Double ActivaTe + RXT = WOW

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by xcendo
    Yeah, I'm back on it and training Westside, and all my lifts are up 5-10 lbs since last week. Solid sh*t.

    What "androgenic sides" did you get?
    Hair started to thin pretty bad after like a week,real oily skin too.To me it aint worth loosing your hair for a little muscle that aint gonna stay there.Just finished halo yesterday,started post today,that is a relatively side free compound.very low androgenic profile.


  2. Thought you said you can't say enough good about the NHA stack? In my (and the overwhelming majority of other's) experience, the gains stay after running Activate + Rebound. No hair loss here, nor with, again, the majority of users. After reading about Halodrol reducing HDL levels and Activate doing the opposite, I'd rather stick with NHA.

    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog
    Hair started to thin pretty bad after like a week,real oily skin too.To me it aint worth loosing your hair for a little muscle that aint gonna stay there.Just finished halo yesterday,started post today,that is a relatively side free compound.very low androgenic profile.
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  3. I'm curious about the double dose of Activate...anyone know if there would be any adverse sides associated with doubling the dose?

    Also, how long do you think this stack can be run effectively at that dosage? I heard that 4wks on at regular dosage is the norm?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by xcendo
    Thought you said you can't say enough good about the NHA stack? In my (and the overwhelming majority of other's) experience, the gains stay after running Activate + Rebound. No hair loss here, nor with, again, the majority of users. After reading about Halodrol reducing HDL levels and Activate doing the opposite, I'd rather stick with NHA.
    Point being nha is great for test boost.Thats good,but raising test in anyway affects hair,natural or supplemented.You need to speak for yourself as I did.I'm not really interested in your made up majority's.I never said anything about not keeping gains,or HDL levels.Logicly raising test will cause oily skin,etc.So do you somehow still disagree???As for natural products this is great for gains.

  5. True. And speaking for myself, I never had any sides, aside from the libido reduction and mood sides I'm convinced were caused by RXT. Rebound Reloaded has been much better in that regard.

    You said, "To me it aint worth loosing your hair for a little muscle that aint gonna stay there." As far as HDL, it was just an example of how NHA would stack up against a PH like Halodrol-50.

    But yes, we can both agree that ActivaTe is the sh*t for boosting free test.

    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog
    Point being nha is great for test boost.Thats good,but raising test in anyway affects hair,natural or supplemented.You need to speak for yourself as I did.I'm not really interested in your made up majority's.I never said anything about not keeping gains,or HDL levels.Logicly raising test will cause oily skin,etc.So do you somehow still disagree???As for natural products this is great for gains.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by TripDog
    Point being nha is great for test boost.Thats good,but raising test in anyway affects hair,natural or supplemented.You need to speak for yourself as I did.I'm not really interested in your made up majority's.I never said anything about not keeping gains,or HDL levels.Logicly raising test will cause oily skin,etc.So do you somehow still disagree???As for natural products this is great for gains.
    Yeah, i too seem to find it out of circle.
    I've ran the exact same stack and have had little oily skin, and very, very little, to NO hair loss...i put about 5 others on the stack and they've never reported any acne flare or loss in hair...

    Pretty interesting, but it's the first i've seen where it caused severe hair loss.
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  7. i think it's safe to say that your own testosterone is androgenic enough to cause excessive hair shedding to those who are susceptible to hair loss.

    so any PH/steroid that has a lower androgenic value than endogenous testosterone would be a safer way to bulk than our own hormones? considering the majority do not convert to DHT... purely on the hair loss issue, of course.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Gokmog
    i think it's safe to say that your own testosterone is androgenic enough to cause excessive hair shedding to those who are susceptible to hair loss.

    so any PH/steroid that has a lower androgenic value than endogenous testosterone would be a safer way to bulk than our own hormones? considering the majority do not convert to DHT... purely on the hair loss issue, of course.
    good point.While on halodrol i think my hair got thicker.Also the small gyno lumps i had almost completely disapeared while on it.So with the case of halo supplementing with low side compounds like halo might be safer as you said.

  9. you have to factor in things like dead penis syndrome ,lethargy,and cholesterol/lipids too though.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Gokmog
    i think it's safe to say that your own testosterone is androgenic enough to cause excessive hair shedding to those who are susceptible to hair loss.

    so any PH/steroid that has a lower androgenic value than endogenous testosterone would be a safer way to bulk than our own hormones? considering the majority do not convert to DHT... purely on the hair loss issue, of course.
    Correct me if im wrong but DHT is one a few androgenic compounds that has the ability to cause hair loss.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by TripDog
    Correct me if im wrong but DHT is one a few androgenic compounds that has the ability to cause hair loss.
    You're right, and ActivaTe has been found to block DHT. Several hair growth products use nettle as a main ingredient, by the way. More reasons why your hair loss on ActivaTe is so unusual.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by hardknock
    Yeah, i too seem to find it out of circle.
    I've ran the exact same stack and have had little oily skin, and very, very little, to NO hair loss...i put about 5 others on the stack and they've never reported any acne flare or loss in hair...

    Pretty interesting, but it's the first i've seen where it caused severe hair loss.
    After like 4 days on the activate I started to get acne on my chest.I never in my life can say ive gotten acne there.The big ones that f'in hurt.The head started getting super greasy,like alot of upper forehead grease.I dont know ,Im just posting my experience.The feedback is good too!!!!

  13. I will also add,my workouts while taking the activate were probably the best in a long time.I'm a head trainer at a great gym.I get to play with weights all the time.I'm not some novice retard who doesn't know their elbow from their *******.Activate is IMO the best thing for people wanting to put on muscle,that don't want to take hormone based products..................Feed back anyone

  14. Quote Originally Posted by TripDog
    After like 4 days on the activate I started to get acne on my chest.I never in my life can say ive gotten acne there.The big ones that f'in hurt.The head started getting super greasy,like alot of upper forehead grease.I dont know ,Im just posting my experience.The feedback is good too!!!!
    Guggulbolic will dry up the excess oil, lower LDL and burn fat.
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    2 ounces of pure lemon juice will also dry up the oil. Straight up will wake the living dead in two seconds flat. You should rinse your teeth after ward because it is hard on tooth enamel. Mixing it in orange juice is less fun.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by TripDog
    After like 4 days on the activate I started to get acne on my chest.I never in my life can say ive gotten acne there.The big ones that f'in hurt.The head started getting super greasy,like alot of upper forehead grease.I dont know ,Im just posting my experience.The feedback is good too!!!!
    I am getting this chest-effect now from double-dosing activate.

    I am also training with a volume approach with high frequency and show no signs of overtraining (or slowing down).
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by Robboe
    I am getting this chest-effect now from double-dosing activate.

    I am also training with a volume approach with high frequency and show no signs of overtraining (or slowing down).
    Same here on both accounts.

  17. I myself am currently on a cycle of double dosed activate and rebound reloaded. This is my second run of these compounds and have to agree with the acne aspect. I definately notice increased amounts of acne to my back and sometimes chest while using. The NHA stack is very effective and lives up to its claims IMO. I myself have never had hair issues while taking these supplements, but I can see how they would increase your risk if your already predispostioned genetically.

  18. are you all using just activate or getting bulk powder?
    if the nettle root powder is 10:1 what does that mean and how does it compare to custom having 95% nettle root?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by charliewat
    are you all using just activate or getting bulk powder?
    if the nettle root powder is 10:1 what does that mean and how does it compare to custom having 95% nettle root?
    ActivaTe.

    The urtica standardised to 10% divanil requires x10 the dosing (so you're talking about 16g of the stuff to get the equivalent activate dosing). Not to mention there is talk of other lignans in the extract possibly antagonizing the effect of the Divanil. Never read into that though.
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  20. I'm using CNW's bulk powder because at the time, Activate was hard to get a hold of. I mixed it with his Avena sativa powder and capped it. Works well. I sorta feel bad, but I have given DS so much $$ in the days when it was just Matt that I should be on the board of directors there. lol

    For me, the best benefit is just feeling great all the time. I must have had pretty high SHGB levels.

  21. Figured I''d chime in and say that double dosing act. does indeed have a much more pronounced effect for me as well. Going on three weeks since I came off of a TRN/Zol cycle and still fill like I'm on. Weight has decreased 2lbs or so but strength is better, and vascularity/fullness is identical to what it was while on.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by doggzj
    I just thought I'd update and say that I've cut my run short. I know how it works now, and I really want to do this with a bulk. Natural bulking with this setup would be amazing, and I will probably log a run of it over the summer. Until then:

    If you can afford do double the dose, it's worth it. I highly recommend this stack, expecially on a bulk. Thanks so much to DS for bringing this to market.
    A question? When you came off the activaTe, did your lifts drops back into normal range? The last few weeks on only 2 pills a day combined with white blood/green bulge my lifts have increased as my weight has decreased. It's also been a while since I have really tried to get stronger in my lifts every week. And I have been making plateau-busting progress, I am just wondering how much of that can be attributed to my supplement use..

  23. For anyone who is thinking about double dosing activate, I too had awesome results. I was maintaining my bodyweight while cutting, and gaining strength. The NHA Stack with double Activate may be the best supp combo on the market.

  24. My strength is sticking around post cycle and has even gone up on a few lifts. That never happens for me.

  25. Worth every penny to double dose the ActivaTe...
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