Opinions on CEL P-Plex and Iron Labs Epi Xtreme stacking
- 05-30-2012, 10:21 PM
- 05-31-2012, 10:20 AM
05-31-2012, 10:30 AM
epi/phera... doesnt make sense... read up more on the compounds... pretty sure jbry would agree it is not a good combo.
Log of EPIC by FRL - http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/202576-should-epic-frl.html
05-31-2012, 10:46 AM
Yeah I agree and jbry already said that cuz some of epi does metabolize into phera already.Originally Posted by StangBanger
05-31-2012, 10:47 AM
05-31-2012, 11:11 AM
05-31-2012, 11:21 AM
I do I'm just saying that I'd like Phera/SD even more. What r u running with Mdien?Originally Posted by Vick
05-31-2012, 12:06 PM
05-31-2012, 12:31 PM
05-31-2012, 01:28 PM
05-31-2012, 02:04 PM
i wouldn't stack any methyl compounds with methyl dienolone, maybe a low dose of epi, like 20mg e/d for the 4 weeks of mdiene, then 2 weeks of epi solo at 40mg.
def wouldn't stack sd and mdiene together. I have some of each, and wont do it.
my next cycle is going to be 3 weeks of m1t (15mg), then 3 weeks of mdiene(14mg), followed up with 4 weeks of stanodrol (900mg).
4-andro-diol & bold 200 ran during the first 6 weeks at 600mg each.
test base, bulkers, hardners.
05-31-2012, 02:45 PM
05-31-2012, 03:37 PM
I see, damn stacking those 2 will b really harsh though, i'd take Jbry advice I can't comment on the toxicity of mdien, he knows a lot about it.Originally Posted by Vick
05-31-2012, 05:29 PM
methyl dieneolone is methyl trienolone's little brother.
mdiene isn't as toxic as methyl tren (thank goodness) but it def isn't recomended to stack with another (methylated) compound.
hell, im worried about running it AFTER a low dose of m1t.
05-31-2012, 05:47 PM
Personally I think the toxicity is way overrated because of the bad press. You get these dumb drunks taking it to look good at the bar and yeah you're gonna have liver problems. Back in the 90s I was taking cheque drops or halotestin with Anadrol before the gym and that was on 1g of test/wk. I've never gone over 6 weeks on 17aas though and would switch to Proviron and Primo tabs to dry out. This is my first round with stack PHs so if my eyes turn yellow I'll be the first to admit it and if they don't and my labs say my liver isnt shutting down then I'll log that too. Right now I'm basing my stacks on this info:
Class I = binds to androgen receptor
Class II = does not
These pro-hormone classifications are based on their steroid counterparts. If there are any revisions needed PLEASE post so below. If that goes unnoticed, PM me.
Desoxymethyltestosterone/DMT (Madol) based phs - Pheraplex & clones
Mepitiostane (Thioderon) based - Epistane & Clones (like Havoc & so on so forth)
Dienolone based - (again similar to tren) - Mdien
Progestin based - (similar to trenbolone) - Trenadrol & Trenaplex
Boldenone based - 1,4AD & Bold
DHT (Dihydrotestosterone) based phs - M5AA
Dianabol (methandrostenolone) based - M1,4ADD, M1T, 1-T, Methyl XT
Masteron (Dromostanolone) based - Superdrol & Clones
Oral Turinabol (Dehydrochlormethyltestosteron e) based - Halodrol & Clones
Winstrol (stanozolol) based - Winztrol, Orastan-A, Furaguno, etc
Furazabol (miotolan) based - Furazadrol etc
Progesterone based - Revolt, Propadrol, Max LMG
Clostebol based - Chlorodrol, Oxyguno
Testosterone - 4-AD
05-31-2012, 06:01 PM
05-31-2012, 09:21 PM
phera is phera, dbol is dbol, var is var, epi is epi, they are all oral androgenic/anabolic steroids, and are all different.
i dont think people such as the op should be using steroids, as they dont know anything about what they are using or doing.
05-31-2012, 09:26 PM
Thats a pretty serious cycle, is bold 200 a ph or are talking about eq?Originally Posted by jbryand101b
05-31-2012, 09:38 PM
True statement. Someone came to me yesterday, asked if they should use trenazone, he didn't know jack sh*t about it, I was actually offended at his level of stupidity, and yes he called it a prohormone. *facepalm*Originally Posted by jbryand101b
05-31-2012, 10:36 PM
05-31-2012, 10:50 PM
05-31-2012, 10:55 PM
I think what pissed Jbry off is that everything Vick mentioned is still oral AAS, old school guys usually get the classifications wrong or just have lack of knowledge because years ago there wasn't the amount of information we have available, and they don't bother to research further.Originally Posted by StangBanger
05-31-2012, 10:57 PM
05-31-2012, 11:46 PM
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