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    Quote Originally Posted by bmftisftw

    My bad..
    Not trying to call you out just trying to help. These vitamin shops sell multiple steroid supplements and the idiots have no idea what they are. Some have sdrol and Hdrol all in one under dosed and they sell them with out even recommending support supps. They just say they are test boosters. It's easier then most think.
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    especially with a propretary blend and no compund listed just a trademarked name like methly sten TM and 20 other actual t-boosting ingredients, truce is on, log time, checkout my prolactrone log, awesome update.
    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    Not trying to call you out just trying to help. These vitamin shops sell multiple steroid supplements and the idiots have no idea what they are. Some have sdrol and Hdrol all in one under dosed and they sell them with out even recommending support supps. They just say they are test boosters. It's easier then most think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    especially with a propretary blend and no compund listed just a trademarked name like methly sten TM and 20 other actual t-boosting ingredients, truce is on, log time, checkout my prolactrone log, awesome update.
    Link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift

    Not trying to call you out just trying to help. These vitamin shops sell multiple steroid supplements and the idiots have no idea what they are. Some have sdrol and Hdrol all in one under dosed and they sell them with out even recommending support supps. They just say they are test boosters. It's easier then most think.
    I understand LTL its no big deal I know you usually don't mean anything maliciously
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmftisftw

    Link?
    ....you've never heard of mass tabs?

    There's no link to it...it's no longer made. Only place your likely to find it is on some dusty local supp shop shelf... in the test booster section.



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    type in prolactrone ul find it on AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough

    ....you've never heard of mass tabs?

    There's no link to it...it's no longer made. Only place your likely to find it is on some dusty local supp shop shelf... in the test booster section.



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    Alright bros sorry for the lack of updates lately. The first few days of the month are crucial in my business, and I've been hard pressed to do anything outside of work and hitting the gym. Also had a little cold over the weekend, which didn't help. Shook it, and I'm back better than ever.

    Did back yesterday. Decent workout. Only hit 315 on deads, but I felt like a zombie (took nyquil the night before and only slept 6 hours, it was like I was sleepwalking in the gym). Like I said earlier in the thread, diet has been iffy, but that's largely due to the fact that I was coming down with a cold. Smashed like an animal yesterday and now I'm feeling better than ever.

    Update on the sides - no shutdown as of yet. Still hitting it on the regular and the boys are intact. Acne is starting to come out a BIT, nothing like SD though.

    Strength and longevity in the gym have been the biggest pros to this ds. Really want to push it to 60mg but I don't have another bottle in hand and can't find one anywhere. Might just start taking the full dose an hour before the gym on lifting days. Thoughts?

    Hitting chest tonight. I'll keep you guys posted on how I do. I think I'm going to order 2 bottles of stanodrol tonight to work into a bridge.
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    UPDATE

    F-UCK IT, I'm going to 60mg

    I have enough left in the bottle to run 60mg for the next 10 days, so that's what I'm going to do. I'm still going to pick up a bottle or two of stano to bridge into. I'll let you bros know when it's on its way.

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    60mg is where it's at. If I run it again def 60mg all the way.
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    Ran it at the gym. Did so many dips between sets that I lost count. Might have hit 100 reps. Would have stayed longer, but monday is amateur night and thus too packed to stay.

    CHEST

    Incline BB
    135x10
    135x10
    155x10
    175x5
    185x5

    Flat BB
    135x15
    155x5
    175x5
    185x5
    205x5

    Tricep Pulldown Rope
    100x10
    100x10
    110x10
    120x10

    Ez-Curl Bicep Curls (just to get the pump...pictured my bis turning into mountains - shout to arnold)
    60x10
    70x10
    80x10
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnyG View Post
    Ran it at the gym. Did so many dips between sets that I lost count. Might have hit 100 reps. Would have stayed longer, but monday is amateur night and thus too packed to stay.

    CHEST

    Incline BB
    135x10
    135x10
    155x10
    175x5
    185x5

    Flat BB
    135x15
    155x5
    175x5
    185x5
    205x5

    Tricep Pulldown Rope
    100x10
    100x10
    110x10
    120x10

    Ez-Curl Bicep Curls (just to get the pump...pictured my bis turning into mountains - shout to arnold)
    60x10
    70x10
    80x10
    Nice numbers bro. Concentrating on raising incline? I noticed you have that as compound.
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    LTL thank you bro. The big exercises I work on are flat bb, incline bb, seated military press, deads, and squats. Everything else is accessory work to me.

    I'd love to see 225 on the incline press. 185 was feeling good yesterday. I've hit higher, but never with that much ease. I'm trying to put my ego aside and lift more reps of a lower weight before I move up. I just don't want to get complacent with a number...there's a fine line.
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    Another note - I haven't used DBs for chest in probably over a year. What are your guys thoughts on DB vs BB for chest routines?

    Standing arnold press, front raises and bicep hammer curls are the only times I use dbs consistently as of right now.
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    I think both db and bb have their own place. though some may push bb as a better mass gainer. standing arnnies r crazy lol . i know its meant to be best while on to push for more volume during workouts do u feel u could after ur final set drop the weight back down 40% and push out a last set of very high reps to really get that blood flooding into each muscle group????
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    klint - 100% i could. i'm about to go in in about 30 minutes. not sure what i want to lift tonight...might go full body with it. i'll keep you guys posted on how 60mg is treating me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnyG View Post
    klint - 100% i could. i'm about to go in in about 30 minutes. not sure what i want to lift tonight...might go full body with it. i'll keep you guys posted on how 60mg is treating me.
    Cool let us know. And since ur now at 60mg ed did u dose one in the am and two preworkout or vice versa?

    Also ur thread made me wanna pick up some alpha since i already have some sd on hand but havent tried it. I noticed shredded labs stopped selling it so i found one bottle on ebay for 40 bucks(kinda sketch but beggers cant be choosers.) my question is would you run

    60/60/60 or 40/40/40/40? was thinking like 5 days at 40 and run out the rest of bottle at 60 especially since u say it kicks in super quick i think 3 week doses would be sufficient and im either stacking or bridging as well with stano. THanks man. Keep up the good work!
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    Imo wrath id say bridge it start stano mid ish cycle. if used to harsher ph start high. i am going to start at 40 first week then see how it treats me. everyone reacts didferent though. donny did u rep out??
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    wrath - 20mg when I wake up, 40 approx 1 hour before the gym

    40 mg for the first week is a great way to ease into it. The bp headaches are definitely a factor, so I'd say easing into 60mg is the way to go.

    Tonight was the first huge workout on 60mg. I crushed it for about 2 hours and could have gone longer but I got hungry. Just smashed a serious taco salad.

    Seated BB Military Press
    95x10
    115x10
    135x10
    145x10
    155x8
    165x5...Could have gone higher, but wanted to save my strength
    135x10

    Widegrip Seated Cable Row
    100x15
    110x15
    120x15
    130x15

    Supersetted with DB Front Raises
    15lb x 8
    20lb x 8 x3

    Seated DB Military Press (First time I've done these in a while...I want to start incorporating DBs more in my routines)
    35 x 10
    45 x 10
    55 x 10...Felt great, will go heavier next time

    Standing Arnold Press
    25 x 10 x 3

    Supersetted with 45lb plate shrugs (one of my favorite exercises)
    Plates x 10 x 3

    Decided to hit tris at the end of the workout

    V-bar tricep pulldown
    100 x 15
    120 x 15
    130 x 15
    140 x 15

    Closegrip BB Benchpress
    95 x 10
    115 x 10
    135 x 10
    135 x 10

    Bros I can't stress enough, 60mg is the sweet spot for this stuff. I'm definitely going to be sad to see the bottle go. Great run so far, sides are minimal and strength and longevity is outstanding.

    Tomorrow I'm going to hit back again.
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    have you tracked your BP at all? I remember you talking about the headaches but I don't remember any numbers... How high has it been? I mean it must not be too bad, youre not dead or anything. Just curious where youre at
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    Hey donny what do u think a bout brigding this with non meth ( eg andro bulk or stano) for for weeks then go back on alpha one for 3 more weeks then pct of clomod and nolva plus test boaster anti c and e. sort of serms for 4 weeks and intetgrating a.i and c for 3 weeks starting in week 3 of pct.??? Think that would be insane !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by klint View Post
    Hey donny what do u think a bout brigding this with non meth ( eg andro bulk or stano) for for weeks then go back on alpha one for 3 more weeks then pct of clomod and nolva plus test boaster anti c and e. sort of serms for 4 weeks and intetgrating a.i and c for 3 weeks starting in week 3 of pct.??? Think that would be insane !!
    Yikes man, I hope you would get bloods after the first Alpha-1 round to be sure your liver is ok for another round?
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    Take some tudca and the liver won't be an issue, but your lipids and general health will def be taking a hit!

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    True but if u run gw that should help with lipo and health . was thinking to use high doses of healthy bacteria to help sort out colesterol. prob some other supps to.

    Could be one hell of a cycle though
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    What is "gw"??
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayjay View Post
    What is "gw"??
    A sarm

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    Wow I didn't know SARM's could help mitigate sides. I thought they were more like AAS in effect/sides just mild...
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    ...how does gw help?

    Please explain with proof.

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    htt:llen.m.wikipedia.org/WIki/ GW_501516#section 2
    Lets hope i read this right. certainly from a fat lose point this could be useful but like many sarms it has both pros and cons. am sure used in a pct or a brigde it has its place. but sourdough honestly would like ur view .
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    ... it may help with hdl but states nothing about lowering ldl... the biggest issue with extensive and high doses aas usage.

    Sounds like a great compound, but not something to be taken as a support supplement to a cycle...

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    Fair very . i think the potential of sarms and the enginering in the future could be quite something. will give this a go some time next . as the logs on it soumd very intetesting :-).
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    I'm going to keep it to 1 bottle of M1A and a couple bottles of stano. I definitely don't feel shutdown yet....my boys are still in full effect and i'm rocking my girls world lately.

    60mg is starting to produce a little bit of acne, nothing too serious. About to go crush back. I'll keep you guys posted.
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    Sweet. Donny hows u feeling on 60 now r the pros out waying the negs??
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    idk i havent ran it either but i have read its pretty harsh and your only suppose to run it for 2-3 weeks only just like with M1T.
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    Rayjay - no i haven't measured bp

    klint - 60 is where it's at bro, not sweating the sides at all.

    Shutdown/sides by now on SD is so much worse than what I'm experiencing from M1A. I wish I could run this for 8 weeks, but unfortunately the bottle is coming close to empty. I have 2 bottles of stanodrol on the way and will start running it at 800mg ED as soon as it arrives.
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    Ur cycle seems to be flying by
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    Anyone ran the new dieselbolan v2.0 ? Supposed to be very superior to superdrol in terms of sides/ gains ratio. Not very clued up on this compound tho as its fairly new
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    I've just upped my Alpha 1 to 60 as well.

    I am exactly the same as you, no sides other than acne.
    Took 2 about 45 minutes before training yesterday and found i had more drive.

    I am using mine in a cutting cycle so thought that may have decreased the effectiveness.
    Still haven't lost any strength while being at a 600 calorie deficit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnyG View Post
    If I notice a serious difference between M1A and SD I might save 1 pill and send it to PA with $100 to test it. It would be worth it to me to know what I took.
    Just a heads up - I'm not quite done with M1A...I think I have 3 days left. I'm strongly considering sending my last pill out for testing. If anybody knows a reputable company that handles this type of thing please PM me. I'll contact PA, and if he's up to it I'd be happy to send it to his lab.

    I've loved this cycle and am a believer in M1A. I've never felt so great while on. Best of all...I've felt next to zero shutdown. Libido has been out of control actually. As I said before, I wish I could run this longer. It's a shame that there aren't more clones of this readily available.

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