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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    DW, you run Form year round then? Do you pulse it on weight lifting dats only? I too am 50 and was wondering if I could use an AI year round.
    That's right I use 100mg on workout days. I believe you can run it year round for the most part but you may want to take some breaks. You should run a reasonably low dose and only 3 times a week. This idea came about when Dsade was looking into an oral formestane product, that would be used similarly.
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    Thanks DW. I really like the effect AIs have with us old guys and have been trying to run one for longer periods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Thanks DW. I really like the effect AIs have with us old guys and have been trying to run one for longer periods.
    Pulsing E-form has been very effective for me, I have been able to maintain the libido enhancement over months of use. I do believe it plays a role in my ability to make gains like a younger person.
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    Well back at the gym last night after a scheduled week off. I have to say it went pretty well. It's much to early to be feeling any Prime effects, I of course got my usual energy boost from Jacked and Supersap and I do believe Phyto-test does have some influence in this department as well.

    25 degree Incline bb press 4 X 195 X 12 reps
    Decline db flies 4 X 65 X 12 reps

    Extended pulldowns ss 4 X 90 X 12
    wide lat pulldowns 4 X 180 X 12
    Rev grip Bent over rows 4 X 155 X 12

    Not bad for a first day back, the shoulder continues to be an issue. I don't know when I can lift heavy again. I am doing all I can to rehab it but it seems to have ceased getting better.
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    What sort of rehab are you doing?
    Also, if you have to lighten the load, just focus more on the eccentric portion in a slower manner to get the muscle confused. Type II Muscle-Fiber Activation from this will induce great gains; I've used when my shoulder(s) act up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    What sort of rehab are you doing?
    Also, if you have to lighten the load, just focus more on the eccentric portion in a slower manner to get the muscle confused. Type II Muscle-Fiber Activation from this will induce great gains; I've used when my shoulder(s) act up.
    That's what I have been doing.. then when I try to go up in weight, it just doesn't seem to have improved much. It probably is slowly and I'm being careful. Doin all the exercises my chiro recommended. I think the problem is, is that it has been injured for a while then the big injury happened and now I am rehabbing years worth of abuse...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    That's what I have been doing.. then when I try to go up in weight, it just doesn't seem to have improved much. It probably is slowly and I'm being careful. Doin all the exercises my chiro recommended. I think the problem is, is that it has been injured for a while then the big injury happened and now I am rehabbing years worth of abuse...
    Hmm, well just stick with it.
    I would suggest to go see a Sports Rehabilitation Specialist instead of a Chiropractor; you will benefit more, IMO.

    This has helped me out greatly... http://www.connecticutcenterforhealt...lotherapy.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    Hmm, well just stick with it.
    I would suggest to go see a Sports Rehabilitation Specialist instead of a Chiropractor; you will benefit more, IMO.

    This has helped me out greatly... http://www.connecticutcenterforhealt...lotherapy.html
    Yah we have had some bad luck with sports rehab people, I strongly suspect they played a hand in ending my son's Football career. Left us sort of leary of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yah we have had some bad luck with sports rehab people, I strongly suspect they played a hand in ending my son's Football career. Left us sort of leary of them.
    Don't let one sour grape ruin the whole... you know what I'm saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Well back at the gym last night after a scheduled week off. I have to say it went pretty well. It's much to early to be feeling any Prime effects, I of course got my usual energy boost from Jacked and Supersap and I do believe Phyto-test does have some influence in this department as well.

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    Extended pulldowns ss 4 X 90 X 12
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    Rev grip Bent over rows 4 X 155 X 12

    Not bad for a first day back, the shoulder continues to be an issue. I don't know when I can lift heavy again. I am doing all I can to rehab it but it seems to have ceased getting better.
    ive got problems in my left shoulder. ive only recently added shoulder presses again, and im only about a month back to benching from almost a year off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    Don't let one sour grape ruin the whole... you know what I'm saying.
    Yah I know... I was very interested in the prolotherapy... problem is it's hard to find someone local who practices it. Canada is so behind on this kind of thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolandajoint View Post
    ive got problems in my left shoulder. ive only recently added shoulder presses again, and im only about a month back to benching from almost a year off.
    I guess yours was more severe, I have been able to work it but not go heavy. It's been around 9 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolandajoint View Post
    ive got problems in my left shoulder. ive only recently added shoulder presses again, and im only about a month back to benching from almost a year off.
    I'm in the same boat, it'll either be a full year until I can dead lift anything, or dead lifts just may not be an option at all, forever, or bent over rows, but I've found some happiness in the incline bench BB rows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    I'm in the same boat, it'll either be a full year until I can dead lift anything, or dead lifts just may not be an option at all, forever, or bent over rows, but I've found some happiness in the incline bench BB rows.

    Your Avi of Dwight freaks me out each time.
    Maybe I should just stop whining...

    It's Shoulders and Arms tonight looking forward to it ... high reps though
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    Nice workout !! I was chewing up iron and spitting out nails. I had to increase weight on every exercise. I can't believe it but it seems that these supps have kicked in very early. Must be some wild synergy goin on here. Oh and libido... wow!!

    Lets run it down ... it was like any other day at the gym. I started with military press and I am going high reps and have been nursing an injury so I did 135 only (wanted to start out conservitive) 15 reps later I was thinking that's way to light so I go 155 which is fairly reasonable weight considering my situation. 14 reps still a bit too easy I am really aiming for 12, I went up to 165 and finished two sets of 12. My shoulder got tired near the end or who knows how much I could have done. This is pretty respectable and got me by surprise.

    Rear delt pec dec was strong, nothing really amazing.

    Rope press down was intense I wasn't doing amazing weight gains here but the contraction I was getting was epic. I punished the tri's. The big surprise came with close grip bench. My tris were already feeling pretty cooked but I had all this fire and energy, I started out with 185 and crushed 14 reps. Wow then I put it up to 205 and did 12 good reps.

    Last but not least straight bar preachers high reps with a drop. I started with 90 with a drop to 75. Too fuggin light I did 15 and 11. 100 and 85's just right 12 and 7. Here is where it gets a bit freaky, the next set was 13 and 7 yah I was gaining strength. I could not bend my arms hardly at all but you know I wasn't going to let that stop me by this time I'm in a frenzy the fire in my eyes. I finished with a grueling 12 and 7. I walked out of the gym a very pleased man.
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    Killer day DW! Way to knock it out. I love them days where strength just keeps rising!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagency View Post
    Killer day DW! Way to knock it out. I love them days where strength just keeps rising!
    Yah that's one of the things that I get out of Prime the 3rd set is usually the best. I have only been on it for 5 days though, so I have to assume some synergy with Phyto and Supersap has kicked it in early... this is exciting
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    There is nothing like the feeling of being dialed in. You attack each set, you aren't just getting thru the w/o. You finish feeling more energized than when you went in. Nice job DW!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    There is nothing like the feeling of being dialed in. You attack each set, you aren't just getting thru the w/o. You finish feeling more energized than when you went in. Nice job DW!!
    That's it in a nutshell.. gonna be good run!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    That's it in a nutshell.. gonna be good run!!
    Keep killing it DW

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
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    DW, wanted to ask you about the pure sap. What exactly are it's benefits?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    DW, wanted to ask you about the pure sap. What exactly are it's benefits?
    You mean SuperSap... libido is through the roof, it raises test. There is definitely some energy of some kind, it seems to give my jacked more kick. Did I tell you about the libido... lol yah just what I need.
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    I'm going to get in on this. I just put in an order for 1x SuperSap in the comment box on my NP order today. Hopefully they will accommodate it. Supposedly the shipment is very small, and I wanted to pre-order it if possible. There was a sale on ATW Isolate, plus free shipping, so I wanted to jump on that.

    I'm interested in SS' effects on energy and endurance. I've always loved PowerFull, but buying 1-C and SS in bulk is so much more up my alley.
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    Thanks DW!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    I'm going to get in on this. I just put in an order for 1x SuperSap in the comment box on my NP order today. Hopefully they will accommodate it. Supposedly the shipment is very small, and I wanted to pre-order it if possible. There was a sale on ATW Isolate, plus free shipping, so I wanted to jump on that.

    I'm interested in SS' effects on energy and endurance. I've always loved PowerFull, but buying 1-C and SS in bulk is so much more up my alley.
    I don't think you'll be disappointed, run it preworkout with some kind of energy booster like Jacked and your set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Thanks DW!!
    NP...

    Leg day was a success, I had to go up on front squats started at 205 for 12 too light moved up to 225 seemed just right. I am getting better at this movement so I will be moving up 10 -20 lbs a week. I can't see myself going to 300 on this though.

    Stiff legged deads same story started at 185 for 12 and added 20 cuz it was too fuggin light.

    Standing calf raises were uneventfull I did plenty of weight 245 but didn't go up.

    Then did core work starting with wheel of death, which I seem to be improving upon. I did 8 6 and 5 but better forn this time. My friend is coming up and marketing a new ab rollling apparatus he calls the turtle. Martial arts people are raving about it. I haven't seen it yet but he'll be coming down to Montreal to market it. I guess the thing is speically shaped and can move any whiich way, like in circles. I can't wait to get my hands on it. This guy knows his shyte, he's the guy on my amspace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I don't think you'll be disappointed, run it preworkout with some kind of energy booster like Jacked and your set.
    So do you still think I should dose it 2x/day, or just pre-wo?
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    All this talk of Jacked gets me close to buying it, and then I recall it contains Beta Kryptonite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    So do you still think I should dose it 2x/day, or just pre-wo?
    I do twice a day, I think there is benefits for test increase as well as enhanced workouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    All this talk of Jacked gets me close to buying it, and then I recall it contains Beta Kryptonite.

    Yah you have a sensitivity to it I guess... and the new version is going to have more.
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    Nice looking stack, DW! I'll be following.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaddow View Post
    Nice looking stack, DW! I'll be following.
    Welcome aboard and good to see you back...
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    Definitely awesome to see Shaddow around the boards again!

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    Damn fine iron slingin session!! What can I say this is kickin in early, full credit to the Phyto and Supersap. Something synergistic with the Prime I figure. The workouts I am having now late in the first week and early in the second are remenisant of week 3 of my first Prime run. I keep pushing up the weight and it's hard to find the ceiling on some exercises. This is shocking at times. I walked away from decline flies without finding my ceiling, I did more reps with more weight, than I could conceive.

    I really pay for it the next day but these workouts are damn fine.

    The libido is still very high, I am in a state of constant readiness, well it's not that crazy but it's very intense.

    Oh I seem to put on some size as well, I was looking bigger ... wider.
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    Sounds great DW!
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    Damn fine iron slingin session!! What can I say this is kickin in early, full credit to the Phyto and Supersap. Something synergistic with the Prime I figure. The workouts I am having now late in the first week and early in the second are remenisant of week 3 of my first Prime run. I keep pushing up the weight and it's hard to find the ceiling on some exercises. This is shocking at times. I walked away from decline flies without finding my ceiling, I did more reps with more weight, than I could conceive.

    I really pay for it the next day but these workouts are damn fine.

    The libido is still very high, I am in a state of constant readiness, well it's not that crazy but it's very intense.

    Oh I seem to put on some size as well, I was looking bigger ... wider.
    Sounds good! I can't wait to try some TD Form in a few weeks once it comes in. I think I'll start my SuperSap with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Sounds good! I can't wait to try some TD Form in a few weeks once it comes in. I think I'll start my SuperSap with it.
    Form is one of the best products I've ever encountered. It keeps me young...
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    Couldn't pass up that Prime 2 for... so here's the new plan, I will keep running 6 a day for the first 5 weeks then when things get heavy from weeks 6 through 9 I will add 3 pre-workout... gonna get all kinds of crazy un in here lol

    I also decided to later do a 8 week more intense recomp come spring.. I got some Anabolic pump and Meltdown (recreate has an adverse effect on my equilibrium). I also got some bulk Pslin and more Napalm so I can run 2 weeks Napalm 2 weeks Lipoderm Ultra. This will likely be with a Prime/ Powerfull stack.
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    ooooooh, ****e's getting ready to hit the fan..
    Sounds like someone's trying to get back up on that stage..
  

  
 

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