Q & A for FINAFLEX 1-ANDRO

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post

    Why you're using PH's when you've only been working out for a year is beyond me..
    Well I've been workin out seriously for a year but I've lifted for bout 3.


  2. Most prohormones are shown to raise blood pressure on cycle, would it be wise to stay away from caffeine while on 1-Andro?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Tekstorm View Post
    Most prohormones are shown to raise blood pressure on cycle, would it be wise to stay away from caffeine while on 1-Andro?
    should not be an issue at all
    one cannot count the # of ppl who use caffeine and other stimulants, while concurrently being on hormonal cycle..
    haven't heard of anybody dying from this combo yet

  4. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    should not be an issue at all
    one cannot count the # of ppl who use caffeine and other stimulants, while concurrently being on hormonal cycle..
    haven't heard of anybody dying from this combo yet
    I know I drank 2 or 3 monsters a week while I was on cycle and had no issues

  5. Thanks for the quick reply. If I encounter lethargy I wanted to have some kind of pick me up to get me through the work day.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Tekstorm View Post
    Thanks for the quick reply. If I encounter lethargy I wanted to have some kind of pick me up to get me through the work day.
    Yes like Snagency said.

    Honestly though you shouldn't need them as your drive and energy levels should INCREASE while on cycle.

    With the harsher methyl hormonal products on the market people often do encounter lethargy from taxation on the liver as well as other bodily organs. Our ph's are NOT methyls and won't cause any undue stress like the other mentioned products.
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  7. Conversion to 1AD and 1 test does cause lethargy is dosed decently enough for gains.
  8. Lethargy


    Iv read taking a test base on prohormones can help with lethargy ,is there any legal alternatives like say would testofen help?? My food intake is very high also

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Rapidfire View Post
    Iv read taking a test base on prohormones can help with lethargy ,is there any legal alternatives like say would testofen help?? My food intake is very high also
    sure
    stano is a very common go-to that acts as a base to combat lethargy..
    I find personally that 1-Alpha works well for me as base (stacking with 1-Andro), not that I am going out & advising this..just sharing
    dermacrine also is a nice option, among others

  10. 1-alpha as a base for 1-andro wth?!
    Are they not the same thing but one with a longer life and better absorption as claimed?

    IMO that's just getting more 1-DHEA in ur system.

    I'd recommend stano and derma though, or epiandro.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by MrPoop View Post
    1-alpha as a base for 1-andro wth?!
    Are they not the same thing but one with a longer life and better absorption as claimed?

    IMO that's just getting more 1-DHEA in ur system.

    I'd recommend stano and derma though, or epiandro.
    no, actually they are somewhat different in their effects, fyi
    and as I said - it works for me (some others who have tried as well), but it's not something I am advising
    but since you are not the product specialist or affiliated with the company, I question why you are even posting in our section of the forum, and trying to advise how to use our products in our company Q&A thread?

  12. How does trenavar stack with 1 andro

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Rapidfire View Post
    How does trenavar stack with 1 andro
    just fine..nice stack (i personally enjoy tvar), but I would still recommend a base

  14. What sort of dosage would I run the tvar-15 at? Iv done serveral cycles before

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Rapidfire View Post
    What sort of dosage would I run the tvar-15 at? Iv done serveral cycles before
    you probably don't want to know what i run that at srs
    but - the conversion is not as significant in oral dosing (compared to injectable), so higher dosages are required to get results somewhat comparable
    90mg/day is pretty common to see..some dose 100-150mg (and upward) daily

    understand, i cannot advise you on such a product officially, other than in general terms, since we do not make a product such as that and the company tends to frown on me advising what dosage to use of oral steroids from other companies

  16. Wow 90mg lol the bottle says 2 caps twice a day haha il ease onto it first week with 30mg tvar plus 3 caps a day of 1andro sounds good for first week then add another cap per compound next week

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Rapidfire View Post
    Wow 90mg lol the bottle says 2 caps twice a day haha il ease onto it first week with 30mg tvar plus 3 caps a day of 1andro sounds good for first week then add another cap per compound next week
    yes, some users (few) have reported benefits at 40-45mg/day, and i agree if you have never done it before and are closer to a new user overall, rather an experienced one -- this may be advisable
    always better to know the compound and experience it yourself, to make your own informed decision on how it treats you, and at what dosage

  18. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    no, actually they are somewhat different in their effects, fyi
    and as I said - it works for me (some others who have tried as well), but it's not something I am advising
    but since you are not the product specialist or affiliated with the company, I question why you are even posting in our section of the forum, and trying to advise how to use our products in our company Q&A thread?
    Care to explain how they are different in their effects?
    With the help of google the only quotes regarding 1 alpha and 1 andro from your company reps is that their effects are the same just that the alpha is the newer superior more powerful one without any further explanation.
    Sure it works for you as a base, but are you sure you are running the alpha and andro on their own instead of having other bases?
    Im pretty sure ive seen other finaflex reps explicitly state that u do not use 1-alpha or andro as a base for anything and if anything the andro would need a base to support it.

    As a consumer that likes to be informed of all things, I love to scout around to observe and expand my wisdom, hence i'm here.
    I like to clarify things more specifically instead of just reading "it can be used as a base" or "1 alpha has a ester attached hence it is longer lasting and better absorbed than the 1 andro while the 2 are basically the same".

  19. Quote Originally Posted by MrPoop View Post
    Care to explain how they are different in their effects?
    With the help of google the only quotes regarding 1 alpha and 1 andro from your company reps is that their effects are the same just that the alpha is the newer superior more powerful one without any further explanation.
    Sure it works for you as a base, but are you sure you are running the alpha and andro on their own instead of having other bases?
    Im pretty sure ive seen other finaflex reps explicitly state that u do not use 1-alpha or andro as a base for anything and if anything the andro would need a base to support it.

    As a consumer that likes to be informed of all things, I love to scout around to observe and expand my wisdom, hence i'm here.
    I like to clarify things more specifically instead of just reading "it can be used as a base" or "1 alpha has a ester attached hence it is longer lasting and better absorbed than the 1 andro while the 2 are basically the same".
    it is fine to ask questions, we encourage education and learning
    it is not however fine to carry yourself as the authority and instructor of our products, in our education threads
    I can see that you have done some reading from the popular sites on these products, that has not escaped my attention -- your quote on "lethargy and 600mg to be effective" comes right out of prohormonedb.com ....

    correct, 1-Andro is not a base
    I experimented during my prep to nationals last summer with using 1-Alpha for my base, in a couple different stacks that included 1-Andro..
    tho I personally get little to no lethargy experiences from 1-Andro, I was seeing some slight issue and decided to toss in the 1-Alpha instead of dermacrine (which I was out of at the time and had also used) or stano .... it worked like a charm, and I had zero lethargy issues during that time
    technically and with respect to advising, I state that a more traditional base be used to combat any unwanted sides above -- I simply share my own experience in what I have done, and what has worked ... and in fact, this discussion is not the first time it has taken place on this forum, it has been mentioned multiple times despite your claim of personally having not seen such

    as for your query "am I sure I was not using something else as a base", uh yeah man, that was kind of a silly question
    the only other things I was running were methylated compounds and tvar, as (mentioned above) I was out of derma att
  20. Guidence on 1-Alpha, 1-Andro and Epi-V cycle please


    I have used 1-Andro and Epi-V on a cycle I did last year for eight weeks in a 4 week 4 dose Andro then a 4 week 2 andro 2 epi stack and saw excellent results. After a job loss, breakup with my live in GF and cross country move to a new job I am now settled in and back at the gym. I have left over 1-andro (91) and Epi (66) and would like to incorporate it in a new 8 week cycle. I am intrigued by the new 1-Alpha and would like the know if I can safely use it as a jump start and a bridge to the 1-andro, Epi-v stack i used so effectively last year.

    My thinking is this -
    1) 5 days - 2 1-alpha (10 caps)
    2) 25 days - 2 1-alpha and 1 1-andro as a stack/ bridge (1 bottle of 1-Alpha used, 25 caps 1-andro)
    3) 33 days 2 caps 1-andro, 2 caps Epi-v taken 1/1 in a.m. and 1/1 p.m.
    This would use all of what I have on hand with the addition of 1 bottle of 1-alpha in 63 days which I feel is reasonable. I will use pure test and black for pct and I use milk thistle

    My thinking is since they are basically the same with 1-alpha having superior absorbtion and half life it would get me "on" faster and maintain into the 1-andro/Epi cycle but I am still being conservative given the longer cycle.

    Any thoughts from the reps? Is there a better way to use what I have available to me? BTW I am 51 and am looking for mass then to lean out. I am currently 170 with 15% body fat and looking for 180 at 10%

    Thank you in advance for your responses - I have found Finaflex reps to be excellent

  21. you could do that
    a lot of ppl wouldn't stack the andro/epiV combo, but at the tail end of a cycle like that, I'd say go for it
    optionally, you could just run the andro out, then run epiV solo
    keep in mind, epiV will work best when you are <10% bf, and incrementally better the leaner you are below that mark

  22. Thank you for your quick reply -
    I am still getting good results on just diet and training so I am not quite sure when I will start the cycle, but at least I know what to order. I will try to lean out a bit but I feel I can ajust half way through depending on how my fat% is with the Epi. The 2/2 combo enabled me to still gain some mass and I hardened and leaned out quite a bit. I am also a competitive sailor and cyclist so summers I lean out anyway. I want to keep the muscle and start the lean is my thought process.
  23. help for my first time use of finaflex


    So i'm a first timer and honestly have no idea what i should do exactly, my goal right now is to cut while gaining a small amount of muscle.

    I'm 21 years old
    I weigh 170 pounds,
    I'm 5ft 9"
    And around 10% body fat

    4 week cycle:
    2 capsules of 1-andro a day (1 in morning, 1 at night) for 4 weeks
    2 capsules of epi-v a day (1 in morning, 1 at night) for 4 weeks
    2 capsules of PCT revolution black (1 in the morning, 1 at night ) for 4 weeks
    Is there anything else i should be taking with this?

    4 Week PCT:
    4 capsules of PCT revolution black (2 in the morning, 2 at night) for 4 weeks
    I'm not sure if i need anything else like pure test? or something

    any help would be greatly appreciated! thanks

  24. Quote Originally Posted by shiiina View Post
    So i'm a first timer and honestly have no idea what i should do exactly, my goal right now is to cut while gaining a small amount of muscle.

    I'm 21 years old
    I weigh 170 pounds,
    I'm 5ft 9"
    And around 10% body fat

    4 week cycle:
    2 capsules of 1-andro a day (1 in morning, 1 at night) for 4 weeks
    2 capsules of epi-v a day (1 in morning, 1 at night) for 4 weeks
    2 capsules of PCT revolution black (1 in the morning, 1 at night ) for 4 weeks
    Is there anything else i should be taking with this?

    4 Week PCT:
    4 capsules of PCT revolution black (2 in the morning, 2 at night) for 4 weeks
    I'm not sure if i need anything else like pure test? or something

    any help would be greatly appreciated! thanks
    welcome to the forum...
    you got some more researching to do however, before you should be considering these products

    off the top, I know the fad thing everybody talks about is "cut while gain muscle"..
    truth be told, very few ppl can accomplish that, takes skill and experience, you are better off concentrating on one or the other

    as I said above: andro and epi not the best stack to roll with, and I certainly wouldn't suggest it as your first cycle

    you would not take any REV PCT while on cycle (unless needed), and you would never take REV PCT in morning at any time...this is meant to be dosed at bedtime, and on empty stomach

    honestly, I would suggest you do some more research and self-education before engaging in PH use
    we are pleased you have chosen FINAFLEX as your initial product of choice, and suitability-wise, these are the right products for a first-timer to be looking at (mild and safe, very low potential of minimal side effects), but personally I think one should be well-educated on hormonal substances and the products in question before one considers using them

    thanks for your post

  25. Not trying to call you out Shinna but I couldn't help but notice your post looks very similar to this other post in another thread by a guy named gabriel. Is there a reason why you changed your name? I noticed your BF went up 2% in 5 days but no weight gain.

    GABRIELS POST FROM TODAY:

    So i'm a first timer and honestly have no idea what i should do exactly, my goal right now is to cut while gaining a small amount of muscle. I would like to test out and see if doing an anabolic cycle is right for me.

    I'm 21 years old
    I weigh 170 pounds,
    I'm 5ft 9"
    And around 12% body fat
    I was wondering should i use finaflex 1 andro or alpha
    My guess is andro since im new but other than that i have no idea how much i should take
    im thinking
    4 week cycle:
    4 capsules of 1-andro a day (2 in morning, 2 at night) for 4 weeks
    2 capsules of PCT revolution black (1 in the morning, 1 at night ) for 4 weeks
    Is there anything else i should be taking with this?

    4 Week PCT:
    4 capsules of PCT revolution black (2 in the morning, 2 at night) for 4 weeks
    I'm not sure if i need anything else like pure test? or something

    any help would be greatly appreciated as id love some extra gains even if their minor, i workout about 4-5 times a week

    YOUR POST:

    So i'm a first timer and honestly have no idea what i should do exactly, my goal right now is to cut while gaining a small amount of muscle.

    I'm 21 years old
    I weigh 170 pounds,
    I'm 5ft 9"
    And around 10% body fat

    4 week cycle:
    2 capsules of 1-andro a day (1 in morning, 1 at night) for 4 weeks
    2 capsules of epi-v a day (1 in morning, 1 at night) for 4 weeks
    2 capsules of PCT revolution black (1 in the morning, 1 at night ) for 4 weeks
    Is there anything else i should be taking with this?

    4 Week PCT:
    4 capsules of PCT revolution black (2 in the morning, 2 at night) for 4 weeks
    I'm not sure if i need anything else like pure test? or something

    any help would be greatly appreciated! thanks
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