vikinginc's Xtremely[!] Stoked[!] about his Epi[] Journey from ~T7 to D4~

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  1. LMAO what a side track that was, lol.

    Damn fine numbers on the last couple wo btw Viking, your a monster!


  2. Works for me dude..

    I see you've whittled off some weight rather quickly since getting up to that 240 mark, nice. Musta been holding a bit of water? Sure didn't see it.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by snagency View Post
    Works for me dude..

    I see you've whittled off some weight rather quickly since getting up to that 240 mark, nice. Musta been holding a bit of water? Sure didn't see it.
    For sure, man ! I had gained some bloat in my midsection .. It got a little out of whack the last two weeks prior to starting this ! I was 'snackin' too much; buy Kashi GoLean cereal, finishing a box in a day .. oh, and as previously mentioned, I had not done cardio from mid August until this past Sunday .. So I was loading myself FULL of carbs prior to and following my workouts, but that was the ONE time I was active during the day; remainder spent on a desk in a classroom or at a desk at work.

    Anyway, it's become a habit - KNOCK ON WOOD - for me to go running as soon as i'm done with my final class or work for the day, and it feels great. I was craving to shed those pounds, man ! Like I said, confidence boost !
    VikingInc's Journey towards NSL Physique 2016 competition on March 12, 2016, in Houston, Texas.

  4. Pslin .. Hmm .. SO tempting .. Pslin @ 7AM, breakfast 20 minutes later with a load of oats, train at 9am, another carb meal and shake following, and then my first dosage of stim around noon. HMM . . HMM . . something to ponder on, Snag ?!
    VikingInc's Journey towards NSL Physique 2016 competition on March 12, 2016, in Houston, Texas.

  5. Thrown in your current stack, or following? I mean, both sound awesome!

    I think if you want to accentuate the fat-loss, I would utilize caloric shifts thruout, throw in some lower carb days with only 1 dose of Pslin. To get to that 5% mark (for me anyway), you're gonna have to have some lean carb days. What works well for me is kinda an inverse keto strategy - have your lower carb days 2x weekly, moderate carbs (like your current intake) 3-4x weekly and higher carb days 1-2x weekly for the balance. There may come a time where you'll have to drop carbs down to 150g/day neighborhood if fat-loss starts stalling - but really, with the stack you're on and your good metabolism, you may not have to resort to this. You know how you respond much better than anyone else, and you've done it before, I think you'll figure it out.

    Doesn't hurt you got Mullet working his magic with AP protocol as well!
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by snagency View Post
    Thrown in your current stack, or following? I mean, both sound awesome!

    I think if you want to accentuate the fat-loss, I would utilize caloric shifts thruout, throw in some lower carb days with only 1 dose of Pslin. To get to that 5% mark (for me anyway), you're gonna have to have some lean carb days. What works well for me is kinda an inverse keto strategy - have your lower carb days 2x weekly, moderate carbs (like your current intake) 3-4x weekly and higher carb days 1-2x weekly for the balance. There may come a time where you'll have to drop carbs down to 150g/day neighborhood if fat-loss starts stalling - but really, with the stack you're on and your good metabolism, you may not have to resort to this. You know how you respond much better than anyone else, and you've done it before, I think you'll figure it out.

    Doesn't hurt you got Mullet working his magic with AP protocol as well!
    Man, looks like I'll be picking your brain a bit these next several weeks !

    So ..

    Low Days (2-3 days) - 60-100 grams carbs/day
    Medium Days (3 days) - ~200 grams carbs/day
    High Days (1-2 days) - 400-500 grams carbs/day

    something like that ? So you'd 'rotate' ? Low days first 2-3 days, followed by Medium, then High, right ? Sufficient aforementioned quantities of carbs ?

    Yeah, I'm very much looking forward to what Mullet has in store ! I told him that I'd follow each and every direction in terms of the AP dosing and the carb-intake with it.. (as well as any further diet advice he'll give to optimize AP results)

    Anyway, I'm on my way to 5%, and I've got one helluva crew behind me ! Thanks for the support everyone !
    VikingInc's Journey towards NSL Physique 2016 competition on March 12, 2016, in Houston, Texas.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by vikinginc View Post
    Man, looks like I'll be picking your brain a bit these next several weeks !

    So ..

    Low Days (2-3 days) - 60-100 grams carbs/day
    Medium Days (3 days) - ~200 grams carbs/day
    High Days (1-2 days) - 400-500 grams carbs/day

    something like that ? So you'd 'rotate' ? Low days first 2-3 days, followed by Medium, then High, right ? Sufficient aforementioned quantities of carbs ?
    Love to help a brother in arms out!

    Yep, good layout. You may not have to go so low on your low days, but that's exactly how I would structure my own diet in such event. You've got a few extra things going for you that I don't (Epi, more cardio sessions than I do, youth - haha!), so I don't know that you'd have to be as low as I would. But again, you know your body best. Let's see how that plays out; if the weight continues to fall quickly, we'll want to put a stop to such speed. I'd hate to see you lose muscle mass.. like to see you maximize this beastly stack!

  8. Hey Vik,

    My fiance accidentally disposed of your package (not its contents, but the literal package), so I will need your address! I will send it out Saturday once I have the vitals from you.

    I am unsure whether or not we should attempt during cycle, P.C.T., or afterward as there are justifications for avoiding it at each term. During cycle, one necessarily cannot deny the possible tissue-recomposing effect an Epithio poses, and therefore positive results may be unfairly ascribed to it; in respects to P.C.T., ER-a (alpha Estrogen receptors) stimulates Insulin-mediated glucose uptake via increasing IR (Insulin Receptor) proteins - therefore, an increase in Estrogen may increase positive results (via aromatization) whereas a decrease due to AI usage may attenuate possible results; most likely, Post-P.C.T., is the most objective scenario!

    While I feel P.C.T., may be the most beneficial, we are after the most objective results; unfairly positive is still bias!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    During cycle, one necessarily cannot deny the possible tissue-recomposing effect an Epithio poses, and therefore positive results may be unfairly ascribed to it;

    in respects to P.C.T., ER-a (alpha Estrogen receptors) stimulates Insulin-mediated glucose uptake via increasing IR (Insulin Receptor) proteins - therefore, an increase in Estrogen may increase positive results (via aromatization) whereas a decrease due to AI usage may attenuate possible results;

    most likely, Post-P.C.T., is the most objective scenario!

    While I feel P.C.T., may be the most beneficial, we are after the most objective results; unfairly positive is still bias!
    Agreed on the timeframe of PCT being the most beneficial; that was my first thought on usage myself.

    Why the worry for bias - Vik gonna be a test case is he?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Hey Vik,

    My fiance accidentally disposed of your package (not its contents, but the literal package), so I will need your address! I will send it out Saturday once I have the vitals from you.

    I am unsure whether or not we should attempt during cycle, P.C.T., or afterward as there are justifications for avoiding it at each term. During cycle, one necessarily cannot deny the possible tissue-recomposing effect an Epithio poses, and therefore positive results may be unfairly ascribed to it; in respects to P.C.T., ER-a (alpha Estrogen receptors) stimulates Insulin-mediated glucose uptake via increasing IR (Insulin Receptor) proteins - therefore, an increase in Estrogen may increase positive results (via aromatization) whereas a decrease due to AI usage may attenuate possible results; most likely, Post-P.C.T., is the most objective scenario!

    While I feel P.C.T., may be the most beneficial, we are after the most objective results; unfairly positive is still bias!
    Mullet,

    Address has been sent!

    Like I mentioned, I will do it according to your demand - for the lack of a better word. PCT or post-PCT .. ?

    I am truthfully considering the PSlin [now then, as the AP won't be intra-cycle], so do you possess the knowledge of 'how to run it' as Snagency does ? .. If you took a peak at my diet, would you see it as beneficial in any manner to do it pre-breakfast in the morning, 2 hours pre-workout? .. I'd appreciate any comment on that.
    VikingInc's Journey towards NSL Physique 2016 competition on March 12, 2016, in Houston, Texas.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Hey Vik,

    My fiance accidentally disposed of your package (not its contents, but the literal package), so I will need your address! I will send it out Saturday once I have the vitals from you.

    I am unsure whether or not we should attempt during cycle, P.C.T., or afterward as there are justifications for avoiding it at each term. During cycle, one necessarily cannot deny the possible tissue-recomposing effect an Epithio poses, and therefore positive results may be unfairly ascribed to it; in respects to P.C.T., ER-a (alpha Estrogen receptors) stimulates Insulin-mediated glucose uptake via increasing IR (Insulin Receptor) proteins - therefore, an increase in Estrogen may increase positive results (via aromatization) whereas a decrease due to AI usage may attenuate possible results; most likely, Post-P.C.T., is the most objective scenario!

    While I feel P.C.T., may be the most beneficial, we are after the most objective results; unfairly positive is still bias!
    Either I got 2 IQ points smarter from reading that, or I feel 10 IQ points dumber for not fully grasping that paragraph.

    yeah Viking, what Mullet said, that's exactly what I was thinking, but he beat me to the post. I hate it when that happens.
    NSCA - CSCS

  12. This log has become a phucken seminar. I better get some form of certification by the end of this.
    NSCA - CSCS

  13. Quote Originally Posted by snagency View Post
    Agreed on the timeframe of PCT being the most beneficial; that was my first thought on usage myself.

    Why the worry for bias - Vik gonna be a test case is he?
    Mostly to give viking the fullest, most honest experience of Anabolic Pump! As the bottle is coming from me, I would rather impart him an honest experience, rather than a falsely beneficial one!

    That being said, P.C.T., is the most beneficial choice due to ER-alpha mediated IRS increases, leading to glucose uptake; as well as the mitigation of cholesterol and triglycerides, having a dual benefit in both overall health and aesthetics - that is, lowering total cholesterol and TGs (triglycerides) which will obviously mitigate 'poor' cholesterol, as well as lower blood pressure, as well as increasing the possibility for nutrient increase!

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Mostly to give viking the fullest, most honest experience of Anabolic Pump! As the bottle is coming from me, I would rather impart him an honest experience, rather than a falsely beneficial one!

    That being said, P.C.T., is the most beneficial choice due to ER-alpha mediated IRS increases, leading to glucose uptake; as well as the mitigation of cholesterol and triglycerides, having a dual benefit in both overall health and aesthetics - that is, lowering total cholesterol and TGs (triglycerides) which will obviously mitigate 'poor' cholesterol, as well as lower blood pressure, as well as increasing the possibility for nutrient increase!
    Not a problem !

    As mentioned, PCT consists of Stoked! and Activate Xtreme. Epi's always been good to me (knock on wood) so I'm not counting on adding anything else there. ALSO .. at the moment, i've mentioned a Stim in the PCT for further bodyfat loss. However, if you feel that could be detrimental, I will not include.

    I've got ways to go in the run - the cycle - and I'm hoping to shed as much bodyfat as possible by the time I hit PCT.
    VikingInc's Journey towards NSL Physique 2016 competition on March 12, 2016, in Houston, Texas.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Either I got 2 IQ points smarter from reading that, or I feel 10 IQ points dumber for not fully grasping that paragraph.

    yeah Viking, what Mullet said, that's exactly what I was thinking, but he beat me to the post. I hate it when that happens.
    Hahaha, exactly, man ! Mullet and your comments always make me put on my focus-cap, and thoroughly read, and nore merely skim.. LOL
    VikingInc's Journey towards NSL Physique 2016 competition on March 12, 2016, in Houston, Texas.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by vikinginc View Post
    Not a problem !

    As mentioned, PCT consists of Stoked! and Activate Xtreme. Epi's always been good to me (knock on wood) so I'm not counting on adding anything else there. ALSO .. at the moment, i've mentioned a Stim in the PCT for further bodyfat loss. However, if you feel that could be detrimental, I will not include.

    I've got ways to go in the run - the cycle - and I'm hoping to shed as much bodyfat as possible by the time I hit PCT.
    In terms of adipose shedding, I have some interesting and successful protocols utilizing fasted resistance training and Anabolic Pump. Interested?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    In terms of adipose shedding, I have some interesting and successful protocols utilizing fasted resistance training and Anabolic Pump. Interested?
    Absolutely ! It'd work out great for me, being I workout in the early AM (9AM), and wake up at 7AM.

    I'm up for a read about that anytime !
    VikingInc's Journey towards NSL Physique 2016 competition on March 12, 2016, in Houston, Texas.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by vikinginc View Post
    Absolutely ! It'd work out great for me, being I workout in the early AM (9AM), and wake up at 7AM.

    I'm up for a read about that anytime !
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/worko...-agedness.html

    Here is a quick summation, though I would read the log for two primary reasons:

    a) To view the very cumulative increases in strength, and capacity for volume brought about by modulating lipid metabolism and expenditure

    b) To view the explanations in their native capacity.

    I put together Brian's whole stack there, and I think you will find it incredibly interesting!

    Anabolic Pump is often conceptualized as merely a supplement of glucose homeostasis. While that's true in part, its true identity is one of energy metabolism as a whole; specifically, mitigating energy expenditure and transfer in both fat and muscle cells, via the modulation of energy storage and production mechanisms.

    During a long bout of exercise (i.e., an hour long resistance training session) your body's energy homeostasis mechanisms need to take on a more oxidative (the B-oxidation of fatty acids) as opposed to glycolytic (GLUT4 translocation and glucose storage) role. This is due in part to the inability of the body to produce the fuel (glucose) for anabolic processes at the rates needed for anaerobic exercise. In response, your body has in place several mechanisms which prevent the accumulation and synthesis of triglycerides and lipids, and release them into the bloodstream to be oxidized.

    These lipolytic processes actually contribute to the majority of energy transaction in a bout of anaerobic exercise - the oxidation of fatty acids and plasma triglycerides, primarily, provide the energy for resistance training.

    The reason I mention all this is Anabolic Pump's fascinating ability to regulate one of the vanguards of oxidative and glycolytic energy consumption - AMPk. AMPk works as an essential gate-keeper of energy production, reacting to extracellular fluctuations of various downstream energy messengers (AMP:ATP ratio included). Its activation is responsible for various roles, including all of the above mentioned.

    Using such a product in conjunction with fasted cardio simply utilizes energy which would have been stored anyway. The mere presence of AMPk ensures that the liberated fatty acids and triglycerides will be oxidized as it plays a primary role in not only lipolysis, but the inhibition of lipid, triglyceride, and cholesterol synthesis.

    In terms of blood glucose, you should have circulating plasma levels which are enough to stave off hypoglycaemia, even with the use of Anabolic Pump. As carbohydrates have not been ingested, the presence of Insulin (the main inducer of hypoglycemia) is not necessarily present. Anabolic Pump works through Insulin-reactive, though not dependent, pathways of energy metabolism. The lipolytic role is also enough to provide ample energy.

    Hope that helps!

  19. Thanks a lot, I'm already browsing.

    So being that I wake up @ 7AM, and work out @ 9-9.30AM, should I still go fasted ? [and include a pre-workout drink or something for energy?]
    VikingInc's Journey towards NSL Physique 2016 competition on March 12, 2016, in Houston, Texas.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by vikinginc View Post
    Thanks a lot, I'm already browsing.

    So being that I wake up @ 7AM, and work out @ 9-9.30AM, should I still go fasted ? [and include a pre-workout drink or something for energy?]
    I would change your workout to 7:20 AM, and utilize a pre-workout mixture containing a stimulant, as well as BCAAs, to mediate any protein turnover ratios which can be brought about by Berberine-mediated mTOR alterations.

    So:

    7:00 Wake Up
    1 AP
    stimulant of choice (what are you using now?)
    5g BCAA, w/ extra Leucine
    Epistane dosage.

    7:20 Lift

    On last set of resistance training:
    1 AP

    Post-WO Meal
    60-70g complex carbohydrates
    20g simple carbohydrates.

    What is your current supplement list, exactly?

  21. So being that I wake up @ 7AM, and work out @ 9-9.30AM, should I still go fasted ? [and include a pre-workout drink or something]
    I would not utilize in this fashion personally.

    Fasted training within 45 minutes of waking worked wonders for me this summer, but I'd advise against a protocol such as you just mentioned.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    I would change your workout to 7:20 AM, and utilize a pre-workout mixture containing a stimulant, as well as BCAAs, to mediate any protein turnover ratios which can be brought about by Berberine-mediated mTOR alterations.

    So:

    7:00 Wake Up
    1 AP
    stimulant of choice (what are you using now?)
    5g BCAA, w/ extra Leucine
    Epistane dosage.

    7:20 Lift

    On last set of resistance training:
    1 AP

    Post-WO Meal
    60-70g complex carbohydrates
    20g simple carbohydrates.

    What is your current supplement list, exactly?
    Ahh, Mullet beat me to the punch!

    I feel so slow on my laptop..

  23. Unfortunately I'm interrupted by an 8AM class every morning, five days per week. Waking up at 7 is hard as it is, and getting my stims in to wake up is 'essential' atm .. That is why I've been doing 9am workouts - I'll be donetraining by 10-10.30am, and got class again @ 11-12pm, and then work from 1-5PM. So 9AM is kind of the earliest I can get there .. I could potentially go 75 minutes from consumption of AP until my workout. Wake @ 7.40. Pop AP @ 7.45-8AM. Train @ 9-9.10AM.

    ?
    VikingInc's Journey towards NSL Physique 2016 competition on March 12, 2016, in Houston, Texas.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Hey Vik,

    My fiance accidentally disposed of your package (not its contents, but the literal package), so I will need your address! I will send it out Saturday once I have the vitals from you.

    I am unsure whether or not we should attempt during cycle, P.C.T., or afterward as there are justifications for avoiding it at each term. During cycle, one necessarily cannot deny the possible tissue-recomposing effect an Epithio poses, and therefore positive results may be unfairly ascribed to it; in respects to P.C.T., ER-a (alpha Estrogen receptors) stimulates Insulin-mediated glucose uptake via increasing IR (Insulin Receptor) proteins - therefore, an increase in Estrogen may increase positive results (via aromatization) whereas a decrease due to AI usage may attenuate possible results; most likely, Post-P.C.T., is the most objective scenario!

    While I feel P.C.T., may be the most beneficial, we are after the most objective results; unfairly positive is still bias!
    Mullet's fiance disposed of Vikings package...

    Damn, I wish I wasn't so immature.

  25. My Current Supplement List:
    - Epistane
    - D4/T7 (occasional mix & match with Leviathan Reloaded/D4)
    - CEE (3 grams post-workout AM, 3 grams in PM)
    - Xtend (Starting Saturday)

    - Sesamin Oil
    - Multivitamin
    - Hawthorne Berry / Cayenne
    - Milk Thistle
    VikingInc's Journey towards NSL Physique 2016 competition on March 12, 2016, in Houston, Texas.
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