16 week PH cycle
- 10-29-2013, 10:40 PM
16 week PH cycle
I've been reading up on long PH cycles and was wondering what you guys think.
Week 1-4 methylated PH
Week 4-8 non methylated PH
Week 8-16 methylated PH
Would be taking aromasin 12.5 Ed
Liver shield throughout
PCT would be clomid and nolva. And some DAA
What do you think?
Btw I have 5 cycles under my belt.
I'm 25 6 feet 190
- 10-29-2013, 11:40 PM
- 10-29-2013, 11:50 PM
Can't say I've ever seen anyone do it for that long. Not sure if onion is joking around or not but I wouldn't dare to do that if you're knowingly gyno prone. Keep a bottle of Letro nearby at all times lol
10-30-2013, 12:02 AM
Olympus labs super pct, don't cycle without it. It's the best IMO. Get some an you'll be glad you did Olympus labs rep
10-30-2013, 12:03 AM
I have letro and caber on hand. With aromasin at 12.5 Ed wouldn't that take care of any estro problems?
Any other input? Kinda wish I could just shoot test but I'm afraid of the injection part and I don't have a legit source.
10-30-2013, 12:05 AM
5 cycles and you weigh 190? Previous cycles or diet man. You're going wrong with one of the two... most likely diet. No point in going past 8 weeks. 6 weeks is the sweet spot for most!
10-30-2013, 12:07 AM
10-30-2013, 12:14 AM
10-30-2013, 12:16 AM
10-30-2013, 12:18 AM
10-30-2013, 12:25 AM
I'd rather get over the fear of needles rather than risk having to get surgery again lol. Plus the results are better, cheaper, and way less sides.
10-30-2013, 12:28 AM
10-30-2013, 12:31 AM
10-30-2013, 12:32 AM
10-30-2013, 08:24 AM
10-30-2013, 10:05 AM
Cant decide if that's going to hurt your wallet or liver more...
Just run test at that point, man.
Running PH for that long is like TV on honeymoon.... vewwwy unnecessawy
10-30-2013, 03:52 PM
How is buying injectable test cheaper than buying a prohormone that costs 30$ for a month worth? All the test I see cost way more and you have to buy alot of it because you run test for 10-12 weeks. Am I just looking in the wrong places?
10-30-2013, 03:58 PM
10-30-2013, 06:41 PM
16 wks is too long bro. your gonna pickle your insides. but also, most of the gains are gonna come between wk 2-4 or up to wk 5 if you run that long. not that there wont be gains after that, they just wont be a substantial and likely to keep. and if gyno prone, look into something more like Methylstenbolone as it doesn't convert to estrogen. im prone and had zero issues gaining 10lbs and keeping almost all of it. you could make some serious gains running 16wks but remember you only got one body and one set of gonads. don't be too hard on them all at once. you could have a lot of difficulty getting them going again leaving you with an inability to make any gains off cycle at all or even losing everything you worked for. if your in it for the long haul just play it safe with 4wkrs and you now the risk is much lower and you know between cycles you wont be stagnant in your gains. best of luck. swol.
p.s. its also kinda overkill doubling SERMs. im a firm believer in sticking to the basics so stick with, in my opinion, the clomid. and do NOT run 100mg like some people say because again, total overkill. 50mg max. you can only stimulate your LH and FSH levels so much and any more could bring about unwanted sides that make you crybaby lol. and can even be detrimental to gains coming off it. coming from a near shutdown to overproductions leaves your "boys" in a state of disarray and they wont know what to do. 50, 35, 35, 17.5ml if using peptide or 50, 50, 25, 25pills. be safe and keep your coin purse full and happy =]
10-30-2013, 06:57 PM
10-30-2013, 07:11 PM
yeah I bet lol. the thing about SERMS, alothough clomid and nolva work differently in the way they go about it, is that the desired effect is the same in that LH and FSH are stimulated and estrogen receptors are blocked. what people don't know is the effect it has on the gonads themselves (hypogonadism is to blame 99% of LOW T patients). similar to anti depressants and sleeping pills. we know they do something but so one can be 100% sure. so if you know there is good stimulation at 50mg dosages and sides are minimal, why risk doubling it. more isn't always better. I say this because im lucky my **** works seeing as how I came into the anabolic world learning the hard way putting gains first, health second and I've paid the price. my junk still works, thank God, but the sleepless nights and constant stress between doctor appointments worrying about what I did to my body is more than convincing to play it safe. I don't want anyone to go through that sh1t like I did. stick to the basics and have regular check ups and stick with it. the endless pursuit of body perfection is a journey that can consume your life making you take uneccisary risks. you only got one body after all, take care of it, and itll take care of you. best of luck bud
10-30-2013, 07:24 PM
10-30-2013, 07:33 PM
provion (50mg QD) and test (500mg/ week) for 12-16 weeks. bam. semi-exotic and it should keep your nips happy.
i would never pay more than $60 for a vial of test, and it would need to be some smooth high grade stuff to warrant that price. $30-40 seems to be about average. 500mg per week breaks down to what? $7-8 a week? how much do you spend on protein?
AM sucks ass. find me on ASF or IMF.
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