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    Today's workout was just kinda so- so. I felt pretty drained and fatigued so it was hard to really push through the workout. I hung in there and my numbers on the sets didn't really suffer. But I definitely had a lack of energy that stuck with me all day.

    On a positive note, the Endosurge is doing GREAT things for my sleep at night. I don't wake up very easily now and sleep much deeper. I'm really enjoying those effects.

    Haven't noticed any differences in body composition lately at all, but I'm not really complaining. My main goal right now is to maintain my current physical state and strength. So far....so good!


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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Today's workout was just kinda so- so. I felt pretty drained and fatigued so it was hard to really push through the workout. I hung in there and my numbers on the sets didn't really suffer. But I definitely had a lack of energy that stuck with me all day.

    On a positive note, the Endosurge is doing GREAT things for my sleep at night. I don't wake up very easily now and sleep much deeper. I'm really enjoying those effects.

    Haven't noticed any differences in body composition lately at all, but I'm not really complaining. My main goal right now is to maintain my current physical state and strength. So far....so good!


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    In the shape you are in just maintaining will be more work then most people could bare... You are focking ripped dude and to even hope to get more shredded in a short time would be some what crazy! :-) It would be so easy to take a step back in that shape so just to hear you aren't losing anything is an accomplishment in itself!
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    Your military always gets me.

    Boulders for delts bro!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift

    In the shape you are in just maintaining will be more work then most people could bare... You are focking ripped dude and to even hope to get more shredded in a short time would be some what crazy! :-) It would be so easy to take a step back in that shape so just to hear you aren't losing anything is an accomplishment in itself!
    Yeh, I agree and can tell you that maintaining low bodyfat is a chore in itself. It can get away from ya so quick if you slip up for a week. Then at the same time you are trying to build and maintain muscle. Its quite the balancing act....progress is slower this way, but effective...and I think I'm starting to get a decent handle on things
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM
    Rick is a logging machine!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by morry
    Your military always gets me.

    Boulders for delts bro!
    Thanks! Means a lot coming from a true Beast such as yourself!
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    Cardio/burn day

    I wanted to fill up a bunch with carbs yesterday and I think i did that well. I looked very full this morning and scale weight was back up to 166.5 early AM.

    Body composition looks basically the same as it was on the SARMS. The only difference I've seen is the vascularity isnt as insane as it was on the androgenic S4, but bodyfat, muscle mass, and weight all remain the same. Gym performance on strength hasn't suffered any either.

    45 minutes cardio this morning

    30 minutes running 8 MPH for 400 Cal's

    15 minutes HIIT elliptical for 200 Cal's

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    I may do some light incline treadmill tonight for 30 minutes or so
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13

    Yeh, I agree and can tell you that maintaining low bodyfat is a chore in .itself. It can get away from ya so quick if you slip up for a week. Then at the same time you are trying to build and maintain muscle. Its quite the balancing act....progress is slower this way, but effective...and I think I'm starting to get a decent handle on things
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    I'm late but I'll be following. Thanks for logging Endosurge!
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    I think someone hasnt figured out the multi quote button yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88
    I think someone hasnt figured out the multi quote button yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88
    I think someone hasnt figured out the multi quote button yet
    Hahaha!! They don't have that option on mobile smart ass!....lol
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    Hahaha!! They don't have that option on mobile smart ass!....lol
    Well it didnt say you were on mobile plus your sig showed up... smart ass haha.
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    Well, for some reason I'm holding a little water right now it looks like. Weight was 165.5 after burning a good amount of cals and Yesterday was pretty much zero carb and lots of cardio, so its not from carbs. Its either sodium or some water retained from the DAA. I will know in a couple days when i do another burn day I will know more because I will drop sodium. If weight is still up it will be the DAA doing it.

    Workout went well today. I matched all previous PRs set last week. I didn't try to increase but I'm happy with what I maintained. I felt great so endosurge may be kicking in well right now. Can't wait to see what the next 3 weeks bring as I'm only at my 7th day right now!


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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Well, for some reason I'm holding a little water right now it looks like. Weight was 165.5 after burning a good amount of cals and Yesterday was pretty much zero carb and lots of cardio, so its not from carbs. Its either sodium or some water retained from the DAA. I will know in a couple days when i do another burn day I will know more because I will drop sodium. If weight is still up it will be the DAA doing it.

    Workout went well today. I matched all previous PRs set last week. I didn't try to increase but I'm happy with what I maintained. I felt great so endosurge may be kicking in well right now. Can't wait to see what the next 3 weeks bring as I'm only at my 7th day right now!


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    Might not be water ... I find when I look deflated I get pretty smooth looking...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

    Might not be water ... I find when I look deflated I get pretty smooth looking...
    Well another thing, is that I've definitely lost that great hardness that S4 gave me and that can explain some of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Well another thing, is that I've definitely lost that great hardness that S4 gave me and that can explain some of it
    Yah the hardness from these products does not last forever, that's whey they're for peaking but I remember coming of EPI-V it took a few weeks but I got softer.
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    Hey rick, I have to ask you a question cos I think you're the best person to answer it:

    How does it feel to hold 6% bodyfat for good?

    I've done 2 bb shows and am prepping for my third one, and am thinking of trying to hold the condition afterwards. The thing is when I am dieting/maintaining low bf, I just dont feel myself, I dont know what it is it must be hormonal, I just feel kind of anti social and tense would be the best way to describe it, always on edge and stressed for no reason, not to mention always hungry..Just not myself in general.

    Can you relate to this at all? :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by hungryH
    Hey rick, I have to ask you a question cos I think you're the best person to answer it:

    How does it feel to hold 6% bodyfat for good?

    I've done 2 bb shows and am prepping for my third one, and am thinking of trying to hold the condition afterwards. The thing is when I am dieting/maintaining low bf, I just dont feel myself, I dont know what it is it must be hormonal, I just feel kind of anti social and tense would be the best way to describe it, always on edge and stressed for no reason, not to mention always hungry..Just not myself in general.

    Can you relate to this at all? :P
    I think its actually not hard to maintain at all with intermittent fasting. I don't have any of those problems, but my mind likes to play tricks on me all the time. When pretty low in bodyfat you start to get hyper critical of everything physical and it can become almost obsessive (just ask my wife). I've noticed being in a bad mood all day because my ABS wash out a little from holding water, or vascularity is down. Conversely I get down on myself when I'm depleted because I think I'm losing size. Its just mind games and I've pretty much learned them and i deal with things much better, but I still have my moments from time to time
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    I think its actually not hard to maintain at all with intermittent fasting. I don't have any of those problems, but my mind likes to play tricks on me all the time. When pretty low in bodyfat you start to get hyper critical of everything physical and it can become almost obsessive (just ask my wife). I've noticed being in a bad mood all day because my ABS wash out a little from holding water, or vascularity is down. Conversely I get down on myself when I'm depleted because I think I'm losing size. Its just mind games and I've pretty much learned them and i deal with things much better, but I still have my moments from time to time
    yep, I'm exactly the same hahaha

    I tried intermittent fasting and it's just not for me.. Well sure I'll try anyway and see how it goes lol, I dont even want to get any bigger, I'd say it won't last long though seeing as though I feel if I amen't improving myself by either losing fat or gaining size its not worth it
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    Quote Originally Posted by hungryH

    yep, I'm exactly the same hahaha

    I tried intermittent fasting and it's just not for me.. Well sure I'll try anyway and see how it goes lol, I dont even want to get any bigger, I'd say it won't last long though seeing as though I feel if I amen't improving myself by either losing fat or gaining size its not worth it


    Intermittent fasting set up for lean bulk or recomp is a very slow process and at times it feels like you really aren't making a lot of progress, but after a few months go by you can really see the results. It may take a couple months to gain 2 lbs of muscle natty if you are trying to keep bodyfat from increasing. Its easy to just jump on a straight bulk and make the scale move, but you have to ask yourself how much muscle you really are gaining compared to all the fat. Its all about what works best for you, but I do like the fact that i know whatever gains I do make are 100% lean!
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    Cardio/burn day

    I kinda went way overboard on both Cal's and carbs yesterday, and it shows today for sure. I weighed in at 167.5 this morning with definite noticeable bloat. I looked pretty big but definitely washed out. I will be cleaning it up today and tomorrow so I'm not worried about it.

    I'm hoping that with recent increases in Cal's I can add some LBM. I know it will be at a snails pace, and I'm fine with that until I get into the summer and the "fun stuff" but hopefully I can be around 167 lean dry weight by that time. I think gaining a couple lbs natty is realistic. Most important to me is of course maintaining sub6% bodyfat for the next 6 months!

    This mornings cardio was 30 minutes jogging at 8 MPH (3.75 miles and 415 Cal's burned)

    If I am lucky, I will see if Endosurge has helped libido tonight!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13

    Intermittent fasting set up for lean bulk or recomp is a very slow process and at times it feels like you really aren't making a lot of progress, but after a few months go by you can really see the results. It may take a couple months to gain 2 lbs of muscle natty if you are trying to keep bodyfat from increasing. Its easy to just jump on a straight bulk and make the scale move, but you have to ask yourself how much muscle you really are gaining compared to all the fat. Its all about what works best for you, but I do like the fact that i know whatever gains I do make are 100% lean!
    I can tell IF is working well for me. Recomp feels much easier this way. Helps me feel full and in control of my diet. Knowing in X hours I will be able to eat well.
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    Cardio day/burn day once again today. I'm definitely still holding some water. Yesterday was very clean and I had almost no carbs except trace amounts and I'm sure i was under 20g for the day. Despite that, my weight was still up to 167 and I could tell in the mirror that i had some water retention. I'm beginning to think my estrogen may be coming up a little from the DAA and that is what is causing it. I might add an AI in soon. I really don't like not being able to get the dry look I normally see after a good burn day.

    I did a full 60 minute session of cardio. The first 30 minutes I ran the treadmill at 8.4 MPH and got about 4 miles in. Then the next 30 minutes I spent walking the incline 10% @ 3.5 MPH. My total burn was 975 Cal's and I sweated buckets. Enough that afterwards I looked a lot more dry and looked to be holding much less water.

    I gave Endosurge the old libido test last night. My libido has increased some for sure, but its still down from where I think it should be normally. It was still nice to see an improvement after being on Endo 1 week.

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    Great job maintaining cycle weight and muscle Rick, you have been killing it. Yeah the Endo almost always requires an AI too so with the DAA also you definitely will want one. I am sure you have several options around the house go ahead and hop on one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Great job maintaining cycle weight and muscle Rick, you have been killing it. Yeah the Endo almost always requires an AI too so with the DAA also you definitely will want one. I am sure you have several options around the house go ahead and hop on one of them.
    What are your options for an AI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73
    Great job maintaining cycle weight and muscle Rick, you have been killing it. Yeah the Endo almost always requires an AI too so with the DAA also you definitely will want one. I am sure you have several options around the house go ahead and hop on one of them.
    Thanks man! Yeh I would say I am maintaining 100% of my weight and strength as well as keeping from gaining any fat also, so I can't complain.

    I will definitely get on an AI then starting tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT

    What are your options for an AI?
    On hand I have Erase pro, Formastanozol, and a couple bottles of post cycle.

    Im thinking of jumping on the post cycle and trying that out. I just got done with Forma a month or so ago, and I kinda already have plans for the Erase pro this summer. The post cycle also has some milk thistle to help clean the liver too which I'm sure i could use
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    I didnt have much time to update yesterday, so I'm posting yesterdays workout now before todays workout. The workout went incredible and I really cant be any happier with how this mild PCT is going. I'm feeling pretty damn good right now, and since adding the AI in a couple days ago I an already notice less water retention so all is going well. I hit some PRs on my orkout on my chest DB work. For the first time I was able to get 100lb DBs for 10 reps on flat bench. They felt good, and I may be ready to see what I can do with 105s the next time I do them. I also hit a PR on incline DBs as well, so all in all everything is going better than expected. Mantaining strength is all I asked and I seem to still be exceeding that!

    I'm getting ready to hit the gym again this morning doing some Back/bicep work and hoping for the same type of results that I had with my chest workout!

    On a seperate note, I did some bloods yesterday for my insurance through work. there will be no hormone panel done, but it should be a good indicator when they come back of if and how SARMS can impact liver and cholesterol values considering the test was done just after a week of coming off the sarms. So if and when I get that info I will also post that up...

    Now I'm off to kil that sh1t!!




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    DB Flat Bench
    90sx13 (PR)
    100sx10x8 (PR)
    95sx9
    90sx9

    DB incline Bench
    80sx12 (PR)
    85sx10x9x9 (PR)
    80sx10

    Cable Flyes
    80x11
    85x10x9
    80x10
    75x12

    Tricep pushdowns
    110x12
    120x11
    130x9
    120x10
    110x11

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    Cool curious on those bloods and I think that the Post Cycle may be good enough for an AI, not too strong but enough to be effective.
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    Nice flat DB #s Rick!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73
    Cool curious on those bloods and I think that the Post Cycle may be good enough for an AI, not too strong but enough to be effective.
    Yeh that's what I figured. Should be great for something like this.

    I am curious and interested on what the bloods will show also
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    Quote Originally Posted by morry
    Nice flat DB #s Rick!!!
    Thanks Morry! Still have a ways to go to hang with the way you throw them 110s around!
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    Today's workout went decent for the most part. It started out looking like strength was going to be down but it turned around after a few sets and by the time I was in my second exercise I hit a PR on DB rows. Starting out on tbars they just felt heavy though, and 225 was down a couple reps from last week. Maybe I just had a bad start because everything else went well afterwards.

    I can tell that I'm still holding some water, and vascularity also appears down because of the water retention, but on a positive side my measurements on arms, chest, etc are up because of it and my size looks more impressive. Hopefully soon I will be able to dry out enough with the help of the AI. Body composition appears to be unchanged the best I can tell, but it is hard to judge that accurately when retaining water. Weight was 166 this morning.


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    BW x 20

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    180x12
    225x7
    205x9
    190x10

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    110sx10
    115sx9 (PR)
    110sx9
    105sx10

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    285x10
    300x9
    315x8
    300x9

    Lat pulldowns (close grip)
    180x10x10x10

    DB hammer curls
    50sx11x11x10

    Bisolator
    220x11x11x10
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