SARMS Osta or S4??
- 03-11-2011, 07:32 PM
- 03-11-2011, 10:53 PM
I am confused. The conspiracy you are referring to was just made up out of thin air by YOU. I never implied that you were russianstar or nate, or whomever.
All i mentioned is that russianstar ( a known affiliate of mrsupps/NTBM ) claims he isnt affiliated with SS, but issues a copyrighted document written by him that says property of SS. Then we have the NTBM squad pimping SS.
You tried to make it sound CRAZY, but the facts remain. Why would someone so obviously biased be a reputable source for product recommendations? If anything, now I just think you're a liar, with a terrible sense of humor - instead of just another biased rep.For me, the action IS the juice.
03-11-2011, 11:49 PM
03-12-2011, 05:07 AM
03-12-2011, 04:42 PM
Outstanding who is a NTBM rep has actually used SS so he recommends it.
Unrealmachine (taking time off the forums) who is another NTBM rep does not use SS but another place AND logged it the other places stuff. OMGZ.
Unreal told me about the place he uses and I (a NTBM rep) will probably use them when I want OSTA and they are not even SS. OMGZ.
Please get your facts straight before making crazy conspiracy theories as to why someone is recommending SS. Some of our reps use SS like the many other members of this board who buy research chems and some of us reps do not use them.
03-12-2011, 05:05 PM
03-12-2011, 05:35 PM
For me, the action IS the juice.
03-12-2011, 05:39 PM
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03-12-2011, 10:01 PM
03-13-2011, 11:42 AM
Just thought it was worth stopping back in and mentioning, without going into too much eye-glazing-over detail, that I simply will not endorse a product I don't believe works. Period. End of story.
I rep for NTBM yes, but also recently I made a very candid and respectful point not to promote a certain product because I haven't personally tried it - I made this decision publicly and in front of all the other reps and senior leaders of the forums. I, as a person, am much more than a bodybuilder - I am a grown man with a very stringent set of beliefs and morals, and none of those are going to be eroded and selectively chipped away at, all because I receive some free products every month.
Do I religiously use and depend upon Need 2 Slin, Need 2 Guard, and go absolutely CRAZY over Better Protein Bars all from NTBM? Yes, I do. Do I also use MANY other products from many other companies I've also outlined many times over here on Anabolic Minds, in my personal journal, and elsewhere on the Internet? Every day!
That being said, it's sad that my/our connections and motivations behind what we type and claim comes into question so often as a whole - BUT, I can't say I don't see where other members are coming from with all the sketchy operations that go on here.
So, Soon to be Beast, is just trying to embark on a little journey of understanding and trying to uncloud the stage of knowledge, so that he can navigate his choices as a consumer better. I was sarcastic earlier, because I thought it was funny (and still do) but by no means to I dismiss the fact when someone is looking at spending $150 on a product, they want solid and reliable advice from those of us who have used said product.
So, OSTA from *********** does work, and it is working very well. It took a full three weeks to become apparent as far as undeniable fat loss and muscle fullness effects, and I understand $5 a serving is something previously unprecedented; but there have been literally zero side effects encountered, and I believe it is a worthy additive to anyone's program looking to retain muscle while losing fat-mass. So, in essence I would describe SARMS as an inducer of the often sought favorable body composition change.
03-13-2011, 01:56 PM
03-13-2011, 02:15 PM
I love SS OSTA, I used it with great success, but its so expensive, I know there not the only shop out there, but no bad reviews may make it worth the extra $$$
03-13-2011, 04:16 PM
03-13-2011, 04:44 PM
03-13-2011, 09:54 PM
Do you guys know if there are any european research chem webpages that sells sarms? If you do please PM me
As far as I know asking for a research chem is okay? I am sorry if am wrong, then just ignore me
03-14-2011, 01:40 PM
03-14-2011, 01:42 PM
03-14-2011, 01:49 PM
The bloods I have seen on OSTA show increased E2 levels. This makes sense since increasing T will also result in an increase in E. But the bloods also show OSTA to slighly supressive in high doses say 20-25 mg. In high doses OSTA appears have basically the same sides as most other steroids. Remember the test subjects only received 3mg/day. Moreover, most users claim that there is little difference in strength increases between 15-25 mg/day.
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