M1A vs SD

[LiveToLift]

Interesting product. I'll be following. I've heard nothing on it prior so I'm intrigued. Good reads in here as well. Subbed! :-D

[Evan666]

What you don't realize is some of these guys started off at 5'10-6'2 130-150lb ectos(myself included) and getting up to 185-200 natty is already pushing their genetic potential through the roof and no matter how much they eat train or sleep they can't gain...

This is when it is necessary for THEM to cycle to move on.

Not everyone can hit over 250lbs and deadlift 2x bw natty... in fact very few can. You can't force everyone into your very rigid mold before approving their allowance to cycle.

Certain things should be a given... knowledge and ability to apply is about it. Current stature means very little.

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I do not agree with you, but that's fine we can agree to disagree. You seem to present yourself a bit more maturely about the subject then husker. If you read my posts, I had a problem with him as he came off as an idiot pushing injecting on Donny. He seems like the all too familiar guy at the gym trying to talk you in to using while half assing his workouts. If you are putting in the work I see no issue pinning, as I said previously. What is so rigid of that "mold"? I am sure most feel the same...?

[klint]

Its like a soap on t.v lol. but i am here for donny. the rest is just stuff. and yes hes doing SL alpha one

[Sourdough]

I do not agree with you, but that's fine we can agree to disagree. You seem to present yourself a bit more maturely about the subject then husker. If you read my posts, I had a problem with him as he came off as an idiot pushing injecting on Donny. He seems like the all too familiar guy at the gym trying to talk you in to using while half assing his workouts. If you are putting in the work I see no issue pinning, as I said previously. What is so rigid of that "mold"? I am sure most feel the same...?

most of my comment as directed at the indication of his weight being the dictating factor as to wether out not he was able to cycle and/or not at his genetic potential... really that's a lot of guys genetic potential with sub 12% bf.

I acknowledge you did give the top of the hat to having ducks in a row means have a go.... but wanted to clear up the other aspect that i really don't agree with.

N while I'm taking a similar stance as husker...No, i don't agree with his constant pressing to pin and his rage fit pound the keyboard response after unanswered response technique at discussing things.... so def don't think in taking his side but rather expressing my own opinions(which if you search my posts you'll see the same point made in like 3 other threads this last month).

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[Sourdough]

Its like a soap on t.v lol. but i am here for donny. the rest is just stuff. and yes hes doing SL alpha one

Thanks klint...

Was going to pick some up...but i guess it went oos on the last 2sites that had it over night...

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[klint]

We have it still here at £28.00 per bottle

[Husker89]

your lifts are very impressive man i just dont liek you assumingi have half ass workouts, I GAINED 60LBS NATTY IWTH 1% MAYBE 2% TOPS IN BF, OVER 5 YEARS BEFORE I TOOK STEROIDS ON ACCIDENT, i EAT PERFECTLY AND iLL POST A PIC AND YOU CAN SEE, but u want to be huge, i dont, so im bad becasue i have to be 270 before i use gear?

Husker are you serious man? Donny is doing fine.. why are you being such a damn douchebag? Get the **** out of this thread. You are so eager to get into a pissing contest.. so eager to prove your self. You must be insecure? Vain? It is extremely apparent. If we peons are so stupid, go forth upon the throngs of other threads of willing ears waiting to be blessed with your boundless knowledge.

Its sad that you lift to prove yourself to everyone. You should lift to prove you to you. That's what matters in the long run. The battle with you and the weight. It builds character, and I would go out on a limb and say you require a bit more.

...and about my bodyfat percentage. You know nothing of my life, or my physical accomplishments. Last time I had my percentage checked, it was 18% (down from 50%). Guess what? It doesn't bother me. If I wanted to get lean I would. I want to be strong. I wanted to be a fu/king weight throwing gorilla. I don't care about being pretty. If you do, great. That's you.

And if you lived in southern California, I'd invite you to come lift with me. This fat dumb dude might surprise you.

[Husker89]

IM not pushing **** im saying THIS IS WHAT I WOULD DO AND WONDERING WHY HE DOESNT DO IT? ORAL STEROIDS ARE INJECTABLE STEROIDS, IVE GOTTEN BETTER GAINS OFF OF ORALS THEN PINNING, JUST TRYING TO HELP.

I do not agree with you, but that's fine we can agree to disagree. You seem to present yourself a bit more maturely about the subject then husker. If you read my posts, I had a problem with him as he came off as an idiot pushing injecting on Donny. He seems like the all too familiar guy at the gym trying to talk you in to using while half assing his workouts. If you are putting in the work I see no issue pinning, as I said previously. What is so rigid of that "mold"? I am sure most feel the same...?

[jbryand101b]

Don't get me started.. No one but genetic freaks are allowed to cycle bro, haven't you heard?

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Oh, I thought it was rich genetic freaks only, my bad

[bmftisftw]

How do you take steroids on accident? You don't research before putting stuff in your body?

[jbryand101b]

How do you take steroids on accident? You don't research before putting stuff in your body?

I accidentally took steroids when there were steroids IN my steroids.

I know right.......

[jbryand101b]

IM not pushing **** im saying THIS IS WHAT I WOULD DO AND WONDERING WHY HE DOESNT DO IT? ORAL STEROIDS ARE INJECTABLE STEROIDS, IVE GOTTEN BETTER GAINS OFF OF ORALS THEN PINNING, JUST TRYING TO HELP.

Calm down bro, have fun and don't sweat the small stuff.
This is for the kids amusement, THE KIDS!

[420Lifter]

Lol at this whole thing. still at +8lbs Donny

[bmftisftw]

I accidentally took steroids when there were steroids IN my steroids.

I know right.......

Haha

[DonnyG]

Sour - Yes SL Alpha One.

Hopped on the scaled this morning, up to 193lb. + 6 to start and I'm on day 10. Going to lift back tonight (DL is my favorite lift of the week).

I'm thinking of hitting back twice a week, maybe 4 days apart. One day will be heavy DL, pullups, and rows, and the other day would be centered around lat pulldowns/cambered lat pulldowns, chin ups, and hell maybe some bicep work. What do you bros think?

Last thing - let's keep it chill in here from here on out please. Nobody here is trying to offend anyone, we're all just trying to lift and get yoked. Too much stress everywhere else in life to be fighting on an e-board.

My site is oos on alpha 1, but I'll let you know when it's back in and if/when I'm able to grab another bottle. I'd like to start 60mg asap.

Donny

[bmftisftw]

what about on your second back day you include heavy Db rows in the 5-8 rep ranges for some extra strength work, Lat work and it will also help your grip as well as working your biceps pretty well.'kroc rows' or w.e they are called is what I'm coming from

[bmftisftw]

what about on your second back day you include heavy Db rows in the 5-8 rep ranges for some extra strength work, Lat work and it will also help your grip as well as working your biceps pretty well.'kroc rows' or w.e they are called is what I'm coming from

That is with the assumption that you're doing Barbell rows on the first back day

[DonnyG]

BB rows is correct. I'll def add some DB rows in there. For some reason I got away from doing them a while back, why not bring them back? Thanks man.

[bmftisftw]

BB rows is correct. I'll def add some DB rows in there. For some reason I got away from doing them a while back, why not bring them back? Thanks man.

No prob, I was the same way. I also feel if done right you can get more of a squeeze at the top of the movement

[jbryand101b]

He seems like the all too familiar guy at the gym trying to talk you in to using while half assing his workouts

this is totally me ^,
as you can see from this video, I totally half ass my workouts. in fact, anyone who isn't doing more than this, is half assing their workouts and if you're doing less, of course, we're all the same, so that means you aren't doing hardly anything! oh yea, this is off cycle.