Cut/Recomp Exravaganza of Dream's

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Should be at your door tomorrow Why it went to Ottawa first
    Maybe it went lookin for me where I used to live.. just moved here a year and a half ago...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug


  2. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yah I will take 4 weeks off and then back on for 4 weeks then one week off then 8 weeks with Prime and DTHC.. my summer is mapped out
    I think you're gonna love the Prime/DTHC stack. Just started my 2nd week of a 6-1/2 week run & it kicked in BIG TIME today at the gym. Ran both solo before...together POTENT. Got the stack idea from you on some other thread. Props to you for the suggestion!!
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Migoi View Post
    I think you're gonna love the Prime/DTHC stack. Just started my 2nd week of a 6-1/2 week run & it kicked in BIG TIME today at the gym. Ran both solo before...together POTENT. Got the stack idea from you on some other thread. Props to you for the suggestion!!
    Ahh thanks!! Good to know... it's gonna be a crazy summer...

    Weighed in today... down another 2 lb form a week ago, so 241.6 down a total of 6.4 lbs in less than 3 weeks. If I continue like this I will be around 232 and below 10% more like 9%. Conservatively though it's more likely 235ish and 10%. I have learned not to underestimate these carb cycling type diets though. With the addition of Prime I would not be surprised to see less weight come off and more fat. So 235 and 9% are not out of the question. I'll have to wait and see. Anyway I am right on track, even though I lost a bit more weight than I planned, I am hoping Prime will nip that in the bud, and from all experience I have had with it, that is what I really expect.

    My handles have really diminished so maybe Napalm did do more than I thought. I do still have quite a bit of fat right around my Ceratusus (sp?) and a bit into my chest.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  4. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I do still have quite a bit of fat right around my Ceratusus (sp?)..
    ceratopsids?? that's a dinosaur.
    you're not that old bro!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by snagency View Post
    ceratopsids?? that's a dinosaur.
    you're not that old bro!
    What can I say ... I'm well preserved....

    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug
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  6. Can you guys make any suggestions for me on this?

    DW, I've been running similar to what you were doing...Prime (6 off days 9 work out days), supersap 2x/day, phyto test 2 x2/day and 3 formex on work out days. Ran 40/30/30 at about 3100 cal for 4 weeks and went from 220 to about 228. Now I'm at 50/25/25 and 2700 cal. I want to lean out, my waist is thick and it drives me nuts! although a little better I have love handles and lower back fat. Should I add something for fat burning? I know cardio might be low at 30 minutes 3x/week.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by bubble boy View Post
    Can you guys make any suggestions for me on this?

    DW, I've been running similar to what you were doing...Prime (6 off days 9 work out days), supersap 2x/day, phyto test 2 x2/day and 3 formex on work out days. Ran 40/30/30 at about 3100 cal for 4 weeks and went from 220 to about 228. Now I'm at 50/25/25 and 2700 cal. I want to lean out, my waist is thick and it drives me nuts! although a little better I have love handles and lower back fat. Should I add something for fat burning? I know cardio might be low at 30 minutes 3x/week.
    is that 50/25/25 P/C/F? if so, subtle shift to 50/20/30 and throw in some Recreate..or, 50/30/20 and Recreate+AP..

  8. Quote Originally Posted by snagency View Post
    is that 50/25/25 P/C/F? if so, subtle shift to 50/20/30 and throw in some Recreate..or, 50/30/20 and Recreate+AP..

    Yes, 50/25/25 P/C/F

    Thanks, I'll look into Recreate. AP being Anabolic Pump I assume.?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by bubble boy View Post
    Yes, 50/25/25 P/C/F

    Thanks, I'll look into Recreate. AP being Anabolic Pump I assume.?
    I think AP is the best supp for controling weight as it allows you to take carbs in where you couldn't get away with it before. The difference between this type of dieting and what I used to have to endure is night and day.

    Recreate is a good supp will help you maintain you mass as you cut down. 2700 is fairly low when on Prime. How much do you weigh. When you were on 3100 calories what happened body fat wise. If you did not lose fat at 3100 cals I guess 2700 is ok, however if you add AP you may have to increase your carb intake and total calories. This is where you really have to know your body and how it's responding to the AP.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  10. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I think AP is the best supp for controling weight as it allows you to take carbs in where you couldn't get away with it before. The difference between this type of dieting and what I used to have to endure is night and day.

    Recreate is a good supp will help you maintain you mass as you cut down. 2700 is fairly low when on Prime. How much do you weigh. When you were on 3100 calories what happened body fat wise. If you did not lose fat at 3100 cals I guess 2700 is ok, however if you add AP you may have to increase your carb intake and total calories. This is where you really have to know your body and how it's responding to the AP.


    DW, I'm holding steady between 228 - 230 for the last 3-4 weeks. At 3100 cals I just felt like I was putting on some fat in the waist area. I have been using prime for about 6 weeks so I'm thinking it's time to take 4 weeks off. Not sure how/if that will affect my caloric intake and fat loss if any.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by bubble boy View Post
    DW, I'm holding steady between 228 - 230 for the last 3-4 weeks. At 3100 cals I just felt like I was putting on some fat in the waist area. I have been using prime for about 6 weeks so I'm thinking it's time to take 4 weeks off. Not sure how/if that will affect my caloric intake and fat loss if any.
    With me Prime has a tendancy to use up more calories so I stay pretty lean even when eating a lot. So that being said maybe 2700 will be ok, but if you add AP keep a close eye as you may have to increase calories.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  12. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    With me Prime has a tendancy to use up more calories so I stay pretty lean even when eating a lot. So that being said maybe 2700 will be ok, but if you add AP keep a close eye as you may have to increase calories.

    Thanks DW, I'll stay with 2700 and throw in some recreate and maybe AP a little later down the line.

  13. Last night was just an all out battle. Again did not increase weight but pace was greatly reduced. 45 minutes of absolute mayhem. A lot of the routine was performed at the brink of exhaustion. You know the kind I'm talking about. To my mind this is the goal of a bodybuilding type routine.

    Did fasted morning cardio ( avec AP) .. boy was I drained .. took in some plsin 400 mg then a cup of oats and 3 slices of Ezekiel bread. Was still feeling down when I got to work so I grabbed the biggest Orange I could find (oranges are like caffine to me), that did the trick feeling much better now. It's a high carb day I should be fine from here on in.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  14. Small change in my pre-workout shake this morning ... I found some frozen wild berries in the freezer .. mmmmm wilidberries

    Ok hamstring will bet the full stress test this morning. It feels pretty good with no weight. I can squat down and I don't feel any tension. I will take it easy at first to see how it feels and increase the weight as I go along. Leg curls or direct hamstring work may be unwise we'll see. Who ever said I was wise lol... Hey here's a good place for one of my favourite quotes...

    "It's a fool that thinks himself a wise man, it's a wise man who knows he's a fool" , this quote has tremendous value...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  15. Not the best workout, I only went 230 on front squats ... caution seemed like the wisest choice. I only did light weight on leg curls and skipped sldl again I don't want a serious injury at this time. I felt I still got a decent workout and some good therapy for my sore hammy... I am satisfied with my effort.

    No more early morning shakes for me... too many digestion issues I will just eat a good breakfast 1 cup of oats with some protein a piece of fruit and pslin. I will still have my after workout pslin shake. That morning shake is just going right through me.

    Damn my waist is looking kind of tiny... gotta say I am pretty pleased with my progress in 3 weeks. Seemed to be right on target... I love it when things go according to plan. Makes me think it's a good plan.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug
  16. Thumbs up


    "I love it when a plan comes together!" -George Peppard.

    Good stuff DW.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by snagency View Post
    "I love it when a plan comes together!" -George Peppard.

    Good stuff DW.
    The perfect quote...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  18. Wow!! got up this morning I was looking pretty damn tight... not something I'm used to...

    Pretty sore after last week... feeling a bit run down... but tight and lean. I slept very well last night, could be I'm not getting enough carbs!! Man I can't believe how much I am eating and still losing weight.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  19. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Wow!! got up this morning I was looking pretty damn tight...
    I love this guy's modesty!

    Bring on some pics!!

  20. Quote Originally Posted by snagency View Post
    I love this guy's modesty!

    Bring on some pics!!
    I'll do some at the end of the cut maybe.. I am not prepared for pics.. I haven't done any tanning in 2 years, I have only been removing hair from my back and arms and that is every couple of months.

    I will be down to around 10% but there is some loose skin to deal with (remember I'm a bit long in the tooth). I am making very good progress ...yes but I don't know what people expect from someone my age. Yah I train like a young man but there will be some old man problems still.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  21. Know it well DW. I am sure you rep us old guys well!!
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  22. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Know it well DW. I am sure you rep us old guys well!!
    Thanks ...yah I'm doing well I know I am, but there's definitely some issues. I have about 13 months left to prep so I have plenty of time if I decide to hit the stage again. I am hoping to stay lean all year round which will take care of a lot of the loose skin. If I only have to lose 20 lbs or so during my prep that will help me tremendously as well.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  23. No pressure bro..post 'em when you feel the time is right!
    I'm just excited for your progress..

  24. You can send that 20 my way! I just can't break this plateau I'm at. I am actually going to log my first hormonal soon(sponsored) of 1-AndroRX by IronMag Labs. I am nervously excited to say the least. I just want to get into the 225-230 range!!
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  25. Quote Originally Posted by snagency View Post
    No pressure bro..post 'em when you feel the time is right!
    I'm just excited for your progress..
    Yah and I appreciate all you help and encouragement!! I just like to be ready when pic time comes. I will come. I think eventually when all is said and done I will look better than I ever have due to the amount of mass I have been able to gain and maintain. I'm excited too!!
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug
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