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    Thumbs down IBE is in TROUBLE!!!!!!!


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    Here is a copy of what these idiots sent around. The subject line of the email said: Important Information Regarding RPN Havoc and Future of Epistane

    Then the body of it:

    To whom it may concern,
    >
    > I am writing this e-mail in regards to information that we recently
    received about one of our competitor's new product Havoc. We requested
    that Havoc be tested by an independent, 3rd party laboratory that is not
    affiliated with any supplement companies or affiliated with IBE or RPN in
    any way. We received the results today and they are truly shocking. The
    sample was extracted and gas chromatography and mass spectroscopy was
    conducted and revealed that Havoc actually contains two (not one as the
    bottle suggests) compounds. The chromatogram showed that the two
    substances are in 60/40 proportions to each other. The laboratory has not
    yet disclosed what the two ingredients actually are, but due to their
    molecular weights they seem to be steroidal in nature. The only conclusion
    drawn by this is that the MAXIMUM purity of the active ingredient in Havoc
    (17aa-Epitiostanol) is 60% IF it contains any of the active at all.
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    > In response to this alarming data IBE is working to increase quality
    control of all of our substances moving into the country. In the past we
    have always tested our product in-house to assure quality controls on every
    batch we put into production. We now feel it necessary to not only test
    in-house, but to also use the more extensive mechanisms to test every batch
    with this larger 3rd party lab. Again we really want to change this
    industry and push for higher QC standards to prevent occurrences, such as
    the one that has recently come to our attention.
    >
    > We will have results from our newest batch by the end of the week and
    will have the product capsuled and shipped to all distributors as soon as
    we can assure purity. We recommend the industry stop selling Havoc to
    increase the safety of consumers and to prevent possible future lawsuits.
    If you have any questions please contact me.
    >
    > Dustin
    > IBE

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    feel free to rep me for this NEWs flash!!
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    Thats pretty bad all around.
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    No need to double post though.
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    This crap is stupid... I had great results with epi and have heard good results with havoc too... STOP ARGUING
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    I'm confused... Why is IBE in trouble? Havoc is an RPN product.
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    Wow, this is gonna get heated quick...if it wasn't already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    Wow, this is gonna get heated quick...if it wasn't already.
    read through the whole thread on bb.com its pretty heated already....
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    im confused....i thought IBE sold epistane and had nothing to do with Havoc....i know they are supposed to be the same compound, but this article sounds like IBE is in trouble because HAVOC is not what it claims.....can someone help me out here? Is epistane still fine to use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fibercarbon View Post
    read through the whole thread on bb.com its pretty heated already....
    Fiber,

    Stop trying to be an a$$hole.
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    getjacked...IBE would be in trouble, if this is true, for slandering RPN
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    Epistane Is Fine To Use!!!!!!!!!
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    Wouldn't it only be slander if this wasn't true?
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    here we go again
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwolfWV View Post
    Wouldn't it only be slander if this wasn't true?
    LakemountD admitted that ibe sent out the email if you read more into the thread... im speechless about this.. its not my battle to be involved in im just delivering the news !! enjoy kids
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    Quote Originally Posted by fibercarbon View Post
    LakemountD admitted that ibe sent out the email if you read more into the thread... im speechless about this.. its not my battle to be involved in im just delivering the news !! enjoy kids
    Look at your age, then how you act. The "kid" description fits you more than anyone here.
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    Yea, I think he simply likes to stir the ****. I'm outta this thread.
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    This is just going to be horrible for the supplement industry as a whole...whenever lawyers and courts get involved good things do not happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    This is just going to be horrible for the supplement industry as a whole...whenever lawyers and courts get involved good things do not happen.
    true that, i hope this doesnt end up with the gov't cracking down even harder on ph's and the supplement industry....looks like a definite possibility at this point though.
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    Fiber,
    Keep the 3rd grade retarded sh*t on BB.com - where it belongs.

    Don't start threads like this.

    God.
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    Providing information/news for the sake of informing the public is a deed to be lauded. To pass information for the sake of watching chaos erupt is just pointless and childish.
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    It was bound to show up. In any case, its bad all around. I don't agree with any of it at all.
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    Lets move this to the former...
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    I wonder what RPN has to say about this
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    I have the hottest azz in this thread.
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    True and I can only imagine that nothing good would come of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fibercarbon View Post
    feel free to rep me for this NEWs flash!!
    rep this lil *****
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80 View Post
    Fiber,
    Keep the 3rd grade retarded sh*t on BB.com - where it belongs.

    Don't start threads like this.

    God.
    nice, now heres someone that deserves rep points...
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    thiss little punk has been starting all kinds of trash talk w/ibe and trying to stir up conflicts at bb.com. stop being a little ahole
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    Quote Originally Posted by leetuser View Post
    I wonder what RPN has to say about this
    I believe dsdade's exact words were .

    "My attorney will be responding for RPN...period."
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    This is most unfortunate.
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    What really bothers me, other than the obvious situation, is what this might lead to, lawyers get involved,this goes to a courtroom,words like prohormone, steroids,mislabled supplements, start getting thrown around, the fda gets wind of this..............

    I think you get the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadBlocK View Post
    What really bothers me, other than the obvious situation, is what this might lead to, lawyers get involved,this goes to a courtroom,words like prohormone, steroids,mislabled supplements, start getting thrown around, the fda gets wind of this..............

    I think you get the idea.
    That is my concern as well, the last thing we want to do is draw unwanted attention to this...
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    LOL just lol.....and now back to bb.com
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    I failed to see the point of this thread. I guess my brain is'nt functional or something?

    On a side note this sucks.

    If it is the case that what is in the pills is what the test shows then its not slander. Say a company markets a car and says it has a V6. You buy the car the manual that comes with it says the same thing. You look under the hood and you have a 4banger under there. Its not illegal to inform people that the car being sold as a supposed six cylender actually is a 4 cylender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fibercarbon View Post
    feel free to rep me for this NEWs flash!!
    feel free to rape your who??? ...lil skirt.....will do...Don't mess with our family here cubscout..
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    Ok, so you posted this so you would get raped? I bet your mom wishes she made it to the clinic before it closed now. Dont worry though, with your IQ it wont be long before you blow dry your hair in the shower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bkprice View Post
    Ok, so you posted this so you would get raped? I bet your mom wishes she made it to the clinic before it closed now. Dont worry though, with your IQ it wont be long before you blow dry your hair in the shower.
    classic just classic lmao. fiber, fiber ,fiber, what are we going to do with you?
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