Originally Posted by B5150

Simply using AP in the fasted state is mediocre at best. 1-AP/2-Recreate/2g 1-C is ideal. I add green tea extract and yohimbine as well. I simply cannot lose weight but lean out and fill out considerably as I recomp myself until I am contented.

Yeah, it is a combination of things that make it successful.

Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier

Yeah, it is a combination of things that make it successful.

Yes it is. Let me refresh the audience:

To tell you the truth, fasted states in conjunction with products which induce, and following, utilize lipolysis are absolutely fantastic. If you are lifting immediately after waking, may I suggest forgoing the Pre-WO shake? Glucose provides only 1/3 of the energy for anaerobic cellular reactions, and the combination of both PowerFULL and ReCreate modulating lipolysis pathways produces very strong workouts.

Whether we choose to utilize them or not, the process of lipolysis liberates stored fatty acids into our blood stream in the form of triglycerides - by engaging in anaerobic exercise, we use these newly liberated FFAs for cellular exertion (as I said, fatty acid oxidation comprises about 2/3 energy use in an anaerobic movement). This protocol merely utilizes energy which would have been wasted in a normal protocol, while ensuring that proper Post-WO nutrition is undertaken.

Anabolic Pump is often conceptualized as merely a supplement of glucose homeostasis. While that's true in part, its true identity is one of energy metabolism as a whole; specifically, modulating energy expenditure and transfer in both fat and muscle cells, via the modulation of energy storage and production mechanisms.

During a long bout of exercise (i.e., an hour long resistance training session) your body's energy homeostasis mechanisms need to take on a more oxidative (the B-oxidation of fatty acids) as opposed to glycolytic (GLUT4 translocation and glucose storage) role. This is due in part to the inability of the body to produce the fuel (glucose) for anabolic processes at the rates needed for anaerobic exercise. In response, your body has in place several mechanisms which prevent the accumulation and synthesis of triglycerides and lipids, and release them into the bloodstream to be oxidized.

These lipolytic processes actually contribute to the majority of energy transaction in a bout of anaerobic exercise - the oxidation of fatty acids and plasma triglycerides, primarily, provide the energy for resistance training.

The reason I mention all this is Anabolic Pump's fascinating ability to regulate one of the vanguards of oxidative and glycolytic energy consumption - AMPk. AMPk works as an essential gate-keeper of energy production, reacting to extracellular fluctuations of various downstream energy messengers (AMP:ATP ratio included). Its activation is responsible for various roles, including all of the above mentioned.

Using such a product in conjunction with fasted cardio simply utilizes energy which would have been stored anyway. The mere presence of AMPk ensures that the liberated fatty acids and triglycerides will be oxidized as it plays a primary role in not only lipolysis, but the inhibition of lipid, triglyceride, and cholesterol synthesis.

In terms of blood glucose, you should have circulating plasma levels which are enough to stave off hypoglycaemia, even with the use of Anabolic Pump. As carbohydrates have not been ingested, the presence of Insulin (the main inducer of hypoglycemia) is not necessarily present. Anabolic Pump works through Insulin-reactive, though not dependent, pathways of energy metabolism. The lipolytic role is also enough to provide ample energy.

Hope that helps!

On the Euphoric note, keep in mind that the latest neurobiological research is elucidating connections between essentially fatty-acids, lipid and triglycerides synthesis and metabolism, and dopamine (and thereby serotonin) receptor subtypes in the brain.

As well, AMPk is a master regulatory switch for all cellular energy transactions; including those which occur on the molecular level (i.e., brain cell mitochondria). The combination of ReCreate and AP is producing fluctuations in AMP:ATP ratio, possibly in the hypothalamus. You are embarking on a great number of cellular reactions, and as your ATP lowers (as a response to energy demand), AMPk will tell your body (including your brain) to produce, produce, produce! In your brain's case, this means the production of energy and the stimulation of neurons.

Couple this with increased levels of norepinephrine, hypothalamic ATP, and Caffeine, and you have a very prominent anabolic AND euphoric response. I have tried many protocols myself, but the one I have layed out for you B is the most physiologically complete.

Wax-on, wax-off

Originally Posted by B5150

Yes it is. Let me refresh the audience:

Wax-on, wax-off

Very glad it still works for you, Brian! Let me know if your current plan needs any tweaks!

I used exactly that protocol, as well as yohimbine. Nothing much for fat loss, but again, I enjoyed the muscular endurance it gave me. It's in one of my logs here. I believe the Controlled Labs one.

Originally Posted by B5150

Simply using AP in the fasted state is mediocre at best. 1-AP/2-Recreate/2g 1-C is ideal. I add green tea extract and yohimbine as well. I simply cannot lose weight but lean out and fill out considerably as I recomp myself until I am contented.

Yah I am in exactly the same boat, my weight stays around the same but I get coniderably leaner and bigger as time goes by. Slow steady recomp... that's the ticket!

Originally Posted by B5150

Simply using AP in the fasted state is mediocre at best. 1-AP/2-Recreate/2g 1-C is ideal. I add green tea extract and yohimbine as well. I simply cannot lose weight but lean out and fill out considerably as I recomp myself until I am contented.

As you can see, this is very similar to what I use. I added NP Green Tea this morning...

So I made the decision over the weekend that I am starting the 5/3/1 today. I think it is going to be exactly what I need:
1. Conditioning
2. Fat Loss
3. Increase in strength
4. Increase in lean body mass
5. Allows me to move "North of Vag" - You would know what I was talking about if you ready the 5/3/1 book...


6/15 - 5/3/1 day 1!

730am: PILL SLAMIN'

• 1 Anabolic-Pump
• 3 Recreate
• 7.5mg Yobama HCL
• 3 PowerFULL
• 1 500mg NP Green Tea cap

8am-9am fasted conditioning work @ the (Sox-Harrison) Stadium

• 4 scoops Scivation Xtend
• 2 scoops DominATP

Worked Performed:

• ~105lb Sled drag from shoulders - 1 runs (40 yds down, 40 yds back)
• ~150lb SPRINT Sled drag from shoulders - 5 runs (40 yds down, 40 yds back)
• Bull Strength Tire Conditioning - Mock Wood Chops, Standing Core Work, etc. See below.

These sprints kicked my ass. Unreal. I am so out of condition, I hope that I can regain it in the next few weeks.

Song Choice:
I usually have metal blaring out of the back of my Equinox... This was the most memorable song of the day...

YouTube - PanterA - Sandblasted Skin (Reprise)

Post conditioning meal

• 1 Red Delicious Apple
• .5c Oats
• 2.5 scoops ATW Cinnabun Whey

Meal 2.......

• 6oz Baked, Seasoned Chicken Breast
• 1 Slice Full Flavor Pepper Jack Cheese
• 1c Fresh Strawberries

Supplements

• 2 NutraPlanet Bulk Fish Oil Caps
• 1 NOW SuperEnzyme

Soundtrack of the moment...

YouTube - STRAPPING YOUNG LAD - Love? (OFFICIAL VIDEO)

Meal Thrice (Supah-Shake)

• 1 scoop PB Chocolate ATW Whey Blend
• 1.5 scoops Chocolate Muscle Milk
• 1c Whole Fresh Strawberries
• 1c Oats
• 1 scoop Nimbus Nutrition Posidon (i forgot i had it!!!)
• 5g NutraPlanet Bulk L-Lucine

Supplements

• 2 USPlabs Anabolic-Pump (20mins prior to meal)
• 2 USPlabs SuperCissus Rx
• 1 GNC Max Greens Vitapak
• 1 NutraPlanet Fish Oil Cap

Soundtrack of the moment...
Death Cab.......

Originally Posted by borobulker

Meal Thrice (Supah-Shake)

• 1 scoop PB Chocolate ATW Whey Blend
• 1.5 scoops Chocolate Muscle Milk
• 1c Whole Fresh Strawberries
• 1c Oats
• 1 scoop Nimbus Nutrition Posidon (i forgot i had it!!!)
• 5g NutraPlanet Bulk L-Lucine

Supplements

• 2 USPlabs Anabolic-Pump (20mins prior to meal)
• 2 USPlabs SuperCissus Rx
• 1 GNC Max Greens Vitapak

Does Muscle Milk bloat you as it bloats me? I find it terrible. P.S., I hate you .

Soundtrack of the moment...
Death Cab.......For Cutie? Say it ain't so!

Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier

Does Muscle Milk bloat you as it bloats me? I find it terrible. P.S., I hate you .

Soundtrack of the moment...
Death Cab.......For Cutie? Say it ain't so!

MM does not bloat me near as bad as any other casein/milk proteins... I have a tub of Myofusion that just about kills me if i try to use 1 scoop.

Death Cab for Cutie buddy... Read it and weep...

Originally Posted by borobulker

MM does not bloat me near as bad as any other casein/milk proteins... I have a tub of Myofusion that just about kills me if i try to use 1 scoop.

Death Cab for Cutie buddy... Read it and weep...

Oh wow, Death Cab for Cutie. Do you listen to them right after From Autumn to Ashes?

Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier

Oh wow, Death Cab for Cutie. Do you listen to them right after From Autumn to Ashes?

I hate you.

Subbed my friend, looking interesting already.

Originally Posted by russianstar

Subbed my friend, looking interesting already.

Thanks buddy!

niiiiiiice.

i think you may be one of the only other people who uses ketchup on chicken strips.

Originally Posted by rolandajoint

niiiiiiice.

i think you may be one of the only other people who uses ketchup on chicken strips.

Hell yes. I am from PA man, I bleed Heinz...

Originally Posted by borobulker

I hate you.

Death Cab is actually good tunes. I was just harassing you because I told you I listened to somebody - can't recall who - and you harassed me about. Sweet revenge.

Originally Posted by rolandajoint

niiiiiiice.

i think you may be one of the only other people who uses ketchup on chicken strips.

I saw that and will have to try it sometime. Although, I'm currently in a blackened grilled chicken phase, and it's quite delicious.

Originally Posted by Irish Cannon

I used exactly that protocol, as well as yohimbine. Nothing much for fat loss, but again, I enjoyed the muscular endurance it gave me. It's in one of my logs here. I believe the Controlled Labs one.

If I keep my carbs to a minimum I can shead weight and fat. If I go moderate I recomp. If I go overboard I swell up like nobodies business.

I never eat more than 50g of carbs post workout. When I am leaning out I can go as low as 25g with trace amounts throughout the day. Experiment with your carb intake.

Just my $0.02

Originally Posted by B5150

If I keep my carbs to a minimum I can shead weight and fat. If I go moderate I recomp. If I go overboard I swell up like nobodies business.

I never eat more than 50g of carbs post workout. hen I lean out I can go as low as 25g with trace amounts throughout the day. Experiment with your carb intake.

Just my $0.02

This could have been the difference. I think I was slamming quite a few carbs post-workout. I was hardly taking in any throughout the day, but my post-training meal was like 120g/C or something like that. I really tightened up, but I didn't really shed all the fat I was expecting to. Again, it could have been the carb thing.

Thanks for the advice.

Originally Posted by borobulker

MM does not bloat me near as bad as any other casein/milk proteins... I have a tub of Myofusion that just about kills me if i try to use 1 scoop.

Death Cab for Cutie buddy... Read it and weep...

you want some easy listening.....

belle and sebastian - if youre feeling sinister
bright eyes - cassadaga
portishead - third

GET INTO IT.

Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier

Death Cab is actually good tunes. I was just harassing you because I told you I listened to somebody - can't recall who - and you harassed me about. Sweet revenge.

Speaking on revenge... Have you visited the 'General' sub-forum lately?

Originally Posted by B5150

If I keep my carbs to a minimum I can shead weight and fat. If I go moderate I recomp. If I go overboard I swell up like nobodies business.

I never eat more than 50g of carbs post workout. When I am leaning out I can go as low as 25g with trace amounts throughout the day. Experiment with your carb intake.

Just my $0.02

I need carbs Post workout or I get hypo as hell. I am slowly leading them out of my life though...

Originally Posted by rolandajoint

you want some easy listening.....

belle and sebastian - if youre feeling sinister
bright eyes - cassadaga
portishead - third

GET INTO IT.

Thank you! I love new tunezzzzz.

Originally Posted by borobulker

Speaking on revenge... Have you visited the 'General' sub-forum lately?

I am always in the Politics forum. Something particular I should be seeing?

Pre-Workout Supplements: 30-40 minutes prior to training

• 2.5mg Yohimbanger HCL
• 2 USPlabs Recreate
• 2 USPowders Refresh
• 1 scoop USPlabs Jack3d
• 5 USPlabs PRIME

Intra-Drink: 10 minutes prior to training through last sets

• 4 scoops USPowders DominATP
• 2 scoops Scivation Xtend
• 1 scoop Nimbus Nutrition Poseidon

Post-Workout Shake:

• 1 scoop ATW Cinnabun Whey Blend
• 1 VPX Zero Impact Bar
• 1 scoop Nimbus Nutrition Poseidon

(5/3/1 - Shoulder Press) Training (1 hour, 5 minutes)

• Foam Roller
• Band Assisted Stretching
• 3x15 Band Pull Aparts (Red)
• Band Shoulder Traction (Green) (Great for increasing blood flow to shoulders)
• Standing Should Press - Bar x10, 95x6, 105x5, 125x5, 140x5, 160x11
• Body-weight Dips - 6 sets x 10 reps
• Incline Bench DB Rows - 105x12, 110x12, 115x20
• BB Shrugs - 225x15, 275x15, 315x26

Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier

I am always in the Politics forum. Something particular I should be seeing?

Im just saying... Congrats...

Originally Posted by borobulker

Im just saying... Congrats...

OH SNAP! Pittsburgh?! Haha, tribal better pay up!

Meal 5

• 6oz Baked Chicken Strips
• 2.5c steamed veggies (WITH BABY CORN!!!!!!!!!)
• 1 square of 76% Dark Chocolate
• 1T Honey Mustard
• 16oz Diet Snapple Raspberry

Supplements

• 2 NutraPlanet Bulk Fish Oil caps
• 1 NOW SuperEnzyme

Soundtrack of the moment
Listening to Mulletsoldiers Jonas Brothers CD he let me borrow... Ill get it back next week brahhh