Gyno

[Gw44]

So, idk if this is gyno or not but one of my nipples is very puffy looking. And it is like it has more fat than the other. At the end of an msten cycle as we speak. Don't know what to do about it. Will it go away in pct? Running nolva at 40-40-20-20. With daa and nolvadren xt

 

[RoccoV]

I would run nolva , with diaspartic acid the powder form, "absorbs faster" twice a day and it will be gone in 30 days

 

[FL3X MAGNUM]

If it doesn't hurt then it's probably not gyno tissue.
The nolvadren will take care of the estradiol though.

 

[Gw44]

Thank god, I'm holding water as well too.

 

[tinytony]

Thank god, I'm holding water as well too.

Holding water on Msten?? Wow. I did Msten Rx and I felt like a coffee filter. Water dropped thru and my skin was thin and absolutely zero bloat.

 

[Gw44]

I'm bloated as hell man. Did you take an ai? I think that's where I ****ed up

 

[tinytony]

I'm bloated as hell man. Did you take an ai? I think that's where I ****ed up

Nope. Msten IS an AI.. what else are you taking? Msten was dryer for me than Superdrol

 

[Gw44]

DHEA

 

[tinytony]

DHEA

Well if its the dhea that is converting to estrogen then you have some strong stuff man. If u want all risk of gyno and bloat to go away I'd drop the dhea for now. Iv 1 dhea and 4 dhea by AMS and no such effects but if it hits you that way, definitely drop the DHEA and see what happens

 

[Gw44]

Well I got two days left, I'm done with it. How was your diet when on msten? Mine is 300 protein, 450 carbs, and 80-120 fat

 

[tinytony]

Well I got two days left, I'm done with it. How was your diet when on msten? Mine is 300 protein, 450 carbs, and 80-120 fat

Mind was like 180-220 protein and all the carbs n fats I could choke down. I was working a job that burned lots of calories and I have a scary metabolism so I had to and I still shredded.. an estimation of carbs would be like 600 give or take

 

[Gw44]

Well ****. It must be the damn dhea then. It's cyclo bolan xt.

 

[tinytony]

Well ****. It must be the damn dhea then. It's cyclo bolan xt.

Well I'm not one to say that everyone is the same. Neither have I ever had dhea convert to that extent. I stacked the 4 ad and 1 ad with no AI. N I just felt energetic. But dhea is the only hole I see here. Unless the carbs are actually bloating you. You cud cut it back to 200-300 per day and see what happens.

 

[Gw44]

I could buy I feel as if I'd lose strength

 

[tinytony]

I could buy I feel as if I'd lose strength

True.. if the bloat is carbs that's no big deal. It'll go away. But if its estrogen, do whatever it takes..

 

[Gw44]

I think it's estrogen cause I feel it in one nipple and not the other. I'm thinking about making my last day tomorrow and starting pct Monday.

 

[RoccoV]

My opinion is to take Epistane, 10 to 15 mgs a day with your PCT. it will help recovery and harden/tighten up while restoring T levels

 

[Gw44]

But that's a prohormone that's not naturally ocuring in the body?

 

[RoccoV]

But that's a prohormone that's not naturally ocuring in the body?

Correct , proper PH usage should be a "bridge" technique. You build your body up to the heavy PH then build it down by using a low Milligram amounts of phs for 30 days a Epi or a halo while continuing your PCT , in 60 days you will keep all gains and restore your levels. Worked for me and many others who have tried it.

 

[Gw44]

Well ****. I might do that, should I still eat the same on this?

 

[RoccoV]

Also depends on the PH your taking but even with 54 mgs if epi, I will cycle my body off it with T booster and a 7 milligram amount of epi

 

[Gw44]

I took 40-40-40-40 of msten. How should I do this, I have nolva, nolvadren xt and daa.

 

[RoccoV]

Eat the same , epi on the other hand really sparks the urge for carbs , stay away from doing that

 

[Gw44]

Well right now I eat 450 carbs a day

 

[RoccoV]

I would start a 10 mg a day Epi cycle with your pct for 30 days the keep up the DAA and another test booster for another 30 days after the epi.

 

[RoccoV]

450 is fine , as long as they are clean carbs, I eat like 700 right now, ton of good fats as well.

 

[Gw44]

Will do, will I notice anymore muscle gains after this epi? And I do run it with nolva correct?

 

[RoccoV]

Correct, take with the nolva, gains possibly. It slowly will recover your levels with out letting your estrogen spike up , main cause of Gyno. PCTs are great but they are only effective when gradually done. Thus keeping your body anabolic for a longer extended period of time letting it slowly recover. If anyone tells you 30 days to recover on PCT they are probably wanting you to experience their Gyno problems.

 

[Gw44]

Well how should I dose it? And what kind is best? Also will it get rid of water weight? Please say yes. I'm tired of carrying it around.

 

[RoccoV]

Dose the epi , 10 mgs epi every morning within a hour of waking up for 30 days, on top of proper nolva and DAA. Then after 30 days , continue DAA with a Test booster "clomitest" which has clomidrol and DAA in it for another 30 days , eat regular and drink tons of water

 

[Gw44]

This just sounds much more efficient, what about my nolvadren xt I have?

 

[RoccoV]

Nolvatren is a great test booster , i would take it for the last 30 days as your t booster with the DAA

 

[Gw44]

Sounds good, also, what brand would you choose?

 

[RoccoV]

Ug Parma - E shred

 

[Gw44]

I'll go get it now, cheapest place to buy? Imma cheap mother****er. Haha.

 

[RoccoV]

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[Gw44]

Ordered it. Hopefully it will kill my bloat and help me look cut up a bit.

 

[Gw44]

Thank you very much man. I appreciate it! Is nolva ran at 40-40-20-20 good?

 

[RoccoV]

No problem , I like the split

 

[OnionKnight]

you just bought a $60 bottle of epistane that you coulda got for $25 anywhere else.

and you are on crack if you believe what this guy is telling you on bridging a steroid during pct. if you wanna stay anabolic during pct, bridge a sarm. it still activates the AR without any test supression as long as it is dosed low. throwing epistane in a pct is like trying to gas a car with the breaks locked.

the part where he just sold you a $60 bottle of epistane and called it cheap means you just got scammed

 

[RoccoV]

By all means bridge a serm, i dont care, low amounts of epi work like a anti estrogen agent , stacking them during pct ensures that your levels stay at a medium anabolic state, while progressively bringing your t levels back to normal. By all means save yourself a couple of bucks this isn't a charity blog. You don't have
To listen to me, it's worked for me twice , liver enzymes tested both times with again no gyno.

 

[OnionKnight]

By all means bridge a serm, i dont care, low amounts of epi work like a anti estrogen agent , stacking them during pct ensures that your levels stay at a medium anabolic state, while progressively bringing your t levels back to normal. By all means save yourself a couple of bucks this isn't a charity blog. You don't have
To listen to me, it's worked for me twice , liver enzymes tested both times with again no gyno.

oh my gawd you are something else. ai's are pretty good anti estrogen agents too if you didnt now. and estrogen isnt anabolic, so im not sure what you mean by "ensures that your levels stay at an anabolic state." and liver enzymes have nothing to do with gyno

 

[tinytony]

By all means bridge a serm, i dont care, low amounts of epi work like a anti estrogen agent , stacking them during pct ensures that your levels stay at a medium anabolic state, while progressively bringing your t levels back to normal. By all means save yourself a couple of bucks this isn't a charity blog. You don't have
To listen to me, it's worked for me twice , liver enzymes tested both times with again no gyno.

Seems just a bit far out to say to use Epi for PCT. You natty test wont bounce back

 

[tinytony]

Epi at 10 mg per day wont give you much help or Anabolic effect neither will it let natty teat come back fully because you ha e artificial crap in your body.

 

[Gw44]

I bought epi2a3a. I was gonna use it my next cycle anyways. But now I'm ****ing confused.

 

[tinytony]

Can't believe what I'm reading on this thread Onion!

 

[tinytony]

I bought epi2a3a. I was gonna use it my next cycle anyways. But now I'm ****ing confused.

A good AI will do all you need plus let hormones balance out. That is a fact. Never use a steroid to help kickstart teat

 

[tinytony]

I bought epi2a3a. I was gonna use it my next cycle anyways. But now I'm ****ing confused.

A good AI will do all you need plus let hormones balance out. That is a fact. Never use a steroid to help kickstart test

 

[RoccoV]

You guys not seeing the small amount of epi he's
Going to use, It's not 3 ,10 mg pills, it's one 10 Milligram pill a day to keep his body anabolic. Your body almost treats it like a fat burner, bottom line is this .... I've seen many non experienced PH users , loose their balls and grow tits, I've always used bridge techniques with pro hormones during pct. it's not maybe your Tipical 30 day pct treatment , but it actually takes 60 days and in my opinion more effective then others. Have your opinions i don't care.

 

[tinytony]

You guys not seeing the small amount of epi he's
Going to use, It's not 3 ,10 mg pills, it's one 10 Milligram pill a day to keep his body anabolic. Your body almost treats it like a fat burner, bottom line is this .... I've seen many non experienced PH users , loose their balls and grow tits, I've always used bridge techniques with pro hormones during pct. it's not maybe your Tipical 30 day pct treatment , but it actually takes 60 days and in my opinion more effective then others. Have your opinions i don't care.

On a good dose of Aromasin and Nolva he will be anabolic already. It is a lot opinion but Epi at 10 wont let your calls recover. And that is not opinion