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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatsaRoid? View Post
    Where do you get these pictures from hahaha

    I'm subbed to your log as well, I have to td form I'm going to use then try this a month after to see which I like better. When you did td form where did you put it on your body for best effect?

    Also what effects are you looking for with pp form?
    i am a big fan of td form, but it isn't always convenient or practical to use. i am hoping foemestane lv will be a viable oral alternative. looking for same kind of results as td- leaning/strength/aggression/libido boost/well being. pm sent.
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    dosed at 2ml pm dose. will start 2ml in am/1ml afternoon/2ml pm tomorrow. hoping upping the dose will speed up results.
    just a side note-2ml did cause a little aftertaste, but passed soon after drinking 12oz of water. no big deal, just something i thought worth noting.
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    I am subbing to see if I want to pick this up in the future or just run the TD since Idc who gets infected with Form anyway lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i will do my best, still waiting on results from bloods done last week-liver values take forever to get back.
    Sucks that it's takin forever...not to highjack your sheit...but I'm currently takin PP's milk thistle and my liver values were pretty high before I started PP's milk thistle from a Phera/SD cycle....I tell ya...I like what I'm seeing...have bloods for liver values before, intra and will do post by late next wk or the following wk...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i am a big fan of td form, but it isn't always convenient or practical to use. i am hoping foemestane lv will be a viable oral alternative. looking for same kind of results as td- leaning/strength/aggression/libido boost/well being. pm sent.
    Definitely interested for the same reason. People seem to be liking the LV delivery system... Formestane is just one of those weird hormones that just doesn't seem to do well without it being transdermal... I know that Formex didn't hold a candle to topical form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogz View Post
    Sucks that it's takin forever...not to highjack your sheit...but I'm currently takin PP's milk thistle and my liver values were pretty high before I started PP's milk thistle from a Phera/SD cycle....I tell ya...I like what I'm seeing...have bloods for liver values before, intra and will do post by late next wk or the following wk...
    it takes longer to get in your system orally than td. btw-my ast's are 42 only 1 point above normal, but alt's are high-54 with 0-45 being normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    Definitely interested for the same reason. People seem to be liking the LV delivery system... Formestane is just one of those weird hormones that just doesn't seem to do well without it being transdermal... I know that Formex didn't hold a candle to topical form.

    You'll be a good bar to judge from BigT!
    i feel the same about formex, hoping for much better results with the formestane lv. yes i have been hearing good things about the lv delivery also with the sustain, but it seems to take longer to start working with lv than it does td so i remain hopeful.
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    bumped the am dose to 2ml this morning, getting ready to do 1ml for afternoon dose and then 2ml for pm dose. still not seeing much in way of results but bumping dose should speed things along.
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    just took pm dose-2ml. going to take my am dose-2ml after work then head to gym. i got a little pissy with my wife tonight, might be aggression is up or i was just being a diick.
    all is well we kissed and made up!
    libido seems to be doing very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet View Post
    Keep it up t, hope you find your sweet spot...
    i think i am getting close. workout was good, strength and endurance seemed to be up slightly. was a little short on patience last night at work, aggression must be climbing. my libido has been very high before starting formestane lv- but it sure hasn't hurt it any. mood is good, overall well being good.
    going to continue with 2/1/2 dosing-it seems to be working.



    as a side note- the oral dosing is very convenient, i can take it with me and do a dose almost anywhere.
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    just took pm dose-1ml. not saying it has fully kicked in, but starting to see signs of effects starting. hope it will help shed some water weight, test cyp causes me to hold water. i have dropped 16lbs, only want to drop 4 more-shedding some water will really help to bring out definition.
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    took am dose and went to gym, had a good workout-strength was about the same but endurance/aggression seemed up. weighed in at 212, only 2lbs away from goal. looked leaner, possibly some water loss from the form lv. results seem very slight so far, still hoping for better. i think the higher dosing is going to be needed for me, so i will go to the max dose of 6ml today- going to split it into 3 doses of 2/2/2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet View Post
    Go get em t!
    , i appreciate the support!
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    Looking forward to see how the max dose effects you bro!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    took am dose and went to gym, had a good workout-strength was about the same but endurance/aggression seemed up. weighed in at 212, only 2lbs away from goal. looked leaner, possibly some water loss from the form lv. results seem very slight so far, still hoping for better. i think the higher dosing is going to be needed for me, so i will go to the max dose of 6ml today- going to split it into 3 doses of 2/2/2.
    Bang it out bigT

    Dumb question, but 6ml...is that 180mg of formestane?
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    What are the effects YOU want? I know some like the physical effects from topical while others only care for the aggresion/strength/libido.
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    Hi guys, I am really new at bb, I just wanted to ask if you know anything about AIs, like IBE formex, was it really discontinued and if there's anything that has the same molecule, can you guys tell me where to get PPS formestane? I've learned about this AI yesterday.

    A) I am 24, my situation is I've taken medium-high doses of Guggul / Guggulsterone / guggulipid for my acne in 2006 which made me start losing hair all over my body (diffused, eyebrows, beard, armpits, arm, legs, scalp, everything; my theory is since it blocks cholesterol production via FXR inhibition, it affected hair growth, in the same way that statins also has hair loss as side effect) and now I am starting to lose a lot in my scalp and had developed a pattern. The body hair has started coming back with me using taurine and grape seed extract both orally and transdermally.

    B) So I've tried taking DHT inhibitors like Beta Sitosterol, and a bit of genistein (soy), Vitex, EGCG. Now I have this tummy (most probably visceral fat) and bloated face even though I am way skinny everywhere else.

    C) I am currently about 10 lbs overweight which I believe is brought by estradiol / estrogen dominance from taking those DHT inhibitors. I tried taking DIM (for about 3 weeks only, bad choice, made me shed even worse) and Nettle Root (not Divanil, just briefly, i got scared of further shedding).

    D) Should I get the topical Formex (if there is one) to apply them on my abdomen and face to slim them down, or take it orally?

    Thank you to everyone for taking time.
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    Wow, I say stop experimenting and go see a doctor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatsaRoid? View Post
    Wow, I say stop experimenting and go see a doctor.
    i 2nd that! wow-you are taking one supp to cure one symptom while creating another new one-see a doc right away and see what is going on.
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    this is the biggest most exciting log ive seen you do since march 1st 2010!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    What are the effects YOU want? I know some like the physical effects from topical while others only care for the aggresion/strength/libido.
    aggression/strength and libido are results i am looking for, also the test cyp has caused water weight gain from aromatase-looking to shed some of the water weight.
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    had to take my father in law to hospital last night and spent the night and most of the day there with him. so i missed several doses, but took a dose a few hours ago and will still take pm dose.

    doc's say he is out of immediate danger, but taking another night off from work tonight to be on stand by. my wife was pretty shaken up, my work is pretty understanding and i just told them my place is with my wife and family. if necessary i will take vacation days to cover absence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    had to take my father in law to hospital last night and spent the night and most of the day there with him. so i missed several doses, but took a dose a few hours ago and will still take pm dose.

    doc's say he is out of immediate danger, but taking another night off from work tonight to be on stand by. my wife was pretty shaken up, my work is pretty understanding and i just told them my place is with my wife and family. if necessary i will take vacation days to cover absence.
    Hope he's doing OK.
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    same here man!
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    thanks guys! he went coma like due to super low blood sugar [19], due to new meds to control his borderline diabetes. he said he felt much better today-docs said it would take 36 hours to clear his system. they gave him a reeses cup and real sugar for sweetening when his sugar dipped to 36 this morning-1st time he has had sugar in awhile and he was excited about that, lol.
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    Hope everything turns out good for you and the wife T.

    ..And I always get excited about Reese's cups..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattikus View Post
    Hope everything turns out good for you and the wife T.

    ..And I always get excited about Reese's cups..
    hahaha, me too- but krispy kremes are my vice, lol.
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    Hope he gets well, my grandpa had the same problem
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    Hope he gets well, my grandpa had the same problem
    thanks big, and i hope your grandpa is doing well now!
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    Glad to hear he is doing better. Family first man!
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    Hi, I did stop taking GUggul, Genistein, and Beta Sitosterol. I no longer take them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    thanks big, and i hope your grandpa is doing well now!
    He is with the big man
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver3CSRT8 View Post
    Glad to hear he is doing better. Family first man!
    absolutely! thats a no-brainer!silver!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    He is with the big man
    sorry big, losing a loved one is always tough.
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    Thank you, sir for the quick reply. I am sorry for hijacking your thread, I didn't mean to.

    I did go see an endocrinologist last year, but she simply brushed me off and only approved of a total testosterone blood count (about ~456). She did not check anything else. My serum ferritin is within normal range but my serum iron is borderline low.

    I wanted her to check a full hormone panel but she declined. They are probably trying to save expenses. Now I no longer have insurance. :'(

    EDIT: what I really would like to know though is an alternative to IBE Formex because I read that it is no longer being sold. IBE formex is both anti-dht (5-ar blocker i guess?) and AI.
    I would want to try a low dose of that. Would you sir know any alternative to this? Formestane (4-hydroxyandrostenedione) is only an AI, could i mix this with a separate dht inhibitor?
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    No offense but please stop clogging up a sponsored log

    start your own thread, get your own responses and everyone gets what they want
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul2009 View Post
    Thank you, sir for the quick reply. I am sorry for hijacking your thread, I didn't mean to.

    I did go see an endocrinologist last year, but she simply brushed me off and only approved of a total testosterone blood count (about ~456). She did not check anything else. My serum ferritin is within normal range but my serum iron is borderline low.

    I wanted her to check a full hormone panel but she declined. They are probably trying to save expenses. Now I no longer have insurance. :'(
    take some time off all supplements, give yourself some time to normalize. then reintroduce a good multi. maybe you could ask trauma1 for some advice, whatever you have going on is above my giving you advice other than trying to self medicate doesn't seem to be working for you.
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    I hope all is well with your father-in-law, Tom. Prayers go out to your family.

    I actually tried the Formestane-LV for the first time myself today. I'm adding this in to mitigate the estrogen environment before I start my Dbol/Test cycle this week. I'm psyched.

    Anyway, I wanted to offer some of my own thoughts on what I experienced. I know I'm affiliated with Pp, but I think you guys know I'm not a bullsh*tter either. I've used transdermal Formestane in the past many times and I always have had the "euphoric" effect not long after dosing. I tried a 2ml dose this morning. Within about an hour, I had almost the same type of "euphoric" effect overall. It lasted a good 2 hours. I don't have much else to report obviously, but I thought that was interesting in comparing it to my own previous experiences.

    Nice job on your log, Tom. I know I picked the right man here to test this to the limit, haha.

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