PES Lean Bulk/Recomp: AnaBeta Elite, Erase, Alpha T-2
- 07-15-2012, 03:50 PM
Iíd like to start by thanking bdcc and the entire PES/Synthetic Supplements team for the chance to log the stack of my choice. Itís an amazing opportunity and Iím very grateful for being one of the three winners. With all the great products they offer it was a tough decision, but having my goals in mind I went with AnaBeta Elite, Erase, and Alpha T-2. Of the three products, I only have experience with Erase(Pro), so Iím really looking forward to seeing what I can accomplish with them. Iíve been meaning to try AB Elite and Alpha T-2 for a while and everything Iíve heard about them has been overwhelmingly positive.
ANABETA ELITE: Anabolic Transformation Agent
ERASE: High Affinity Inhibitor
ALPHA T-2: Targeted Fat Destroyer
Dosing (subject to change)
AnaBeta Elite: 2 caps pre workout (45-60 mins) and 2 caps post workout with food on training days. 1 cap 4x daily with food spread throughout non training days.
Erase: 2 caps first thing in the morning on an empty stomach and 1 cap ~8 hours later. I will most likely try a few dosing options and will drop to 2 caps if joints become problematic.
Alpha T-2: 2 caps first thing in the morning on an empty stomach and 1 cap ~8 hours later on an empty stomach.
*Iím open to any different dosing suggestions
digestive enzymes (Pancreatin)
pre workout (various)
Iím going to start by eating about 500 calories over maintenance and may adjust based on results. Iíll be averaging 6000+ (closer to 7000 on work/training days) calories a day. Almost all of my food will be clean and the carb intake will be high. ďCheat mealsĒ will be had no more than once a week if at all.
Iíll be looking to continue with my lean bulk/recomp, which Iíve been doing successfully for a few months now. I hope to add some lean mass and strength while somewhat tightening up my appearance. Iíve been gaining back size and strength over the last year after losing a ton of weight due to illness and Iím hoping to further my progress.
Mon- back/bis or bis/forearms/calves/abs (Iíve recently been splitting up back/bis to better fit my schedule when needed)
Wed- off or back (depending on Mondayís workout)
Thu- arms/light chest (close and reverse grip bench press)
I donít have a specific program Iím following. I had to follow several different ones for years and Iím currently enjoying adjusting my training based on how I feel. For the last 6 months my concentration has been mainly on increasing strength. Most lifts were performed in the lower rep range (4-8) for 3-5 sets depending on the specific exercise. Iím going to continue to try and add strength, but will put more focus on building muscle as well. I currently donít have any cardio in my routine, but have been getting plenty of it with a second job I recently took on. This has also caused me to increase my caloric intake significantly. Ab work will be done twice a week, whenever I decide to add it in.
Body Fat %: unknown
I began supplementing this morning and will have an update posted later tonight.PES Representative
- 07-15-2012, 03:56 PM
First! I am in for this Matt.
Great detail on the first post, a worthy winner.PES Representative
- 07-15-2012, 03:59 PM
Second! Kill it like usual!
This stack is so sick!PES Representativehttp://pescience.com/insider http://facebook.com/pescience
07-15-2012, 04:00 PM
Thanks Ben. I can't wait to see what I can accomplish with this.Originally Posted by bdcc
07-15-2012, 04:02 PM
Thanks for following man...that's the plan.Originally Posted by LiveToLift
07-15-2012, 05:05 PM
Will definitely be following this. I need to see how well/when your dosing effect you the best. I wil be experimentIng times and amounts to fun my sweet spot
07-15-2012, 06:07 PM
Welcome Budman. I plan on trying a few approaches with AB and Erase over the next week or so to see if I notice any differences as well.Originally Posted by Budman7811
07-15-2012, 10:21 PM
I had my first doses of Erase and Alpha T-2 at 2 caps each shortly after waking up this morning. I had 2 caps of AnaBeta Elite with a big breakfast about 40 mins later and my appetite was normal. Once I finished eating I felt a slight warming from what I believe was the AT-2 and I also felt a little "off". It wasn't a stimmed out feeling or uncomfortable in any way...I just felt a little different than normal. I'm really not sure how to describe it, but I thought maybe it was from the Alpha Yohimbine which I don't have any previous experience with. I was in the gym within an hour and the feeling was gone by the time I started working out.
I worked chest and tris today and it was a decent workout. I slowed down the tempo on the majority of my lifts and focused more on the mind muscle connection. I wasn't concerned with strength increases today and concentrated more on targeting the muscle as much as possible. It resulted in what I felt was an effective workout and I left happy with what was accomplished.
-I'll use this week's workouts as a baseline for any progress over the course of the stack.
BB Flat Bench
BB Incline Bench
Cable Flys (extra slow tempo)
20x12 low pull
25x8 low pull
25x10 high pull
30x8 high pull
DB Flat Bench
80x12 (2 sec. negative)
80x10 (3 sec negative)
80x8 (4 sec. negative)
-never taken this approach, but enjoyed it
V-bar Pulldowns (this tower/pulley system feels much heavier than any other I have used)
DB Kickbacks (hold at top)
Dips (wide grip/extra slow tempo)
I was sweating a little more than usual for what I did today. I had a slight pump while doing tricep supersets, but I don't think I noticed any increase due to supplementation at this point.
I planned on taking 2 caps of AB Elite immediately after my workout with a shake consisting of protein and oats, but I ended up not bringing it with me. I always have a shake on my ride home and will dose AB Elite with it tomorrow. I did however have somewhat of a struggle drinking my shake. It took me twice as long to get it down on the ride home and I'll credit this to the appetite suppression of AT-2. I ended up dosing 2 caps of AB Elite with a meal about 45 mins after I got home.
I had another cap of AT-2 and Erase this afternoon and didn't experience the same "off" feeling from this morning. It could have had nothing to do with AT-2 and I'll see what happens tomorrow morning. I didn't seem to get the same appetite suppression with 1 cap this afternoon either, as I had no problem eating the rest of the day.
I'll be working out again tomorrow and I'm hoping to see some of the effects of AB Elite soon...any hunger increase is always welcomed when consuming as much food as I do.
07-15-2012, 10:32 PM
Kill it man I'd deff want to run this stack one time!!!
Email me for free prodigy samples
07-15-2012, 10:37 PM
Thanks man. The stack definitely looks like it has a lot of potential. I'll do my best to get the most out of it.Originally Posted by howwedo107
07-16-2012, 12:05 AM
Finally subbing early to one of your logs.
I started a new log at:
07-16-2012, 12:08 AM
Haha thanks brother. Glad to have you.Originally Posted by fumoney
07-16-2012, 07:05 PM
My weight was unchanged this morning at 202lbs. I had 2 caps each of AT-2 and Erase when I woke up before eating about 40 mins later. I ended up having the day off from work so I had 2 caps of AB Elite at the tail end of my meal which was an hour before I started working out. I didn't get any "off" feeling from what I thought was AT-2 like yesterday, but about 20 mins after ABE I thought I felt a little energy kick throughout my body and was itching to get to the gym.
Before leaving for the gym I had a hefty dose of a pre workout which turned out to be a bad idea. I'm not sure if the pwo combined with 2 caps of AT-2 in a short period of time caused this, but shortly after getting to the gym I had developed a headache and felt slightly nauseous. I have a high stim tolerance so this was unexpected. I'll normally be lifting at night so this won't be a problem going forward. Due to how I was feeling I held off on back work and stuck with biceps/forearms/calves/abs. I kept the tempo slower and focused on the negative of most exercises. It wasn't the best workout, but I made it threw ok. One thing to note is that I was sweating like I was doing cardio. I'm not sure if how I was feeling had any impact on this or not. I'll get a better idea if its from supplementation over the next few workouts.
Standing Cable Curls (straight bar)
Calf Extension machine (5 sec. neg/hold at peak)
Seated DB alt. Curls
BB Wrist Curls (over bench)
Preacher Curl machine
Seated Crunch machine
I had 2 caps of ABE with my post workout shake of protein and oats and it was a challenge to finish it. I think that maybe the reason I had trouble with this yesterday as well is because of the pwo combined with 2 caps of AT-2 and slight nausea. I should be fine when not working out in the morning or cutting back on the stims if I do.
I felt back to normal not long after I got home. My appetite actually made a huge move in the opposite direction because I've been hungry ever since. I'm not sure if people usually experience a hunger increase this fast with ABE, but I've been eating every two hours and my appetite can't be tamed. I've actually been eating oats in between my meals and my stomach still feels like a bottomless pit. If this is how its going to be going forward I'll have no problem keeping up with my high caloric intake...I might actually have to hold myself back for once.
I had my second dose of AT-2 and Erase in the late afternoon which didn't have any noticeable effect on me...not that I really expected it to.
07-16-2012, 07:09 PM
Holy preacher curls that a lot of weight. Good workout Breezy !
I started a new log at:
07-16-2012, 07:13 PM
Thanks man. It's only a machine although I have conquered it...I think I was doing 140 on it about 6 months ago.Originally Posted by fumoney
07-16-2012, 07:24 PM
07-16-2012, 07:26 PM
Thanks bro. Some of them weren't as strong today with how I was feeling.Originally Posted by LiveToLift
07-17-2012, 06:00 AM
My weight took a jump to 205.6lbs (+3.6lbs overall) after a few days off from work, but should drop back down after being out in the humid 100 degree weather today...not looking forward to it. Despite the extra weight, which I think the majority of is water, my appearance is looking fairly dry. I believe Erase is already starting to help in this regard.
I had 2 caps of AT-2 and Erase when I got up this morning before a huge breakfast. I plan on working shoulders tonight so I'll be taking AB Elite pre and post workout. I want to stay with this protocol a couple days and then maybe try some different dosing options before sticking with one for the remainder of the log.
07-17-2012, 09:36 AM
Sorry im a little late but sub'in this log for sure. Really interested in seeing how it works for you
07-17-2012, 11:26 AM
Not late at all Eagles. Thanks for following. I'm interested too, as I only have previous experience with Erase.Originally Posted by Eagles802051
07-17-2012, 11:57 AM
Did you log your first run with Erase? I wouldnt mind looking over how it went. Ive got Erase and DAA sitting in my cart and im just itching for a reason to pull the trigger haha
07-17-2012, 12:06 PM
I have a log with Erase Pro and Compound20 that had good results, but none with Erase solo.Originally Posted by Eagles802051
Lean Gains with USPlabs and PES
07-17-2012, 12:58 PM
Damn Breezy great log man, i just read the entire thing start to finish. Very informative and detailed and also inspirational how you've overcome some pretty big setbacks to what you are now. Congrats man
07-17-2012, 01:08 PM
Day 3 continued
I got out of work early because people were starting to pass out from the heat. With the rest of the day free I'm going to hit the gym early so I can stop by my office and check in. I'm going to see if I can continue to work from home a few more weeks which would allow me to keep working another job during the day...I'm enjoying the dual income.
I just had 2 caps of AB Elite and 1 Erase with a couple chicken/Ezekiel bread sandwiches that I had made for work and will be heading to the gym shortly. I held off on the second dose of AT-2 because I have been eating all day. I'll have to take a food break after my post workout shake so I can fit it in on a somewhat empty stomach. I'm going to use a preworkout again and I don't see it causing a problem unless yesterday's nausea had something to do with ABE.
07-17-2012, 01:09 PM
Thanks man, I appreciate it. Glad you enjoyed it.Originally Posted by Eagles802051
07-17-2012, 01:13 PM
Subbing for sure. This is a stack I definitely want to see the ending to.
07-17-2012, 01:15 PM
Thanks F33NY. Glad to have you along.Originally Posted by F33NY
07-17-2012, 01:21 PM
07-17-2012, 01:53 PM
I'm not planning on any cardio with this stack either. I actually haven't done any in 8+ months. I have pretty good control over my physique through diet and training (without cardio) alone. However, the last month I've been working a physical job and most likely will through the remainder of this log. I'm hoping the supplements will help with any leaning as well.Originally Posted by F33NY
07-17-2012, 06:33 PM
Day 3 continued
I had a solid workout and my shoulders felt like they were worked to their full potential. I continued the trend of slowing down the tempo, focusing on the negative portion of most lifts, and pausing in both the stretched and contracted position. This approach has caused a dip in some of my previous numbers, but my goal wasn't to increase weight. I'll most likely switch things up next week and pick up the pace a little.
I had no issues with nausea today and felt great throughout my workout.
BB Military Press
Behind Neck Press
DB Press (focused on bringing weight down wide as possible w/o snapping shoulder)
BB Upright Row
Rear Delt Fly (machine)
DB Front Raise
DB Lateral Raise
Seated DB Lateral Raise (bent over)
My shoulders felt like they were going to pop after the supersets and I had somewhat of a pump during a good portion of my workout. I can't fully attribute this to the stack at this point because I usually train mainly for strength and pumps don't happen that often because of it. I'll have a better idea after a few more workouts if AB Elite is adding to it.
I had 2 caps of AB Elite with a post workout shake consisting of protein and oats and had my second dose (1cap) of AT-2 a little while ago on a relatively empty stomach. AT-2 was taken later than I would have liked due to my schedule being switched around today.
07-17-2012, 08:15 PM
10 sets of different presses. Your shoulders must have blown up like cannonballs. Great workout !
I started a new log at:
07-17-2012, 08:18 PM
Thanks fu. Haha yeah they were feeling it. I'm probably going to start rotating the presses because its a little overkill.Originally Posted by fumoney
07-17-2012, 09:15 PM
07-17-2012, 09:42 PM
Welcome! Thanks for following.Originally Posted by pmdied
07-18-2012, 04:31 AM
Good weight being moved around in here
07-18-2012, 05:25 AM
Thanks Budman. It should only go up from here...at least that's the planOriginally Posted by Budman7811
07-18-2012, 05:37 AM
Holy volume workout Batman!
You did more reps for your shoulders in one routine than I have done in the past month lol.
Great detail so far Matt, I love it.
07-18-2012, 05:54 AM
Thanks Ben. Yeah my volume has been increased quite a bit over the last few months. It's been bringing good results so I haven't dropped it back down yet...I am highly considering it though.Originally Posted by bdcc
07-18-2012, 06:03 AM
My weight was 204.6lbs (+2.6lbs overall) this morning. I had a very short work day yesterday and think I'm still holding on to some water.
I had 2 caps each of AT-2 and Erase on an empty stomach right after waking up. I plan on working out tonight and will dose AB Elite pre and post.
The big hunger increase of a couple days ago hasn't been as strong since, so I'm not sure if it was related to ABE in any way. I noticed this morning my vascularity was prominent which isn't a normal occurence when waking up. I'll be keeping an eye on this going forward.
07-18-2012, 06:14 AM
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