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    Iíd like to start by thanking bdcc and the entire PES/Synthetic Supplements team for the chance to log the stack of my choice. Itís an amazing opportunity and Iím very grateful for being one of the three winners. With all the great products they offer it was a tough decision, but having my goals in mind I went with AnaBeta Elite, Erase, and Alpha T-2. Of the three products, I only have experience with Erase(Pro), so Iím really looking forward to seeing what I can accomplish with them. Iíve been meaning to try AB Elite and Alpha T-2 for a while and everything Iíve heard about them has been overwhelmingly positive.

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    ANABETA ELITE: Anabolic Transformation Agent
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    Dosing (subject to change)

    AnaBeta Elite: 2 caps pre workout (45-60 mins) and 2 caps post workout with food on training days. 1 cap 4x daily with food spread throughout non training days.

    Erase: 2 caps first thing in the morning on an empty stomach and 1 cap ~8 hours later. I will most likely try a few dosing options and will drop to 2 caps if joints become problematic.

    Alpha T-2: 2 caps first thing in the morning on an empty stomach and 1 cap ~8 hours later on an empty stomach.

    *Iím open to any different dosing suggestions


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    multivitamin
    fish oil
    digestive enzymes (Pancreatin)
    probiotics
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    ALCAR
    Cissus
    pre workout (various)

    Diet
    Iím going to start by eating about 500 calories over maintenance and may adjust based on results. Iíll be averaging 6000+ (closer to 7000 on work/training days) calories a day. Almost all of my food will be clean and the carb intake will be high. ďCheat mealsĒ will be had no more than once a week if at all.

    Goals
    Iíll be looking to continue with my lean bulk/recomp, which Iíve been doing successfully for a few months now. I hope to add some lean mass and strength while somewhat tightening up my appearance. Iíve been gaining back size and strength over the last year after losing a ton of weight due to illness and Iím hoping to further my progress.

    Training

    Sun- chest/tris
    Mon- back/bis or bis/forearms/calves/abs (Iíve recently been splitting up back/bis to better fit my schedule when needed)
    Tues- shoulders
    Wed- off or back (depending on Mondayís workout)
    Thu- arms/light chest (close and reverse grip bench press)
    Fri- Legs
    Sat- off

    I donít have a specific program Iím following. I had to follow several different ones for years and Iím currently enjoying adjusting my training based on how I feel. For the last 6 months my concentration has been mainly on increasing strength. Most lifts were performed in the lower rep range (4-8) for 3-5 sets depending on the specific exercise. Iím going to continue to try and add strength, but will put more focus on building muscle as well. I currently donít have any cardio in my routine, but have been getting plenty of it with a second job I recently took on. This has also caused me to increase my caloric intake significantly. Ab work will be done twice a week, whenever I decide to add it in.

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    Height: 5í11Ē
    Weight: 202lbs
    Body Fat %: unknown
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    I began supplementing this morning and will have an update posted later tonight.
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    First! I am in for this Matt.

    Great detail on the first post, a worthy winner.
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    Second! Kill it like usual!

    This stack is so sick!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc
    First! I am in for this Matt.

    Great detail on the first post, a worthy winner.
    Thanks Ben. I can't wait to see what I can accomplish with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift
    Second! Kill it like usual!
    Thanks for following man...that's the plan.
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    Will definitely be following this. I need to see how well/when your dosing effect you the best. I wil be experimentIng times and amounts to fun my sweet spot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Budman7811
    Will definitely be following this. I need to see how well/when your dosing effect you the best. I wil be experimentIng times and amounts to fun my sweet spot
    Welcome Budman. I plan on trying a few approaches with AB and Erase over the next week or so to see if I notice any differences as well.
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    Day 1

    I had my first doses of Erase and Alpha T-2 at 2 caps each shortly after waking up this morning. I had 2 caps of AnaBeta Elite with a big breakfast about 40 mins later and my appetite was normal. Once I finished eating I felt a slight warming from what I believe was the AT-2 and I also felt a little "off". It wasn't a stimmed out feeling or uncomfortable in any way...I just felt a little different than normal. I'm really not sure how to describe it, but I thought maybe it was from the Alpha Yohimbine which I don't have any previous experience with. I was in the gym within an hour and the feeling was gone by the time I started working out.

    I worked chest and tris today and it was a decent workout. I slowed down the tempo on the majority of my lifts and focused more on the mind muscle connection. I wasn't concerned with strength increases today and concentrated more on targeting the muscle as much as possible. It resulted in what I felt was an effective workout and I left happy with what was accomplished.

    -I'll use this week's workouts as a baseline for any progress over the course of the stack.

    BB Flat Bench
    245x8
    255x7
    265x5
    265x5
    270x4

    BB Incline Bench
    210x7
    215x7
    225x5
    225x5

    Pec Deck
    190x10
    195x9
    210x8

    Cable Flys (extra slow tempo)
    20x12 low pull
    25x8 low pull
    25x10 high pull
    30x8 high pull

    DB Flat Bench
    80x12 (2 sec. negative)
    80x10 (3 sec negative)
    80x8 (4 sec. negative)
    -never taken this approach, but enjoyed it

    supersets
    V-bar Pulldowns (this tower/pulley system feels much heavier than any other I have used)
    105x12
    105x12
    120x8
    Rope Pulldowns
    45x12
    45x12
    55x10
    DB Kickbacks (hold at top)
    30x15
    35x15
    35x13

    Dips (wide grip/extra slow tempo)
    BW+70x12
    BW+70x10
    BW+70x8
    BW+70x8

    I was sweating a little more than usual for what I did today. I had a slight pump while doing tricep supersets, but I don't think I noticed any increase due to supplementation at this point.

    I planned on taking 2 caps of AB Elite immediately after my workout with a shake consisting of protein and oats, but I ended up not bringing it with me. I always have a shake on my ride home and will dose AB Elite with it tomorrow. I did however have somewhat of a struggle drinking my shake. It took me twice as long to get it down on the ride home and I'll credit this to the appetite suppression of AT-2. I ended up dosing 2 caps of AB Elite with a meal about 45 mins after I got home.

    I had another cap of AT-2 and Erase this afternoon and didn't experience the same "off" feeling from this morning. It could have had nothing to do with AT-2 and I'll see what happens tomorrow morning. I didn't seem to get the same appetite suppression with 1 cap this afternoon either, as I had no problem eating the rest of the day.

    I'll be working out again tomorrow and I'm hoping to see some of the effects of AB Elite soon...any hunger increase is always welcomed when consuming as much food as I do.
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    Kill it man I'd deff want to run this stack one time!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107
    Kill it man I'd deff want to run this stack one time!!!
    Thanks man. The stack definitely looks like it has a lot of potential. I'll do my best to get the most out of it.
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    Finally subbing early to one of your logs.

    Sub'd !
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    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney
    Finally subbing early to one of your logs.

    Sub'd !
    Haha thanks brother. Glad to have you.
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    Day 2

    My weight was unchanged this morning at 202lbs. I had 2 caps each of AT-2 and Erase when I woke up before eating about 40 mins later. I ended up having the day off from work so I had 2 caps of AB Elite at the tail end of my meal which was an hour before I started working out. I didn't get any "off" feeling from what I thought was AT-2 like yesterday, but about 20 mins after ABE I thought I felt a little energy kick throughout my body and was itching to get to the gym.

    Before leaving for the gym I had a hefty dose of a pre workout which turned out to be a bad idea. I'm not sure if the pwo combined with 2 caps of AT-2 in a short period of time caused this, but shortly after getting to the gym I had developed a headache and felt slightly nauseous. I have a high stim tolerance so this was unexpected. I'll normally be lifting at night so this won't be a problem going forward. Due to how I was feeling I held off on back work and stuck with biceps/forearms/calves/abs. I kept the tempo slower and focused on the negative of most exercises. It wasn't the best workout, but I made it threw ok. One thing to note is that I was sweating like I was doing cardio. I'm not sure if how I was feeling had any impact on this or not. I'll get a better idea if its from supplementation over the next few workouts.

    Standing Cable Curls (straight bar)
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    100x8
    105x6
    105x5

    Chins
    BWx18
    BW+40x8
    BW+50x7
    BW+50x6
    drop
    BWx8

    Calf Extension machine (5 sec. neg/hold at peak)
    200x20
    230x12
    240x10
    240x10

    Seated DB alt. Curls
    45x11
    50x7
    50x6
    55x4

    BB Wrist Curls (over bench)
    3 sets
    50xfailure

    Preacher Curl machine
    200x8
    200x7
    200x6

    Cable Crunches
    120x15
    130x15
    130x12

    Seated Crunch machine
    215x25
    215x25

    I had 2 caps of ABE with my post workout shake of protein and oats and it was a challenge to finish it. I think that maybe the reason I had trouble with this yesterday as well is because of the pwo combined with 2 caps of AT-2 and slight nausea. I should be fine when not working out in the morning or cutting back on the stims if I do.

    I felt back to normal not long after I got home. My appetite actually made a huge move in the opposite direction because I've been hungry ever since. I'm not sure if people usually experience a hunger increase this fast with ABE, but I've been eating every two hours and my appetite can't be tamed. I've actually been eating oats in between my meals and my stomach still feels like a bottomless pit. If this is how its going to be going forward I'll have no problem keeping up with my high caloric intake...I might actually have to hold myself back for once.

    I had my second dose of AT-2 and Erase in the late afternoon which didn't have any noticeable effect on me...not that I really expected it to.
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    Holy preacher curls that a lot of weight. Good workout Breezy !
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    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney
    Holy preacher curls that a lot of weight. Good workout Breezy !
    Thanks man. It's only a machine although I have conquered it...I think I was doing 140 on it about 6 months ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    Day 2

    My weight was unchanged this morning at 202lbs. I had 2 caps each of AT-2 and Erase when I woke up before eating about 40 mins later. I ended up having the day off from work so I had 2 caps of AB Elite at the tail end of my meal which was an hour before I started working out. I didn't get any "off" feeling from what I thought was AT-2 like yesterday, but about 20 mins after ABE I thought I felt a little energy kick throughout my body and was itching to get to the gym.

    Before leaving for the gym I had a hefty dose of a pre workout which turned out to be a bad idea. I'm not sure if the pwo combined with 2 caps of AT-2 in a short period of time caused this, but shortly after getting to the gym I had developed a headache and felt slightly nauseous. I have a high stim tolerance so this was unexpected. I'll normally be lifting at night so this won't be a problem going forward. Due to how I was feeling I held off on back work and stuck with biceps/forearms/calves/abs. I kept the tempo slower and focused on the negative of most exercises. It wasn't the best workout, but I made it threw ok. One thing to note is that I was sweating like I was doing cardio. I'm not sure if how I was feeling had any impact on this or not. I'll get a better idea if its from supplementation over the next few workouts.

    Standing Cable Curls (straight bar)
    100x9
    100x8
    105x6
    105x5

    Chins
    BWx18
    BW+40x8
    BW+50x7
    BW+50x6
    drop
    BWx8

    Calf Extension machine (5 sec. neg/hold at peak)
    200x20
    230x12
    240x10
    240x10

    Seated DB alt. Curls
    45x11
    50x7
    50x6
    55x4

    BB Wrist Curls (over bench)
    3 sets
    50xfailure

    Preacher Curl machine
    200x8
    200x7
    200x6

    Cable Crunches
    120x15
    130x15
    130x12

    Seated Crunch machine
    215x25
    215x25

    I had 2 caps of ABE with my post workout shake of protein and oats and it was a challenge to finish it. I think that maybe the reason I had trouble with this yesterday as well is because of the pwo combined with 2 caps of AT-2 and slight nausea. I should be fine when not working out in the morning or cutting back on the stims if I do.

    I felt back to normal not long after I got home. My appetite actually made a huge move in the opposite direction because I've been hungry ever since. I'm not sure if people usually experience a hunger increase this fast with ABE, but I've been eating every two hours and my appetite can't be tamed. I've actually been eating oats in between my meals and my stomach still feels like a bottomless pit. If this is how its going to be going forward I'll have no problem keeping up with my high caloric intake...I might actually have to hold myself back for once.

    I had my second dose of AT-2 and Erase in the late afternoon which didn't have any noticeable effect on me...not that I really expected it to.
    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney View Post
    Holy preacher curls that a lot of weight. Good workout Breezy !
    Get used to those high numbers Fu, breezy is a monster up in here! Nice work bro!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift

    Get used to those high numbers Fu, breezy is a monster up in here! Nice work bro!
    Thanks bro. Some of them weren't as strong today with how I was feeling.
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    Day 3

    My weight took a jump to 205.6lbs (+3.6lbs overall) after a few days off from work, but should drop back down after being out in the humid 100 degree weather today...not looking forward to it. Despite the extra weight, which I think the majority of is water, my appearance is looking fairly dry. I believe Erase is already starting to help in this regard.

    I had 2 caps of AT-2 and Erase when I got up this morning before a huge breakfast. I plan on working shoulders tonight so I'll be taking AB Elite pre and post workout. I want to stay with this protocol a couple days and then maybe try some different dosing options before sticking with one for the remainder of the log.
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    Sorry im a little late but sub'in this log for sure. Really interested in seeing how it works for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagles802051
    Sorry im a little late but sub'in this log for sure. Really interested in seeing how it works for you
    Not late at all Eagles. Thanks for following. I'm interested too, as I only have previous experience with Erase.
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    Did you log your first run with Erase? I wouldnt mind looking over how it went. Ive got Erase and DAA sitting in my cart and im just itching for a reason to pull the trigger haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagles802051
    Did you log your first run with Erase? I wouldnt mind looking over how it went. Ive got Erase and DAA sitting in my cart and im just itching for a reason to pull the trigger haha
    I have a log with Erase Pro and Compound20 that had good results, but none with Erase solo.

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    Damn Breezy great log man, i just read the entire thing start to finish. Very informative and detailed and also inspirational how you've overcome some pretty big setbacks to what you are now. Congrats man
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    Day 3 continued

    I got out of work early because people were starting to pass out from the heat. With the rest of the day free I'm going to hit the gym early so I can stop by my office and check in. I'm going to see if I can continue to work from home a few more weeks which would allow me to keep working another job during the day...I'm enjoying the dual income.

    I just had 2 caps of AB Elite and 1 Erase with a couple chicken/Ezekiel bread sandwiches that I had made for work and will be heading to the gym shortly. I held off on the second dose of AT-2 because I have been eating all day. I'll have to take a food break after my post workout shake so I can fit it in on a somewhat empty stomach. I'm going to use a preworkout again and I don't see it causing a problem unless yesterday's nausea had something to do with ABE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagles802051
    Damn Breezy great log man, i just read the entire thing start to finish. Very informative and detailed and also inspirational how you've overcome some pretty big setbacks to what you are now. Congrats man
    Thanks man, I appreciate it. Glad you enjoyed it.
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    Subbing for sure. This is a stack I definitely want to see the ending to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F33NY
    Subbing for sure. This is a stack I definitely want to see the ending to.
    Thanks F33NY. Glad to have you along.
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    Thanks F33NY. Glad to have you along.
    Just read through a bit of your last log with PES and noticed you didn't do cardio with that stack. Are you doing cardio with this stack? And do you not do cardio because your work is very active, or you know you can leave the fatburning to the supplements?
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    Quote Originally Posted by F33NY

    Just read through a bit of your last log with PES and noticed you didn't do cardio with that stack. Are you doing cardio with this stack? And do you not do cardio because your work is very active, or you know you can leave the fatburning to the supplements?
    I'm not planning on any cardio with this stack either. I actually haven't done any in 8+ months. I have pretty good control over my physique through diet and training (without cardio) alone. However, the last month I've been working a physical job and most likely will through the remainder of this log. I'm hoping the supplements will help with any leaning as well.
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    Day 3 continued

    I had a solid workout and my shoulders felt like they were worked to their full potential. I continued the trend of slowing down the tempo, focusing on the negative portion of most lifts, and pausing in both the stretched and contracted position. This approach has caused a dip in some of my previous numbers, but my goal wasn't to increase weight. I'll most likely switch things up next week and pick up the pace a little.

    I had no issues with nausea today and felt great throughout my workout.

    BB Military Press
    190x8
    200x6
    200x6
    205x5

    Behind Neck Press
    180x5
    180x5
    180x5
    180x5

    Shrugs (Smith)
    310x12 front
    310x11 front
    330x8 front
    290x15 back
    310x11 back

    DB Press (focused on bringing weight down wide as possible w/o snapping shoulder)
    70x10
    70x10
    70x9

    BB Upright Row
    110x12
    130x9
    150x7
    drop
    110x8

    Rear Delt Fly (machine)
    175x10
    175x10
    175x10

    Face Pulls
    80x12
    80x11
    87.5x9

    supersets
    DB Front Raise
    20x12
    25x10
    27.5x8
    drop
    15x8
    DB Lateral Raise
    20x12
    25x10
    27.5x8
    drop
    15x9
    Seated DB Lateral Raise (bent over)
    20x12
    25x12
    27.5x9
    drop
    15x9

    My shoulders felt like they were going to pop after the supersets and I had somewhat of a pump during a good portion of my workout. I can't fully attribute this to the stack at this point because I usually train mainly for strength and pumps don't happen that often because of it. I'll have a better idea after a few more workouts if AB Elite is adding to it.

    I had 2 caps of AB Elite with a post workout shake consisting of protein and oats and had my second dose (1cap) of AT-2 a little while ago on a relatively empty stomach. AT-2 was taken later than I would have liked due to my schedule being switched around today.
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    10 sets of different presses. Your shoulders must have blown up like cannonballs. Great workout !
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    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney
    10 sets of different presses. Your shoulders must have blown up like cannonballs. Great workout !
    Thanks fu. Haha yeah they were feeling it. I'm probably going to start rotating the presses because its a little overkill.
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    Sub'd looks great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmdied
    Sub'd looks great!
    Welcome! Thanks for following.
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    Good weight being moved around in here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Budman7811
    Good weight being moved around in here
    Thanks Budman. It should only go up from here...at least that's the plan
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    Holy volume workout Batman!

    You did more reps for your shoulders in one routine than I have done in the past month lol.

    Great detail so far Matt, I love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc
    Holy volume workout Batman!

    You did more reps for your shoulders in one routine than I have done in the past month lol.

    Great detail so far Matt, I love it.
    Thanks Ben. Yeah my volume has been increased quite a bit over the last few months. It's been bringing good results so I haven't dropped it back down yet...I am highly considering it though.
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    Day 4

    My weight was 204.6lbs (+2.6lbs overall) this morning. I had a very short work day yesterday and think I'm still holding on to some water.

    I had 2 caps each of AT-2 and Erase on an empty stomach right after waking up. I plan on working out tonight and will dose AB Elite pre and post.

    The big hunger increase of a couple days ago hasn't been as strong since, so I'm not sure if it was related to ABE in any way. I noticed this morning my vascularity was prominent which isn't a normal occurence when waking up. I'll be keeping an eye on this going forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    Thanks Ben. Yeah my volume has been increased quite a bit over the last few months. It's been bringing good results so I haven't dropped it back down yet...I am highly considering it though.
    I don't have any issue with the volume in particular. I just don't directly train my deltoids that much.

    I might have to do this once just because I bet it will feel amazing after doing no shoulder routines for over a year lol.
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