2 DAYS ON RECREATE/PWFULL/AP-feeling like an alpha FE-MALE !!!
- 09-13-2008, 06:25 PM
- 09-13-2008, 06:36 PM
09-13-2008, 10:07 PM
It also depends on the individual, though. Nettle root (the active ingredient in Activate Extreme and Divanex) can interfere with the menstrual cycle and decrease the effectiveness of BC, which is why they recommend it for males only. But there is no reason why females cannot use these products.
Well, they say that "you learn something new every day".
09-14-2008, 12:44 AM
09-14-2008, 06:59 AM
Since I’ve already decided to do a proper log, I should introduce myself and my goals properly as well, for those of you who don’t know me all that well
I’m a biochem nerd, gym junkie and amateur mountainbike racer. I have been training with weights for about a year and a half and made some reasonable gains. I took on weight training mainly as a stress relief strategy and never thought that it would soon become a major focus in my life. I would REEEALYYYY like to compete one day but at the moment I just don’t have enough muscle to show off.
At the moment, I am ~120lb and 13-15% BF. Being a female I find it hard to put on muscle (that is relatively speaking, I’m certainly not an ectomorph woman). Most of my workouts involve compound movements, deads, squats, chins, powercleans, etc (max dead 165lb, 6reps). I see guys in the gym all the time, lifting less then I do in terms of their bodyweight and yet they grow like weeds even with bad form!
I seem to be a Carb II Reactive individual (damn it!!!), I do gain some minute amount of muscle when I increase carbs but 99% excess of this goes straight into my butt (haha! I feel like the whole 13-15% of my fat is there
….which brings me to my mission “impossible” : lean bulk .... I bet nobody guessed that one!
My choice of weapons are PowerFULL, AP & Recreate
Other than that, my current list of supps is the following :
* BCAA, glutamine, b-alanine, arginine ethyl ester, colostrum
* ALCAR, Q10, fish oil
* MRM Driven (workout formula: Na, K, Ca, P, Cl, vit B complex, vit C, Citrulline
Malate, Dimethylglycine&Endosine, ALCAR,L-Tyrosine, Alpha—glycerol phosphatidyl choline, L-glutamine, L-asparagine, L-Potassium Aspartate)
* Nutralife Oxyguard (gingko, bilberry, milk thistle, grapeseed, green tea, turmeric, korean&siberian ginseng, citrus bioflavonoids, betacarotene)
* Nutralife horse chestnut complex (horse ch, ginkgo, bilberry, butchers broom, gotu kola, hesperidin, vit C),
* liver support formula, bromelain
Holy smoke, I only just realized how much $hit I’m taking !
*Protein (kangaroo, fish, organic chicken, WHOLE eggs),
*Fats (flaxseed, fish oil, nuts, coconut),
Veggies (ALL OF THEM !!!)
Complex carbs (oats, brown rice, wholemeal and rye bread)
Fruit (grapefruit, apples and berries).
Now don’t ask me about macros because I’m not a true calorie counter, instead I like to “listen to my body” and generally have quite a good idea when I under- or over-do it, especially the later Since my main current goal is muscle building rather than cutting that should work to my advantage, haha !!!. I’m hoping that AP and PwFULL will help in the muscle-building department and the “synergy” of AP& Recreate should keep fat storage under restraint !
4 x week: weights
HIIT Morning cardio 3 x week
*Cardio on off days
*I know that looks like a lot of cardio but I don’t have a car so I ride my bike everywhere, + my body is used to that
1. 30min b4 morning cardio: 1PowerFULL + Recreate (1 or 2, still experimenting)
2. Immediately b4 cardio: 1AP (cardio 20-30min, HIT)
3. Breakfast: includes complex carbs
4. 20-30min b4 third meal/pre-training meal: 1AP
Meal includes complex carbs
5. 10min b4 workout (approx 1hr after third meal):
Recreate+PowerFULL (depending on what I dose in the morning, do not want to go over 3 Recreate/day, same with PowerFULL)
6. Workout drink:
10g BCAA+5g glutamine+ALCAR+, b-alanine, arginine, ethyl ester)
7. Immediately PWO & 30min b4 PWO meal: 1AP
PWO meal: includes complex & simple carbs
PowerFULL and Recreate are separated at least an hour from meals. With AP I am planning to start off with 30-40g of carbs per meal and ramp it up according to response. On NON-WEIGHT training days PowerFULL would be omitted, but I would still take Recreate and AP.
09-14-2008, 11:34 AM
09-14-2008, 09:16 PM
09-14-2008, 09:38 PM
09-14-2008, 11:17 PM
Thanks FELLOW MALES, borobulker and JKP, words of approval are always welcome, and constructive criticism even more so
09-14-2008, 11:28 PM
However, you need to ensure your body can handle at least 45 minutes (in my opinion - you may wish to check with one of the reps) between dosage and carb consumption without going hypo.
09-14-2008, 11:31 PM
a bit late with the updates...
9AM (yeah, ok, shush everyone, I know I was a lazy a$$ to get out of bed but it was the weekend so give me a break )
Started off with 2Recreate and without PwFULL, had a FIRM intention to do a VERY SHORT HIIT session, but boy I was WRONG …within 10min of dosing I was switched on HIT instead: High Intensity, Intervals. Sprinted for 25 min, felt like I could have gone for longer but wanted to spare my knees ‘cause they are not used to 3 HIIT running sessions/week (and this was the third one).
Afternoon was supposed to be used for rest but I promised to teach a friend how to do deadlifts .
Hit the gym at 3pm but my friend wasn’t there so I though, I should play with weights a bit just for fun (nothing to hard, this is MEANT TO BE A REST DAY, DAMN IT!!!). WRONG AGAIN !
I was still running HIGH from the morning dose and so before I knew it I was doing a gruelling superset : pyramid cable bicep curl + pyramid cable tricep pulldown (didn’t go for deads ‘cause I’ve already done them this week, see day 2). What makes this gruelling is the PYRAMID system, anyone who has tried it before knows what I’m talking about .
Usually I do only one superset on these and then take 5 min to recover before I’m able to hold a pen and take notes, haha !! Well, after doing the first pyramid superset I thought: one is like none, so I went on and did another! I even bumped the weights up cause I felt my arms could take some further damage .
There was still no sign of my friend and at this point I thought: hope he doesn’t come at all cause I want to keep going
My wish was granted, total time in the gym 1hr. I popped 1Recreate/1PwFULL in the middle of the workout and when it was over, I still had some steam left in me so I went for a 20min spin on my bike. Felt great, pumped and NOT EXHAUSTED AT ALL!
09-14-2008, 11:36 PM
Rest day .
Slept only 5hrs after a night out (no drinking, alcohol and me agree NOT), woke up mildly cranky, took 1 Recreate ONLY and went for a 20min ride to “organize my thoughts for the day”.
I was pleasantly surprised from a single dose of Recreate, it kicked in just right (I didn’t feel like I was running on illegal substances ), I didn’t have the urge to do ANY form of HIT, but I didn’t have the urge to call it quits and crawl back into bed either. Took 1 more Recreate in the afternoon. Mood improved, I was VERY HAPPY and RELAXED….prior this stack, me + 5 hrs of sleep =
09-14-2008, 11:37 PM
Log continues to look good. Very thorough.
09-14-2008, 11:42 PM
09-15-2008, 12:52 AM
"Root (verb and noun) : synonym for f*ck in nearly all its senses: "I feel rooted"; "this washing machine is rooted"; "(s)he's a good root". A very useful word in fairly polite company. "
09-15-2008, 01:21 AM
Agree, protein is important however, thus far I've been following a keto-like diet with very little carbs. My protein intake was (and still is) around 2g per pound of muscle if not more (more=overkill). I also tended to go "stupid" on fats. While this type of dieting wasn't bad for my body type, I found myself stuck in a rut. Workout intensity went down and increasing carbs seemed to help in that respect...not without the price of accumulating too much "dirt" though.
I started a carb-feeding cycle about a month ago and persisted despite getting frustrated over the acquired soft-look. For the last week, due to the addition of AP, I increased carbs even more. Workouts have been great so far and the soft-look is not getting any worse If anything, it is improving, I can actually notice some definition in my upper thighs for a change
Also, there are no bloating or sleepiness-issues following a carb meal. This was not a case before a stack. Give me some porridge in the morning and an hour later I'm ready to join the "dead"
09-15-2008, 01:26 AM
this is textbook results of Anabolic Pump - it will only improveI started a carb-feeding cycle about a month ago and persisted despite getting frustrated over the acquired soft-look. For the last week, due to the addition of AP, I increased carbs even more. Workouts have been great so far and the soft-look is not getting any worse If anything, it is improving, I can actually notice some definition in my upper thighs for a change
lol - was NEARLY going to make a smartarse comment..."Root (verb and noun) : synonym for f*ck in nearly all its senses: "I feel rooted"; "this washing machine is rooted"; "(s)he's a good root". A very useful word in fairly polite company. "
09-15-2008, 01:30 AM
09-15-2008, 01:45 AM
FYI - perhaps you should become a Gold Member?
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09-15-2008, 09:35 AM
So far, on weight training days (afternoon workouts) I’ve experimented with:
1Recreate /2PwFULL afternoon (prior workout)
And the winner is ….
RECREATE LITERALLY RECREATES YOU. I’m not an “early morning” person and I’ll find any possible excuse to avoid a scheduled morning HIIT cardio (the weather is too hot, the weather is too cold, back is stiff …bull$hit-it is stiff every morning, ...I’m not an early morning person ).
With Recreate, I crave HIIT as badly as ketogenics crave their weekend carb-refeeds izza::donut::burg:
* Morning doses (~8:30AM)-always kick in faster, within 10min (increased -alertness, sweating, positive aggression, focus, an overwhelming rush of energy and happiness).Importantly, when dosing Recreate in 2/1 (morning/afternoon) scheme, appetite suppression is significant throughout the day as opposed to 1/2 (morning/afternoon) – not much at all
The effects are VERY INTENSE AND LONG LASTING (especially with a double dose of Recreate, come 2PM and the heat is still on!)
* Afternoon doses (~5PM)-EVEN WITH 2 Recreate the effect is not as intense as when the same dose is taken in the morning, also, takes ~20min to kick in
CONCLUSION: RECREATE SEEMS TO WORK BEST ON EMPTY STOMACH
To elaborate this further: afternoon dose is taken 3hrs after lunch and 1hr after a small protein shake (gastric emptying not 100% completed); morning dose is taken after >8hr overnight fast
09-15-2008, 10:25 AM
Glad to see you've got the dosing down!
I also take in more protein than the norm: >500g/day on workout days! (Roughly 3x my bw!)
And I have to know... What does kangaroo taste like? (Please don't say chicken! LOL!)
09-15-2008, 04:03 PM
And carbs don't make you look soft. Yes, for every gram of carbs you store 3g of water (intracellular, though), but it would make you appear HARDER, if anything.
Anyways, I won't argue this point. Everyone's body works differently in some respects, and if you feel that this is your best way, then by all means, do it.
Seems you need to decide whether you want to be a MTBer or a figure competitor, since the training required for each is at OPPOSITE ends of the extreme.
09-15-2008, 11:04 PM
HAHA, awesome, that makes me feel less ; besides, judging from your avatar, it seems to be working QUITE wellI also take in more protein than the norm: >500g/day on workout days! (Roughly 3x my bw!)
HELL NO, the taste is rather unique and from speaking with other people, it is either a hit or a miss, you'll either love it or you'll hate it. It has a very intense smell that some people dislike. I love it though (the taste, smell doesn't bother me much and once the meat is cooked, it is not noticeable), I have never gone back to beef since I've started eating 'roo.And I have to know... What does kangaroo taste like? (Please don't say chicken! LOL!)
Jakellpet's log has some tips on how to cook it.
09-15-2008, 11:11 PM
However, since I started weight training, I cut down on mountainbiking, because building muscle is hard enough as it is. Now-days, I barely do 1 ride every 1-2 weeks and it is never over 2hrs. I do a couple of endurance events per year (this year I did two 8hr races and a 60km race), but I do no specific training for them (other than a MASSIVE carb refead )
Interestingly, even without cycling-specific training, this year had been the best in terms of racing placements (think it is because weight-training unleashed toughness that I never thought I had in me, I see mountainbiking as a painless fun now, as opposed to weight training-painful fun ). I came 1st and 2nd in the 8hr events and 2nd in the 60km race. During my last 8hr event I scoffed down 30 dried bananas…and it was a winner
Right again, I've been racing for 5 years, time to try something different, if anything I may use an 8hr event as a pre-contest cut, haha !Seems you need to decide whether you want to be a MTBer or a figure competitor, since the training required for each is at OPPOSITE ends of the extreme.
09-16-2008, 03:32 PM
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