY AREA!

    Im bumping up to 40mg for 3wks or until my supply runs out.Updates following.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry View Post
    Well I havent even had a drink in around 4 yrs so Im a lifer.LOL
    The negative connotations far outweigh the momentary pleasure of being altered on ANY substance including alcohol.Now Im just a supp junky.

    BTW bodyweight has droped 1lb but Im leaning out and Ive added in a few other things to my regimen.

    Strength is still increasing as Ive jumped another 20lbs on my box squat and boy do my butt cheeks know it.LOL

    All lifts are up no negative sides.Feeling good and working good in EVERY AREA!

    Im bumping up to 40mg for 3wks or until my supply runs out.Updates following.

    What week are you on right now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyne View Post
    Epistane is made by IBE, but who's the Havoc made by?

    Mmwory, do you not think your massive strength increases are due to your long lay off? - muscle memory etc
    Well I was starting to stagnate on my lifts before running the Epi.Muscle memory may have a small role to play but that being said the Epi kicked my strength back into high gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LakeMountD View Post
    What week are you on right now?
    Im on wk 4 and no I dont advise ANYONE to do what Im doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry View Post
    Im on wk 4 and no I dont advise ANYONE to do what Im doing.
    Yeah in Week 4 actually when I added a heavy cardio day my weight stayed static and my lifts jumped CONSIDERABLY. Wierd .
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    Quote Originally Posted by LakeMountD View Post
    Yeah in Week 4 actually when I added a heavy cardio day my weight stayed static and my lifts jumped CONSIDERABLY. Wierd .
    Well Im now running Ectotropin and tomorrow Ill start IGF 1 @50mcg so we'll start to see some more fat goin by bye.

    Im also planning another run of Epi 2 months or so after this run is over to get the new sat cells rockin.
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    This thread is no good without pics of your tits mmowry.

    I'll post if you post.
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    Sorry but thanks to the EPI I no longer have tits.LOL But if you still want to see my chest youll have to pay,Im cheap but not easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry View Post
    Sorry but thanks to the EPI I no longer have tits.LOL But if you still want to see my chest youll have to pay,Im cheap but not easy.
    LOL
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    do u think this would be a good first cycle or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gettinpumped View Post
    do u think this would be a good first cycle or not?
    Due to the effect side effects are VERY low I think it would be a great idea honestly. I hate saying a lot of this stuff due to the "affiliation", however, I think most people here know I have been honest with things in the past and I definitely wouldn't put my word (name) on the line over selling 1 bottle lol.

    But when compared to something like Superdrol, which I am not dissing because the gains are amazing, but it is really harsh on the lipids and the lethargy is pretty tough. There are other weaker compounds out there that you could take but I think the positive:negative ratio is very very high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gettinpumped View Post
    do u think this would be a good first cycle or not?
    Since Ive tried this Id never go back to the other PH & PS Ive taken.This stuff is a dream.If it werent for positive effects you wouldnt even know that you were on anything.Ive had nothing negative to report.
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    Don't mean to get off topic but does anyone think a topical formestane would be good to use along with the epistane for reducing gyno & puffy nipples?
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    mmowry,

    Has the gyno gone away 100%? I still have some small traces of gyno from an SD/PP cycle that just don't seem to go away despite my efforts, and am looking into some epistane to solve it. Wondering what your opinion might be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    mmowry,

    Has the gyno gone away 100%? I still have some small traces of gyno from an superdrol/PP cycle that just don't seem to go away despite my efforts, and am looking into some epistane to solve it. Wondering what your opinion might be.

    Thanks,
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    ^^^ Ya that would be unreaaaal! lookin forward to the update!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grifter View Post
    Don't mean to get off topic but does anyone think a topical formestane would be good to use along with the epistane for reducing gyno & puffy nipples?
    I dont believe form is necessary at all.

    Sinner the GYNO IS GONE.Im as happy as a pig in (fill in the blank)LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry View Post
    I dont believe form is necessary at all.

    Sinner the GYNO IS GONE.Im as happy as a pig in (fill in the blank)LOL
    The topical formestane for reducing puffy nipples (applied in the nipple area) not so much for removing gyno. It wouldn't be necessary? So the Epistane would be doing both just as well?
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    The form is an AI which means less test conversion to Estro.The Epi is an Estro Agonist hence it competes for receptor sites making estrogen of no consequence so in my opinion the form would be better used by its self.Good luck buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry View Post
    The form is an AI which means less test conversion to Estro.The Epi is an Estro Agonist hence it competes for receptor sites making estrogen of no consequence so in my opinion the form would be better used by its self.Good luck buddy.
    The word you are looking for is antagonist just so you know. Agonist means it acts on the receptor and acts similarly to estrogen .
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    My bad!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry View Post
    My bad!
    Haha no problem, hard on the forums to say it nicely without making it sound like you are bashing someone. Just an informative post . Heck you are bigger than me anyways, but I run a 4.39 40yd dash so I'll tell ya, insult ya, then run
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    Quote Originally Posted by LakeMountD View Post
    Haha no problem, hard on the forums to say it nicely without making it sound like you are bashing someone. Just an informative post . Heck you are bigger than me anyways, but I run a 4.39 40yd dash so I'll tell ya, insult ya, then run
    4.39? damn, that is fast my best ever in a 40 yd sprint was 4.75 with laser timing. how was your time clocked. if laser sensoring was used, then that is nothing short of impressive. its hard to get an accrate reading with a stopwatch though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WannaBeHulk View Post
    4.39? damn, that is fast my best ever in a 40 yd sprint was 4.75 with laser timing. how was your time clocked. if laser sensoring was used, then that is nothing short of impressive. its hard to get an accrate reading with a stopwatch though.
    I was continuous mid to high 4.3's on the handclock and mid 4.4's on the laser. Usually takes 1/10 off your time.
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    gonna have to try this out to get rid of some nagging gyno.....
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