Opinions on CEL P-Plex and Iron Labs Epi Xtreme stacking

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    What is Methyl D?
    methyldienolone, on the the site it's MDIEN. I thought you wanted to see the Phera/EPI log?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Vick

    methyldienolone, on the the site it's MDIEN. I thought you wanted to see the Phera/EPI log?
    I do I'm just saying that I'd like Phera/SD even more. What r u running with Mdien?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    I do I'm just saying that I'd like Phera/SD even more. What r u running with Mdien?
    I'm thinking about running the Phera before the gym and MDIEN in the morning, then bridge the EPI. The M1T was out or I would have been doing that with the Phera.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Vick

    I'm thinking about running the Phera before the gym and MDIEN in the morning, then bridge the EPI. The M1T was out or I would have been doing that with the Phera.
    So I assume this is a bulk right?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    So I assume this is a bulk right?
    Yeah but I try to balance the water retention with a dry compound, which is why I am using the Helios too.
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  6. i wouldn't stack any methyl compounds with methyl dienolone, maybe a low dose of epi, like 20mg e/d for the 4 weeks of mdiene, then 2 weeks of epi solo at 40mg.

    def wouldn't stack sd and mdiene together. I have some of each, and wont do it.

    my next cycle is going to be 3 weeks of m1t (15mg), then 3 weeks of mdiene(14mg), followed up with 4 weeks of stanodrol (900mg).

    4-andro-diol & bold 200 ran during the first 6 weeks at 600mg each.

    test base, bulkers, hardners.

  7. thats gonna be sick
    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    i wouldn't stack any methyl compounds with methyl dienolone, maybe a low dose of epi, like 20mg e/d for the 4 weeks of mdiene, then 2 weeks of epi solo at 40mg.

    def wouldn't stack sd and mdiene together. I have some of each, and wont do it.

    my next cycle is going to be 3 weeks of m1t (15mg), then 3 weeks of mdiene(14mg), followed up with 4 weeks of stanodrol (900mg).

    4-andro-diol & bold 200 ran during the first 6 weeks at 600mg each.

    test base, bulkers, hardners.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Vick

    Yeah but I try to balance the water retention with a dry compound, which is why I am using the Helios too.
    I see, damn stacking those 2 will b really harsh though, i'd take Jbry advice I can't comment on the toxicity of mdien, he knows a lot about it.

  9. methyl dieneolone is methyl trienolone's little brother.

    mdiene isn't as toxic as methyl tren (thank goodness) but it def isn't recomended to stack with another (methylated) compound.

    hell, im worried about running it AFTER a low dose of m1t.

  10. Personally I think the toxicity is way overrated because of the bad press. You get these dumb drunks taking it to look good at the bar and yeah you're gonna have liver problems. Back in the 90s I was taking cheque drops or halotestin with Anadrol before the gym and that was on 1g of test/wk. I've never gone over 6 weeks on 17aas though and would switch to Proviron and Primo tabs to dry out. This is my first round with stack PHs so if my eyes turn yellow I'll be the first to admit it and if they don't and my labs say my liver isnt shutting down then I'll log that too. Right now I'm basing my stacks on this info:

    Class I = binds to androgen receptor
    Class II = does not

    These pro-hormone classifications are based on their steroid counterparts. If there are any revisions needed PLEASE post so below. If that goes unnoticed, PM me.

    Class I

    Desoxymethyltestosterone/DMT (Madol) based phs - Pheraplex & clones
    Mepitiostane (Thioderon) based - Epistane & Clones (like Havoc & so on so forth)
    Dienolone based - (again similar to tren) - Mdien
    Progestin based - (similar to trenbolone) - Trenadrol & Trenaplex
    Boldenone based - 1,4AD & Bold
    DHT (Dihydrotestosterone) based phs - M5AA

    Class II
    Dianabol (methandrostenolone) based - M1,4ADD, M1T, 1-T, Methyl XT
    Masteron (Dromostanolone) based - Superdrol & Clones
    Oral Turinabol (Dehydrochlormethyltestosteron e) based - Halodrol & Clones
    Winstrol (stanozolol) based - Winztrol, Orastan-A, Furaguno, etc
    Furazabol (miotolan) based - Furazadrol etc
    Progesterone based - Revolt, Propadrol, Max LMG
    Clostebol based - Chlorodrol, Oxyguno
    Testosterone - 4-AD

  11. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    i wouldn't stack any methyl compounds with methyl dienolone, maybe a low dose of epi, like 20mg e/d for the 4 weeks of mdiene, then 2 weeks of epi solo at 40mg.

    def wouldn't stack sd and mdiene together. I have some of each, and wont do it.

    my next cycle is going to be 3 weeks of m1t (15mg), then 3 weeks of mdiene(14mg), followed up with 4 weeks of stanodrol (900mg).

    4-andro-diol & bold 200 ran during the first 6 weeks at 600mg each.

    test base, bulkers, hardners.
    How would say they compare to oral AAS? I hear Phera is like Dbol and MHN is like Var, but what about M1T,EPI,and MDIEN?

  12. phera is phera, dbol is dbol, var is var, epi is epi, they are all oral androgenic/anabolic steroids, and are all different.

    i dont think people such as the op should be using steroids, as they dont know anything about what they are using or doing.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b
    i wouldn't stack any methyl compounds with methyl dienolone, maybe a low dose of epi, like 20mg e/d for the 4 weeks of mdiene, then 2 weeks of epi solo at 40mg.

    def wouldn't stack sd and mdiene together. I have some of each, and wont do it.

    my next cycle is going to be 3 weeks of m1t (15mg), then 3 weeks of mdiene(14mg), followed up with 4 weeks of stanodrol (900mg).

    4-andro-diol & bold 200 ran during the first 6 weeks at 600mg each.

    test base, bulkers, hardners.
    Thats a pretty serious cycle, is bold 200 a ph or are talking about eq?
    Christopher
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/239904-csa2179s-hulk-mirror.html#post4289751

  14. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b
    phera is phera, dbol is dbol, var is var, epi is epi, they are all oral androgenic/anabolic steroids, and are all different.

    i dont think people such as the op should be using steroids, as they dont know anything about what they are using or doing.
    True statement. Someone came to me yesterday, asked if they should use trenazone, he didn't know jack sh*t about it, I was actually offended at his level of stupidity, and yes he called it a prohormone. *facepalm*

  15. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    phera is phera, dbol is dbol, var is var, epi is epi, they are all oral androgenic/anabolic steroids, and are all different.

    i dont think people such as the op should be using steroids, as they dont know anything about what they are using or doing.
    Dude you don't know the first thing about me and you just revealed how ignorant you are, just say you don't know because you've never probably done a real cycle and don't know how to compare the EFFECTIVENESS. Everyone responds differently, some people are even nonresponders. I came here because the forum I moderate is strictly on gear, but I see I'm not going to learn anything here. On a positive note, if anyone needs help from real vets on gear see me here because I'm not logging in here again.

    musclediscussion.com/members/vick.html

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Vick View Post
    Dude you don't know the first thing about me and you just revealed how ignorant you are, just say you don't know because you've never probably done a real cycle and don't know how to compare the EFFECTIVENESS. Everyone responds differently, some people are even nonresponders. I came here because the forum I moderate is strictly on gear, but I see I'm not going to learn anything here. On a positive note, if anyone needs help from real vets on gear see me here because I'm not logging in here again.

    musclediscussion.com/members/vick.html
    bwahahahaa.... bye!
    Log of EPIC by FRL - http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/202576-should-epic-frl.html

  17. Quote Originally Posted by StangBanger

    bwahahahaa.... bye!
    I think what pissed Jbry off is that everything Vick mentioned is still oral AAS, old school guys usually get the classifications wrong or just have lack of knowledge because years ago there wasn't the amount of information we have available, and they don't bother to research further.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    I think what pissed Jbry off is that everything Vick mentioned is still oral AAS, old school guys usually get the classifications wrong or just have lack of knowledge because years ago there wasn't the amount of information we have available, and they don't bother to research further.
    that and him pm'ing me asking me for a source for m1t.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b

    that and him pm'ing me asking me for a source for m1t.
    Yeah just a few minutes and he could've found that easily.

  20. troll screw him man
    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    that and him pm'ing me asking me for a source for m1t.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Vick View Post
    Dude you don't know the first thing about me and you just revealed how ignorant you are, just say you don't know because you've never probably done a real cycle and don't know how to compare the EFFECTIVENESS. Everyone responds differently, some people are even nonresponders. I came here because the forum I moderate is strictly on gear, but I see I'm not going to learn anything here. On a positive note, if anyone needs help from real vets on gear see me here because I'm not logging in here again.

    musclediscussion.com/members/vick.html
    Well to be fair, he didn't attack you personally. He just opined that you aren't knowledgeable about the hormones you're planning to use. He's right, and it was evident from several of your posts. Especially the post where you state how your reasoning for the stack was based on that article that assigns "type I" and "type II" classifications for some past and present otc ph/ds. I've seen that post about the type I&II info come up many times online, and it's full of inaccurate info, not the least of which is their arbitrary classification system. If you knew a lot about androgens, you wouldn't have based your cycle on that particular source of info. In fact, if you were knowledgeable about "gear" you would know that the same basic rules apply to the otc stuff as to oral aas.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by jason79 View Post
    Well to be fair, he didn't attack you personally. He just opined that you aren't knowledgeable about the hormones you're planning to use. He's right, and it was evident from several of your posts. Especially the post where you state how your reasoning for the stack was based on that article that assigns "type I" and "type II" classifications for some past and present otc ph/ds. I've seen that post about the type I&II info come up many times online, and it's full of inaccurate info, not the least of which is their arbitrary classification system. If you knew a lot about androgens, you wouldn't have based your cycle on that particular source of info. In fact, if you were knowledgeable about "gear" you would know that the same basic rules apply to the otc stuff as to oral aas.
    Are you really that retarded? No **** I wasn't knowledgeable that's why I was ****ing asking! Just keep your trap shut if you got nothing to offer.

  23. Why did you check back in six weeks later after vowing to never return to these forums?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by sidoious
    Why did you check back in six weeks later after vowing to never return to these forums?
    Ikr lol

  25. do you guys really have nothing better to do than troll? If I didnt have to log in to read posts from intelligent people believe me I woudn't.

  26. well, what questions do you have.

    most people who want to keep their questions private and more direct pm me, but others just ask in the thread.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Vick View Post
    Are you really that retarded? No **** I wasn't knowledgeable that's why I was ****ing asking! Just keep your trap shut if you got nothing to offer.
    So you aren't knowledgeable but yet you claimed to moderate a aas forum in a previous post? A forum that you then direct people to in order to learn about "real gear"? So you know about aas but not ph? Again, this proves my earlier point.
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