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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post

    Curious about conversion rates and optimal dosages...also price will be steep from them...as they now will have the PH to the favorite bulker.
    If its the one I saw its 19 a bottle. But me and my bud were speculating double dose might be needed for equivalent effects

    Edit- we were just bs-ing at the gym, no real thought went into it. Waiting for logs


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    Hell, even if its moderately dosed Halo then 19 bucks a bottle is still quite cheap. If its as potent as hoped then its a damn steal. Snagged three. Can't to get a cycle going. Praying to the muscle gods its genuinely in the SD ballpark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stupes View Post
    The vast majority of people felt great on Phera back in the day - as others have eluded to.

    I feel fine on SD and M1T - maybe get slight back pumps on SD around day 8 or 9 but thats it besides HDL going in the trash. But Phera made me feel like a f'ing king - my libido was out of control - size and strength gain very similar to SD and M1T. Favorite oral ever bar none.

    Phera is indeed good. I still have some of that laying around..

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    So witch one of the Celtic Labs is the phera? Or is it still in the making?

    Never did SD, how many guys get bad libido on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehogsters View Post
    So witch one of the Celtic Labs is the phera? Or is it still in the making?

    Never did SD, how many guys get bad libido on it?
    not released yet. and dead dick is pretty common on sd. but this isnt sd, its a ph to sd

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    So what would be the best option for not getting dead d**k? I tried a tren blend about 4 years ago and my junk was dead for weeks, not even viagra would work. My fiance almost left me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnionKnight View Post
    not released yet. and dead dick is pretty common on sd. but this isnt sd, its a ph to sd
    ^Correct on both points

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehogsters View Post
    So what would be the best option for not getting dead d**k? I tried a tren blend about 4 years ago and my junk was dead for weeks, not even viagra would work. My fiance almost left me.
    If you're trying not to use anything illegal sometimes DHEA or an Epiandrosterone product like 5-Alpha Test by Forruner can be helpful if run along side a less libido friendly compound.
    I was actually one of the beta testers for the Product I mentioned above. The beta version worked well and they have upgraded it for the retail version. I'm thinking of grabbing some soon myself!

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    If u run test along with sd, ur junk should work fine. The only time I've had problems with that was when I wasn't running test
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    Well sure running test would work, but I have not had a way to get it for the past 15 years. What about epi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehogsters View Post
    So what would be the best option for not getting dead d**k? I tried a tren blend about 4 years ago and my junk was dead for weeks, not even viagra would work. My fiance almost left me.
    Sounds like a good woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehogsters View Post
    Well sure running test would work, but I have not had a way to get it for the past 15 years. What about epi?
    Negative on the Epi. That's a really bad idea. The favored sidekick to SD seems to be DHT, and that means something like 5-Alpha Test or one of the Stano products. A 4-DHEA (Alpha Bulk, Bulk Up, 4ad) is also suitable, but people really seem to prefer DHT compounds with SD.

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    Did not mean run them together. Just wonder how epi is alone. Any of you know what PH is the least likely to kill my junk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehogsters View Post
    So what would be the best option for not getting dead d**k? I tried a tren blend about 4 years ago and my junk was dead for weeks, not even viagra would work. My fiance almost left me.
    Of the ones we have been talking about -- Phera

    If you run Test w/ SD, the libido issues are minimal. The reason is due to androgenic activity, among other things. There is nothing better than good ole natural test production for libido. But a close second is running a few hundred milligrams of testosterone in lieu of the other compounds. Phera + Test would be the best combo for libido and sense of well being. SD + Test for max size and strength.

    The old Bold 200 did something fierce to my libido as did the actual Boldenone/EQ. I wish Masteron was able to be delivered orally without methylation (which is essentially what SD is). Masteron is the type that, if legalized, could be something you could run at a low dose year round with no side effects but an elevated libido, hardness & strength.

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    50mg H-Drol or 30mg Epi should be fine on the libido. Especially the H-Drol. Some might get too low in estro while on Epi to have a strong libido.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fueledpassion View Post
    50mg H-Drol or 30mg Epi should be fine on the libido. Especially the H-Drol. Some might get too low in estro while on Epi to have a strong libido.
    But I will also say that if you run:

    1) IPT -141 E3D
    2) Cialis @ 10mg E3D

    Those two in combination it really doesn't matter what you are taking - you'll be ok.

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    Does anyone know the release date of Celtic Mass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpotmeyungLad View Post
    Does anyone know the release date of Celtic Mass?
    It's available for preorder now

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris223 View Post
    Wow. Still hard to believe a retailer would do that so casually; then again, most of these guys probably don't even know what it is they're selling.
    ya i was sold SD from a supplement store a few years ago. never had heard of it but it sounded amazing haha so i took it.. i started at 30mgs, 2 weeks in bench had gone up 40lbs and 10lbs bodyweight. wasnt able to finish cuz i got in a car wreck(maybe for the best in the long run since i had no idea what i was ingesting).

    but ya i saw that celtic stuff and all those supps... alot of compounds

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomGreen View Post
    ya i was sold SD from a supplement store a few years ago. never had heard of it but it sounded amazing haha so i took it.. i started at 30mgs, 2 weeks in bench had gone up 40lbs and 10lbs bodyweight. wasnt able to finish cuz i got in a car wreck(maybe for the best in the long run since i had no idea what i was ingesting).

    but ya i saw that celtic stuff and all those supps... alot of compounds
    Let me know if you have any questions or need clarification

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    Quote Originally Posted by nostrum420 View Post
    It's available for preorder now
    My question is when does it officially come out. My bad for the bad wording

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpotmeyungLad View Post

    My question is when does it officially come out. My bad for the bad wording
    When you pre order it.. It said shipped by April 1st.. Just ordered mine Celticmass and celtictren is what I'm gonna take

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    I wonder if dosing would be the same as superdrol

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpotmeyungLad View Post
    I wonder if dosing would be the same as superdrol
    highly doubt it since there's a conversion involved now. unless it happens to be active on its own

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    Hey if anyone is looking for a good tren ph look at celtictren. I wouldn't say it's the most potent stuff but it's effective very effective

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    You run it already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilko View Post
    You run it already?
    I don't see how he can, it's not out yet

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    Which is why I was curious how he could testify as to the potency of the Celtic Labs tren. Didn't know if perhaps he had a line on information that hadn't yet been widely disseminated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilko View Post
    Which is why I was curious how he could testify as to the potency of the Celtic Labs tren. Didn't know if perhaps he had a line on information that hadn't yet been widely disseminated.
    perhaps he's used IBE Trenevar, however Celti-Tren is dosed much higher per cap

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpotmeyungLad View Post
    I wonder if dosing would be the same as superdrol
    i would guess conversion would be around 10-20%. its like the dosing for alpha1 and M1t. people run alpha1 at 60mg i want to meet the guy who runs M1t at 60.

    the more i dig into this ph sd i feel like it will be less of a bulker and more of a recomp/cut. depending on the toxicity and the conversion rate that is. i dont see it converting at a super high rate so unless its extremely active on its own. i dont think it will get you what you get from SD.

    alpha1 however is active and converts to M1t at around 10-20%. thats why its such a good bulker.

    none the less i think this is going to be an awesome product. ive run sd up to 50mg before and ive run M1t up to 30mg. so i think ill be able to give it a solid rating once i get my hands on some. im really excited about there other products, im guessing its a mentabolen compound, it looked like youve labeled it as MENT but i might be reading wrong. it should be awesome and your getting way more per bottle than anyone else.

    whats the word on the 2 cyano phera?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpotmeyungLad View Post

    I don't see how he can, it's not out yet
    I ran trenavar which Is the same ingredient but celtictren has a higher dosage. I got solid gains from trenavar at the minimum dosage and I staked with methyl1-d good stack kinda pricey though

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    Quote Originally Posted by musclefool View Post

    I ran trenavar which Is the same ingredient but celtictren has a higher dosage. I got solid gains from trenavar at the minimum dosage and I staked with methyl1-d good stack kinda pricey though
    then how could you recommend it and call it effective if you havnt used it? might as well of said "hey, if you want a good tren product, try any tvar clone."

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnionKnight View Post

    then how could you recommend it and call it effective if you havnt used it? might as well of said "hey, if you want a good tren product, try any tvar clone."
    Well I'm sorry sir... My statement wasn't well acknowledged at the time

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    It has higher dosage than trenavar and same ingredient so I figured......

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpotmeyungLad View Post
    I wonder if dosing would be the same as superdrol
    Like the others have said, it's going to take a higher dosage to get similar results because of the conversion rate. However, it may prove to be a powerful PH in it's one right.

    Quote Originally Posted by musclefool View Post
    It has higher dosage than trenavar and same ingredient so I figured......
    I would say that this is a safe assumption. Same active hormone at a higher dosage per pill. I think it's safe to say that it will be a great product. I'm thinking that a Trestobol/Celtitren stack will be a potent combination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermanjow View Post

    Like the others have said, it's going to take a higher dosage to get similar results because of the conversion rate. However, it may prove to be a powerful PH in it's one right.

    I would say that this is a safe assumption. Same active hormone at a higher dosage per pill. I think it's safe to say that it will be a great product. I'm thinking that a Trestobol/Celtitren stack will be a potent combination.
    I was gonna run Celticmass and Celtictren. If it was anything like trenavar than I'm excited

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    Quote Originally Posted by musclefool View Post
    I was gonna run Celticmass and Celtictren. If it was anything like trenavar than I'm excited
    Another really good stack!
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    I'm actually considering an Ostobol/Trestobol Stack. Since Osta has a long half life and the Trest a shorter one, I'd take Osta in the morning and Trest PWO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermanjow View Post
    I'm actually considering an Ostobol/Trestobol Stack. Since Osta has a long half life and the Trest a shorter one, I'd take Osta in the morning and Trest PWO.
    Nice bro good luck!
    I've ran ph before and usually the dosing 2-3 a day when's the best time to take it? With trenavar I took it one hour before my work out and one in the morning and one in the afternoon. Is that a correct way of doing it??

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    That is a good way of doing it since they have shorter half lives. Most are somewhere between 4-8 hours. Trest is really short, but VERY potent. It's half-life is only around an hour, but it stays in your system for longer. Osta though has a half-life of 36 hrs. So, it would be a great companion to a compound like Trest. At least, that's what seems logical to me at the moment. We'll have to wait and see once I get a chance to run them together.
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