You're defense is classic-->you bring up unsubstantiated claims and then say "prove me wrong," without presenting any evidence. And "Willieman," you're wrong, if you read on. Have you never checked out Mike or Sledges lab reports? Or Patrick Arnolds, for that matter? Are you that blinded by the marketing engine that fuels the crooked industry that you actually believe no one can test their ****? WTF?! I have no interest other than personal testing...I dug out all of this info on my own, which is a lot more than you bitches did.
So only because I don't want to hear you buzzing bullshit in my ear and confusing people on this board, I will post what I've read:
"I had posted this link on avant about 5-6 months ago. The test was done on the powder, not the bottles. I had consumers asking what
purity the powder I had was. I was selling M1T raw powder to a select few back then while my tabs were being done. I had used a new source for m1t and I wanted to
verify the COA, which said 90%. Luckily it was accurate. This is why you have to provide lab assays before running a compound. I use 3 different bottlers and every one of them requires a lab assay so they know how to run their machines. They would use 5.55mg of material to get 5mg of active material. This is not an uncommon thing."
--Mike, owner of 1Fast400, from this post:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?threadid=279048&highlight=purity
Next, after outrage from the educated elite who post on bb.com, he posts this:
"haha. Everyone here, at least with a little knowledge, know what the other .5mg is and they aren't going to complain about that I assure you. "
Then he posts this:
"Would you like on of the other 4-5 lab assays I have on M1T? I use a USA supplier at this point. I have an idea, why don't you show me 1 company that sells a 100% pure M1T. Guess what, it doesn't exist. You would know this if you ever sourced anything."
PATRICK ARNOLD, then weighs in with this:
"As a chemist who is probably more familiar with the synthesis of delta-1-androstanes then anyone in the world, i will tell you what the most likely side products are
mestanalone, methyltestosteorne, and
dianabol
now, not to say that this comprised the other 10% of the materail. but they ARE the most likely candidates"
NOW-->
Here is the lab assay for you:
http://www.avantlabs.com/images/miketest.gif
To which the people in the know at Avant Labs forums reply:
"You sure it didn't test out at 9D%?"
What do you think they meant by 9% D? What else begins with a capital D?
ADDITIONALLY:
In terms of synthesis:
Methyl-1-T is derived from 5alpha reduced starting materials (i.e. not estrogen conversion possible)..however, a poor (or incomplete or rushed) reduction of starting materials could easily leave behind androstanes that, as Patrick said, become Dbol or MethylTest.
Methyl 1,4ADD is a boldenone precursor, specifically methylboldenone, or DBol, which is the only thing it can convert to in vivo. The reason why some M1,4ADD batches was bad is based on an entirely different reaction.
SUMMATION:
#1 Comparing this issue to anything else (M1,4 ADD, M4OHN, MDien) does nothing but obscure your own ability to objectively evaluate evidence...your propensity to believe conspiracy thoeries and evil behind-the-scenes marketing tricks, combined with your inability to chop through the weeds of deceit with your finely honed episthtemic scythe to arrive at your OWN conlusion belies your ignorance.
#2 Given the fact that both Dianabol (methandrostenolone) and methyltestosterone are both highly estrogenic, and regularly induce bloating, and M1T can really only have progestrogenic sides on paper (pro-g gyno), where are all of the bloat reports coming from? The guys that "fish out" on it, just like an aromatizable? Dianbol aromatizes, methyltest aromatizes, M1T DOES NOT--How can you deny the fact that 1Test produces "dry gains," and M1T should also, but for "some reason" it doesn't work this way with certain people or batches? Applying Occam's Razor here says the most plausible, easiest answer is the conclusion I already posted before you farted out of your mouth some conspiracy bullshit. Mike, who regularly tests this stuff, unlike a lot of cats, says that it's impossible to get a pure batch...so you're getting anywhere from 1% to up to 15-20% AROMATIZABLE STEROIDS. I will contact Mike tonight and put this **** to rest with a few more lab assays on some of the worst batches, if he can legally post them...I took his word for it, but you obviously don't.
#3 I find it funny that without any evidence to the contrary you have no problem calling two of the most knowledgable and responsible people in the industry liars--one of them started "labelclaimstesting.com" specifically to help consumers, and the other actually donates time and money to the USFA, unlike most company owners.
#4: From now on, I request that bitch asses shut the **** up next time they think I'm full of **** and don't know what I'm talking about.
If I thought my rather innocent post would have stirred the pot this bad, I wouldn't have posted...geesh.
Oh, and on top of it, I just emailed Patrick Arnold and will post his reply when I get it...I really don't like having to explain myself to people who talk **** with no evidence to the contrary.