Epistane the anabolic GYNO destroyer

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by yeahright View Post
    Although it appears that people could get away with a truncated post cycle therapy on this, for those of you who took the compound to tackle pre-existing gyno problems, I'd suggest (without any medical knowledge to back-up my opinion) not taking any shortcuts. If EPI got rid of your gyno, then I'd call that a miracle and follow everything else to the letter to keep this miracle. JMHO.
    Very wise post.Thanks Yeahright!

    So folks let me be the guinea pig for this one and Ill keep everyone posted!


    Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths . Proverbs 3:5-6


  2. you are too kind! LOL!
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  3. and too brave... at least for my blood. good luck though sir.

    but since i definatley fall under the catagory of preexisting gyno would a 4 week titrating post cycle therapy like this be acceptable?

    torem 120,90,60,30
    ATD 25,50,75,100

    ill be running mass fx, powerfull, maca and DHEA as well so do i need to go as high as 100 with the ATD in te end or drop it off to 50 again? any opinions would be welcome although im sure either would do.

  4. as for phera bol... i think i took it or was it methyl plex??? either way ive used juggs stuff before and they were up to par but who knows what this batch may hold, wish i could have every generic i ever purchased tested, i think id be willin to risk it even though theyre fairly close to cheapest.

    and as for tren x too i dunno but if its the same as m-trn then get it and get it now! but get somethin else to stack with it thats a little wetter as itll nock you strength off the charts but didnt bring me all that great of gains... my diet suffered at that tim ethough so im sure that attributed very much so to the lack of mass put on.



    edit...... just got the epi when i got home and w/o is comin up in an hour or so.... to take or not to take....

  5. Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    ... ill be running mass fx, powerfull, maca and DHEA as well so do i need to go as high as 100 with the ATD in te end or drop it off to 50 again? any opinions would be welcome although im sure either would do.
    I'd say 3wks @ 25,50,50-75 is probably perfect. You can milk 25mg into wk4 if needed, but you do not need to go any higher that 50-75mg in wk3.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    as for phera bol... i think i took it or was it methyl plex??? either way ive used juggs stuff before and they were up to par but who knows what this batch may hold, wish i could have every generic i ever purchased tested, i think id be willin to risk it even though theyre fairly close to cheapest.

    and as for tren x too i dunno but if its the same as m-trn then get it and get it now! but get somethin else to stack with it thats a little wetter as itll nock you strength off the charts but didnt bring me all that great of gains... my diet suffered at that tim ethough so im sure that attributed very much so to the lack of mass put on.



    edit...... just got the epi when i got home and w/o is comin up in an hour or so.... to take or not to take....
    What do you think about a 3 week sd followed by 3 week of Tren-x?
    Last edited by yeahright; 03-12-2007 at 11:14 PM.

  7. bigboy, take that out of your post, you can't post sources or links to other store sites.....

    gotta read the rules, dawg!

  8. Quote Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    bigboy, take that out of your post, you can't post sources or links to other store sites.....

    gotta read the rules, dawg!

    Damn.. forgot.. I've been up for 36 hours. Thanks YeahRight for taken care of that ... and Mace... I guess you got my back on that one.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by BigBoy12 View Post
    What do you think about a 3 week superdrol followed by 3 week of Tren-x?
    how many cycles have you run and how many of both the mentioned supps and how did you react?

    super is harsh on the lipids SOOOO if you taken super before with no sides then maybe..... although im not one to talk as i ran a superdrol PP 6 weeker and i would expect the results to be similar. if you do decide to do this cycle though front load with milk thistle and NAC @ least 1 week before and through out your entire cycle and post cycle therapy and make sure to not exceed 20 mg of superdrol and if m-trn is the same as tren-x then i got sides quick at the recommended 3mg so i would try 1.5 first and try upping if any sides show drop immediatly (mine was in the form of severe bacne and oily skin and still got mad stength results from 1.5......... here read this M-tryin M-TRN)

    its serious stuff bro so maybe if you were to find a non methyl youd be better off to stack it with that, maybe fini or the like.

    EDIT:
    (my last cycle was SD as well w/ complete PCT and got itchy nips during cycle and thought nothing...... here i am now with little girl nips ontop of my pecks..... you decide...)

  10. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    I'd say 3wks @ 25,50,50-75 is probably perfect. You can milk 25mg into wk4 if needed, but you do not need to go any higher that 50-75mg in wk3.
    thanks much D, i think ill play it safe and run the last week @ 25 as well to help remove any chance of any rebound

    although i have an interesting idea but tell me if its worth while or just a waste of supp.....

    keep n mind that my main goal this cycle is to remove my existing gyno..... and i dont have a clue as to what the halflife of epi might be, so this might not be needed BUUUUUT i was thinking the standard PH that has to be taken more then once a day is taken upon waking (w/ or w/o food depending) and the second before lifting, but since this has est blocking prop and the time of day when est is its highest is while your sleeping would it be benificial to take the second dose before sleepy bye instead of in the morn??? remember im looking more towards the loss of my tatties and not so much the muscle gaining benifits(although they are very welcome). would this be wise or a waste????

  11. I beleive the estimated half life of Epi is around 6-8 hours.

    Epi is the real deal people. I know it's hard to beleive, especially when you've been living with gyno for a number of years. But it reduced mine about 50%, and at week 3 of PCT (i'm down to 20mg of nolva) it doesn't appear to be coming back.

    While mine was not a 100% reduction, nor do I think I can acheive this, the progress I obtained with Epi was pretty awesome, thank the Lord. I'll try one more cycle in a few months.

  12. THATS AWESOME! good luck on your next cycle!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    i believe he is adding FX in....

    I am using clomid, nolva, FX, HD, DHEA, and Retain! 6 weeks.
    Mace, what dosages will you be running with these?

  14. wk1: Clomid 150mg/d, FX 2/d, HD 2/d, Retain 3/d, DHEA 200mg/d
    wk2: Clomid 50mg/d, Nolva 40mg/d, FX 4/d, HD 2/d, Retain 2/d, DHEA 100mg/d
    wk3: Nolva 40mg/d, FX 4/d, HD 3/d, Retain 1/d, DHEA 100mg/d
    wk4: Nolva 20mg/d, FX 4/d, HD 3/d, Retain 1/d, DHEA 100mg/d
    wk5: FX 4/d, HD 4/d, DHEA 50mg/d
    wk6: FX 2/d, HD 4/d, DHEA 25mg/d

  15. Nice Layout!
    1.Do you like the nolva/clomid combo better than torem?

    2.What dosages would you use for DHEA with epi?
    150 throughout?

  16. same as above.....

    i couldn't get torem. The supplier was sold out and i like to make sure i have EVERYTHING before i start, so i went with the old standby of nolva and clomid

    here is a torem cycle:
    wk1: Toremifene citrate 90mg/n, HD 2caps/d, DHEA 200mg/d, Retain 3caps/d, MFX 2caps/d
    wk2: Toremifene citrate 60mg/n, HD 2caps/d, DHEA 150mg/d, Retain 2caps/d, MFX 4caps/d
    wk3: Toremifene citrate 30mg/n, HD 3caps/d, DHEA 100mg/d, Retain 1cap/d, MFX 4caps/d
    wk4: Toremifene citrate 30mg/n, HD 3caps/d, DHEA 50mg/d, MFX 4caps/d
    wk5: Toremifene citrate 15mg/n, HD 4caps/d, MFX 4caps/d
    wk6: HD 4caps/d, MFX 2caps/d
    Last edited by yeahright; 03-14-2007 at 03:43 PM.

  17. Thanks for all the info man. Very helpful. I prefer Torem. so thats why I asked about the nolva/clomid combo, but im sure both would keep you covered. It just seems Torem gets ya back a little faster so I use that when I can, but I like to have a backup plan as well (just in case something is out like in your situation).

  18. yeah, i do, too!

  19. mmorwy, your cycle seemed to go great. being that your done and with all the new info coming out, would you do anything diffrent?

  20. The only thing that Id do different is add a little more training since recovery was great.

    Hopefuly Ill have things ironed out soon so that on my second run of Epistane I wont be working 2 jobs (on the road 14+hrs/day) and Ill be able to up my food consumption as it was lacking many days.

    And Im in wk 2 of pct Ive lost a couple lbs but still atleast 8+lbs gain and fat reduction.

    Torem,7oh and MassFX are a great combo.I HIGHLY recommend it!


    Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths . Proverbs 3:5-6

  21. yeahright, i see your adding zol to your ep cycle. is that for cutting effect and at what dosages are u adding it?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    same as above.....

    i couldn't get torem. IBE was sold out and i like to make sure i have EVERYTHING before i start, so i went with the old standby of nolva and clomid

    here is a torem cycle:
    wk1: Toremifene citrate 90mg/n, HD 2caps/d, DHEA 200mg/d, Retain 3caps/d, MFX 2caps/d
    wk2: Toremifene citrate 60mg/n, HD 2caps/d, DHEA 150mg/d, Retain 2caps/d, MFX 4caps/d
    wk3: Toremifene citrate 30mg/n, HD 3caps/d, DHEA 100mg/d, Retain 1cap/d, MFX 4caps/d
    wk4: Toremifene citrate 30mg/n, HD 3caps/d, DHEA 50mg/d, MFX 4caps/d
    wk5: Toremifene citrate 15mg/n, HD 4caps/d, MFX 4caps/d
    wk6: HD 4caps/d, MFX 2caps/d
    hey thats a good lookin setup there mace, and until last night i didnt even know that HD held some est blockin properties (although not all the way) and was actually contemplating running it with mass as well durin my post cycle therapy in fact...........heres my log

  23. Quote Originally Posted by freezito View Post
    yeahright, i see your adding zol to your ep cycle. is that for cutting effect and at what dosages are u adding it?
    Re-comp/cutting. 150mg per day straight for 4 weeks. I'm not sure this was a good idea. In private conversations with someone very familiar with this compound, he speculated that Zol might in certain ways blunt the effects of epi.....but I was halfway through the cycle so continued with it as planned. I'm in my last couple days and I am up 6 lbs and down 2% bodyfat according to my tanita scale. This is what I was shooting for so I'm pleased.....and about 2 weeks in I pulled a muscle deep in my core during a squat (so painful it brought tears to my eyes) so my workouts have been light for the last two weeks. I suspect that my overall recomp would be better had I not been sidelined by this injury.
    Last edited by yeahright; 03-14-2007 at 05:28 PM.

  24. im going to due a first cycle of epistane... can anyone tell whats worked the best as pct. or anythign taken during the cycle.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by wavecruiser90 View Post
    im going to due a first cycle of epistane... can anyone tell whats worked the best as post cycle therapy. or anythign taken during the cycle.
    did you even read the last 3 pages of posts bud??? your answer is there with multiple varients all acceptable for PCT with epi
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