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    So for a 6 week cycle at 3-4 caps a day, do you run 2 bottles of andro and 1 of epi-v or another combo?


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    Is there any chance this product shuts down or affect HPTA?...or lower sex drive??

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    Quote Originally Posted by epf85 View Post
    Is there any chance this product shuts down or affect HPTA?...or lower sex drive??
    Good question, I actually had to look HPTA up (hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis).

    The hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis (also HPG axis) is referring to the effects of the hypothalamus, pituitary gland, and gonads as if these individual endocrine glands were a single entity as a whole. Because these glands often behave in cooperation, physiologists and endocrinologists find it convenient and descriptive to speak of them as a single system. The hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis is a critical part in the development and regulation of a number of the body's systems, such as the reproductive, and immune systems. Fluctuations in the hormones cause changes in the hormones produced by each gland and have various widespread and local effects on the body. This axis controls development, reproduction, and aging in animals. The hypothalamus produces gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH). The anterior portion of the pituitary gland produces luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), and the gonads produce estrogen and testosterone (word for word from Wikipedia).

    OK, 1-ANDRO is a prohormone, therefore, yes it will lower the body's production of its own natural test levels because the regulatory systems of the body recognize that it is getting it from somewhere else, therefore slows or ceases its own natural productions. So yes, it can have an affect on your sex drive. BUT... this is why I always suggest to people to take both the PURE TEST and PCT REVOLUTION Black both while and for four weeks after a cycle of any prohormone. The PURE TEST & PCT REVOLUTION Black with block estrogen, protect vital organs, & raise the natural testosterone in the body, in other words, counteracting any of the possible negative reactions to taking any prohormone, not just ours!
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    Thank you so much for answering ScottyDoc, so if PURE TEST & PCT BLACK are taken along and after 1-Andro for 4 weeks...no need to worry to lose my sex drive forever?..don't wanna need to by Cialis for the rest of my life LOL... cuz I've read a thread about a guy who just posted it today..stating he had low/no libido and had problems maintaining erection after 1 bottle and a half of Andro-1 he said he took the PCT after..but did not mentionned he did it during and did not mentionned he was taking PURE TEST.. I referred his question to you.. he looked worried..

    Thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by epf85 View Post
    Thank you so much for answering ScottyDoc, so if PURE TEST & PCT BLACK are taken along and after 1-Andro for 4 weeks...no need to worry to lose my sex drive forever?..don't wanna need to by Cialis for the rest of my life LOL... cuz I've read a thread about a guy who just posted it today..stating he had low/no libido and had problems maintaining erection after 1 bottle and a half of Andro-1 he said he took the PCT after..but did not mentionned he did it during and did not mentionned he was taking PURE TEST.. I referred his question to you.. he looked worried..

    Thanks again!
    OK, this is one of those Taboo areas in the sense of... There are no guarantees with any drug, which don't be fooled, although legal and OTC (over the counter) prohormones are drugs. Meaning that different people react to different drugs in different ways, there is no way to ever give a 100% guarantee on anything even something as seemingly safe as aspirin. All I can really do is educate people on what is in our products, what possible side effects can happen and how to properly prevent/reverse them. With all that being said, with regards to the general male population, there should be no reason to fear possible side effects if you take the cautionary measured mentioned in my last post. In short, although possible, highly, highly unlikely!

    Also, so you don't get the wrong idea when I refer to prohormones as drugs, vitamins, although naturally occurring, are drugs themselves.

    "A drug, broadly speaking, is any substance that, when absorbed into the body of a living organism, alters normal bodily function. There is no single, precise definition, as there are different meanings. In pharmacology, a drug is "a chemical substance used in the treatment, cure, prevention, or diagnosis of disease or used to otherwise enhance physical or mental well-being. Drugs are usually distinguished from endogenous biochemicals by being introduced from outside the organism" (quoted from Wikipedia).
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    I am new to this forum although i have lurked here for months now, i have read every post on this site about these products yet i have some questions on dosing. a quick background on me i am 26 years old, 5' 7", 158lbs (just finished a cut). fitness is my hobby and i have been lifting heavy for around 4 years with a strong endurance background such as tri's and road races. i am a hard gainer but that is mostly due to the fact that i eat a very clean average of 3500 cals a day.

    This will be my 3rd cycle i have done 550xd and a primordial performace cycle both with proper PCT. had the best gains with 550 reaching 165 lbs at around 6% before i went into triathalon season and lost some through endurance training. I am at roughly 6%bf now and looking to put on lean muscle, i am just not the type of person that can eat 5000 dirty cals and see good muscle gains.

    i just got 2bottles of 1 andro, 1 bottle of epi-v, and 2 rev blacks with free tests. i was wondering what would be the best dosage of this stack and am hoping to have roughly a 6 week cycle. (i also have a serm on hand just in case)but i dont plan on needing it. what ever suggestions anybody has are welcome even if it is just to run the 1-andro for 4 weeks and save the epi-v.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dryates View Post
    I am new to this forum although i have lurked here for months now, i have read every post on this site about these products yet i have some questions on dosing. a quick background on me i am 26 years old, 5' 7", 158lbs (just finished a cut). fitness is my hobby and i have been lifting heavy for around 4 years with a strong endurance background such as tri's and road races. i am a hard gainer but that is mostly due to the fact that i eat a very clean average of 3500 cals a day.

    This will be my 3rd cycle i have done 550xd and a primordial performace cycle both with proper PCT. had the best gains with 550 reaching 165 lbs at around 6% before i went into triathalon season and lost some through endurance training. I am at roughly 6%bf now and looking to put on lean muscle, i am just not the type of person that can eat 5000 dirty cals and see good muscle gains.

    i just got 2bottles of 1 andro, 1 bottle of epi-v, and 2 rev blacks with free tests. i was wondering what would be the best dosage of this stack and am hoping to have roughly a 6 week cycle. (i also have a serm on hand just in case)but i dont plan on needing it. what ever suggestions anybody has are welcome even if it is just to run the 1-andro for 4 weeks and save the epi-v.
    Awesome, you are giving me some good material to work with, I like it! OK, I would take the PCT REVOLUTION Black both during and after your cycle to ensure you will not need the SERM, always smart to have that on hand though, good thinking! I would take 1 cap PCT REVOLUTION Black 2 x's a day (morning & night) during your cycle and then 2 caps 2 x's a day (morning & night) for the 4 weeks post cycle. I would take 2 caps 1-ANDRO 2 x's a day (morning & night) for 30 days, then switch over to 2 caps of EPI-V 2 x's a day (morning & night) for an additional 30 days (requires you to purchase 1 more EPI-V). And that my friend is a Kick-A$$ Cycle and hard-gainer or not, you will be very pleased with your results! Also, to enhance the effects of our products, and to keep your natural testosterone levels as absolutely hight as possible (always a good thing) I suggest taking 2 caps of PURE TEST 3 x's a day (Morning, Noon, & Night) both during your cycle and for 4 weeks post cycle!
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    First off thanks for the quick reply and the great ideas. Correct me if i am wrong but if i do a 6 week cycle at your recommended dosage of 2 caps x2a day i would run out almost exactly at 6 weeks.(that is without purchasing another epi-v) the only problem is i would only have roughly half a bottle of pctblack left and be out of the pure test. what would you recommend me doing for a PCT in this case? another bottle of pct black and test? thanks again for your input i feel like i am almost dialed into how i want to attack this.

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    Sorry scotty doc but my internet blocked your message, i am deployed and random stuff get blocked through our internet provider here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dryates View Post
    First off thanks for the quick reply and the great ideas. Correct me if i am wrong but if i do a 6 week cycle at your recommended dosage of 2 caps x2a day i would run out almost exactly at 6 weeks.(that is without purchasing another epi-v) the only problem is i would only have roughly half a bottle of pctblack left and be out of the pure test. what would you recommend me doing for a PCT in this case? another bottle of pct black and test? thanks again for your input i feel like i am almost dialed into how i want to attack this.
    I understand what you are saying, what I am saying is since 1-ANDRO & EPI-V are totally different products with a different chemical compound that effect the body in a different way, so taking 4 wks (30 days) of each, so a total of 8 wks would be most beneficial to help you (hard gainer) add some good quality mass and remain shreddeded!!!

    As far as the PCT REV. Black & PURE TEST I would just make sure you have enough on hand to make it through your cycle & for 4 weeks after your cycle at my recommended dosage as to not need the SERM you have on hand just in case!
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    thanks for the advice, i cant wait to start will do the final planing on when i am going to start tomm. then its killin time.

    One last question, If i start soon i will be on cycle when i return from this deployment my concern will then be libido as my wife knows how much i have missed her and will notice if i am not game. should i expect to need added support at that time and if so what do you recomend? i am kinda assuming the pure test and pct black will keep it going tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dryates View Post
    thanks for the advice, i cant wait to start will do the final planing on when i am going to start tomm. then its killin time.

    One last question, If i start soon i will be on cycle when i return from this deployment my concern will then be libido as my wife knows how much i have missed her and will notice if i am not game. should i expect to need added support at that time and if so what do you recomend? i am kinda assuming the pure test and pct black will keep it going tho.
    It should keep you going, but, if it isn't, then just hit the SERM you said you had on hand & order some Cialis online, but as I said, it really should not be an issue!
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    i have decided to start in a few days. Now just for discussion sake i have herd of people dosing 1 andro up to 6 caps a day and reporting good things. I am not going to attempt this by any means and am sure 4 will be more the enough but what added benefits could these guys be seeing that would not be achieved by 4 caps? Given this is a rather mild on the body compared to some PH's would that be over taxing the body?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dryates View Post
    i have decided to start in a few days. Now just for discussion sake i have herd of people dosing 1 andro up to 6 caps a day and reporting good things. I am not going to attempt this by any means and am sure 4 will be more the enough but what added benefits could these guys be seeing that would not be achieved by 4 caps? Given this is a rather mild on the body compared to some PH's would that be over taxing the body?
    I mean it would have added benefit and no I don't think taking 6 caps a day would be all that crazy, now that would be the absolute limit as far as I am concerned and I would definitely never take that much unless I was taking both PCT REV. Black & PURE TEST both with and after and I would most certainly have a SERM handy and some Cialis, because at that dose it would more than likely shut the old "sex-drive" down and my Wifey ain't having that, LOL! Also, I would really never recommend that high a dose to anyone because someone who is very familiar with PH's know exactly what the make-up of 1-ANDRO is inside and out and take 6 caps in order to get a specific amount of a certain type of PH compound, meaning he already knows what he is doing, benefits vs. risks, etc. and there would be no need to advise him.

    Me personally, as I have said in almost every post about PH's at least once somewhere in a conversation is that I always air to the side of caution. Also, I am 36yrs old and in pretty good shape, not looking to really get any bigger, sure I want my legs bigger, and certain body parts to be more proportional, etc. etc still molding the clay by all means, but shear size and mass is not my goal, so another reason why I really don't want to push the limits and see how much I can take and get away with and how HUGE I can possibly get, etc.

    So if you want my advise, probably do, you did ask, LOL... I would just take 4 caps of 1-ANDRO a day (2 in morning & 2 in evening) combine that with 6 caps of PURE TEST (2 in morning, 2 around Noon, & 2 in evening), & finally 4 caps of PCT REVOLUTION Black (2 in morning & 2 in evening) all during the 1-ANDRO cycle and for 4 weeks after. Keep the SERM handy & maybe a few Cialis here and there in case your libido starts to diminish towards the end of the cycle, because you don't want to end your cycle early if you don't have to and the sex-drive always comes back quickly if you are taking the PURE TEST & the PCT REV. Black, not to mention that if it tanked enough you would take the SERM with all that and there is no way it wouldn't come back with 7 days or less then, so no worries in the world there my friend! As far as gains and stuff, your gains will be enhanced by the fact that you will be taking the PCT to block estrogen and raise natural testosterone levels & taking PURE TEST to raise them even higher, also besides enhancing your gains, you are more likely to retain those hard earned gains by taking both the PURE TEST & the PCT for four weeks following your cycle as well, so it is a win...win...win as far as the perfect cycle goes!
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    Hi ScottyDoc!

    So after reading the threads above...As a beginner I'll be doing 2 caps of 1-A ( 1 morning, 1 evening) while running PCT BLACK ( 4 pills a day) and PURE TEST ( 6 pills a day)..do I need to have a SERM close?.can I expect a little bit of gains even with only 2 caps of 1-A a day? By the way...people wondering if 1-Andro legal in Canada?...well I got my order from NP..and it got inspected by customs and everything got through..just had to pay customs fees..I also had in my order 2 PCT black and PURE TEST.and N.O ignite..

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    Quote Originally Posted by epf85 View Post
    Hi ScottyDoc!

    So after reading the threads above...As a beginner I'll be doing 2 caps of 1-A ( 1 morning, 1 evening) while running PCT BLACK ( 4 pills a day) and PURE TEST ( 6 pills a day)..do I need to have a SERM close?.can I expect a little bit of gains even with only 2 caps of 1-A a day? By the way...people wondering if 1-Andro legal in Canada?...well I got my order from NP..and it got inspected by customs and everything got through..just had to pay customs fees..I also had in my order 2 PCT black and PURE TEST.and N.O ignite..
    Yes, you should definitely expect to see some gains, as far as having a SERM handy, I mean that is up to you, I highly...highly doubt you will need it with the dose & precautions you are taking, but everyone is different and ya never know, so airing to the side of caution, it won't hurt to have one handy and you not need it, but would suck if you didn't have one handy and did need it... so airing to the side of caution, why not!
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    Scotty doc, i have started my cycle as of this morning and am stoked to see how this goes. I am taking 4 caps of 1-andro a day 2pct's and 6 Test. I was wondering cause i have the ability to take them anytime in the day if it would benefit me to time them out all day like you have advised on other products or if 2 2x a day would be the same. i wake up at 4am every morning and workout at 2pm or 4pm(just depends on the workload of my day). I am normally in bed at 8pm. Any recommendations i am willing to try.

    thanks again for all your help

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    Thanks for the reply ScottyDoc, Dryates let us know (if you don't mind) how your cycle goes..and if you experience any sides..I'd appreciate it!..Thanks!

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    No problem i will deff keep everybody here updated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dryates View Post
    Scotty doc, i have started my cycle as of this morning and am stoked to see how this goes. I am taking 4 caps of 1-andro a day 2pct's and 6 Test. I was wondering cause i have the ability to take them anytime in the day if it would benefit me to time them out all day like you have advised on other products or if 2 2x a day would be the same. i wake up at 4am every morning and workout at 2pm or 4pm(just depends on the workload of my day). I am normally in bed at 8pm. Any recommendations i am willing to try.

    thanks again for all your help
    Yes, I would space it out taking 2 caps in the morning and 2 caps in the evening, there are absolutely no stims in 1-ANDRO or the PURE TEST, so I see no harm in it what-so-ever!
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    i was wondering if there would be any benefit in at 4am then another around 7 am. then the second 2 at 4pm and 7pm. If there wouldnt be any diff i will stay with 2x2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dryates View Post
    i was wondering if there would be any benefit in at 4am then another around 7 am. then the second 2 at 4pm and 7pm. If there wouldnt be any diff i will stay with 2x2.
    Oh, I see what you are saying, you are talking about taking all 4 caps spaced out separately, I can only assume that, that would be the most ideal perfect world way to take it, similar to eating 5-6 small meals a day instead of the stereotypical 3 large meals a day! Just like the meals, it keeps a low, but constant dose in your system, definitely guarantees less possible waste, just like eating the small meals per day, more gets used as fuel and less gets stored or excreted!

    So in short, YES, that would definitely be the most IDEAL way to take this product!!!
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    Thanks scotty doc, I am gunna do that and take each dose 3-4 hours apart.

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    Just a quick update on the start of 1 Andro, so far i am getting the familiar feelings i had while on 550 with the joints and pumps starting to work really hard. intensity in the gym is slowly going up. no real diff in lifts although they are up slightly. and I am still looking about the same. So all in all not a bad start as far as i am concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dryates View Post
    Just a quick update on the start of 1 Andro, so far i am getting the familiar feelings i had while on 550 with the joints and pumps starting to work really hard. intensity in the gym is slowly going up. no real diff in lifts although they are up slightly. and I am still looking about the same. So all in all not a bad start as far as i am concerned.
    How long have you been on our product thus far? Personally, it usually takes about 14+ days for me to really know/feel that I am on a product of this nature! But once you start feeling it, you realize quickly that it really is working!
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    Today is day 8, i can tell it is building in my system for the past 3 days or so but at least with 550 this was just the beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dryates View Post
    Today is day 8, i can tell it is building in my system for the past 3 days or so but at least with 550 this was just the beginning.
    OK, so according to your last post, today must be day 22 for you, still going strong? Updates, updates!!!
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    everything is coming along nicely, not the same as 550 but still very good pumps and strength is up a bit more. I was doing 100's for chest press 2-3 times with good form and am now cranking out 6 or so. Plus weight is up from around 156-7 to 164. A few weak sides i have noticed was back pumps are starting to kick in but they arent even bad enough to mess with tauren yet. Plus i have gotten 3 small pimples which is odd cause i dont really get any acne anymore but they were on my shoulders and are already gone.

    So far sex drive is actually up which is very nice as i will be heading home in 12 days!!! So now i really cant wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dryates View Post
    everything is coming along nicely, not the same as 550 but still very good pumps and strength is up a bit more. I was doing 100's for chest press 2-3 times with good form and am now cranking out 6 or so. Plus weight is up from around 156-7 to 164. A few weak sides i have noticed was back pumps are starting to kick in but they arent even bad enough to mess with tauren yet. Plus i have gotten 3 small pimples which is odd cause i dont really get any acne anymore but they were on my shoulders and are already gone.

    So far sex drive is actually up which is very nice as i will be heading home in 12 days!!! So now i really cant wait.
    That is awesome bro, glad to see you are getting good results and like the product! Yeah, I agree, unfortunately due to all the bans on different ingredients etc. It really is impossible to find a product that works as well as the 550, 1-ANDRO is close, but nothing legal, unless a new break-through comes about, is going to be as good as the 550 from any of the prohormone manufacturers, not just us!
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    Hey Scottydoc,
    i had another quick question about this cycle. I am almost done with the Andro and seen as how Epi-v is another compound i was wondering if i will go through the first 2 weeks or so without feeling much, as is typical with PH's.Or if it will play off of the Andro and kick in right away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dryates View Post
    Hey Scottydoc,
    i had another quick question about this cycle. I am almost done with the Andro and seen as how Epi-v is another compound i was wondering if i will go through the first 2 weeks or so without feeling much, as is typical with PH's.Or if it will play off of the Andro and kick in right away.
    Not sure if you read my entire log or followed it, but when I did my pre-contest 12 week prep, I took 6 wks of 1-ANDRO and straight into 6wks of EPI-V. I personally didn't see any drop or changes until about 7-10 days of the EPI-V, but the changes were accelerated fat-loss and my lean muscle gains remained constant, even at the end during those last two weeks, when I was carb cycling and the LBS were just flying off, I still maintained 1LB of lean muscle gain while dropping 36Lbs of fat during the entire 12 weeks and I was shreddeded, 5.3% BF!!!

    So my answer is go for it, do a cycle of EPI-V right now, jump right in after your done with your 1-ANDRO cycle, you won't lose muscle at all, probably won't gain any, but strength will remain the same if not increase, I saw an increase with it until those last two crazy weeks of course, but it will help you shred down for sure, perfect pre-contest or pre-summer prohormone!!!
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    Hi Scotty,

    Thanks for taking the time to answer all of our questions! Of course, I have a few of my own.
    I am thinking of stacking 1-ANDRO and EPI-V over 40 days taking 3 capsules of each per day. I plan on taking EPI-V in the morning and 1-ANDRO in the late afternoon. This is based on your earlier recommendation and warning about how EPI-V may effect my sleeping habits.
    I also plan on taking Syntha-6 during this time period as well.
    Finally, I would also like to take 1 or 2 scoops of Jack3d to give me a little more focus and motivation during my workout.
    What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexicanJake View Post
    Hi Scotty,

    Thanks for taking the time to answer all of our questions! Of course, I have a few of my own.
    I am thinking of stacking 1-ANDRO and EPI-V over 40 days taking 3 capsules of each per day. I plan on taking EPI-V in the morning and 1-ANDRO in the late afternoon. This is based on your earlier recommendation and warning about how EPI-V may effect my sleeping habits.
    I also plan on taking Syntha-6 during this time period as well.
    Finally, I would also like to take 1 or 2 scoops of Jack3d to give me a little more focus and motivation during my workout.
    What do you think?
    I say go for it, sounds like a plan to me, I don't see anything wrong with your thinking at all! I would make sure I was taking some PCT REVOLUTION Black along with that dose of ProHormones (better safe than sorry). Also, being biased to our products I would recommend FINAFLEX's N.O. IGNITE over JackD, but to each his own Brotha! Would love to see a good log or at least before and after picts with some results, which I would expect to be FANTASTIC!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    I would make sure I was taking some PCT REVOLUTION Black along with that dose of ProHormones (better safe than sorry).
    I take it that the PCT REVOLUTION should be taken post cycle/stack? Would there be any benefit to start taking it (let's say) a week before the cycle ends?
    Again, thanks for your assistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexicanJake View Post
    I take it that the PCT REVOLUTION should be taken post cycle/stack? Would there be any benefit to start taking it (let's say) a week before the cycle ends?
    Again, thanks for your assistance.
    I recommend it should be taken both with, then at a higher dose after your cycle. If your plan is to only use it as your PCT (which is perfectly fine and what it was specifically designed for) then yes, starting a few days to a week before the end of your cycle is recommended!
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    Hey Scotty

    I started taking this, but started experiencing burning when I urinate, so I got nervous and stopped.
    Is it because I'm not drinking enough water?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsar View Post
    Hey Scotty

    I started taking this, but started experiencing burning when I urinate, so I got nervous and stopped.
    Is it because I'm not drinking enough water?
    John,

    I don't really know what to tell you. I have never heard of that side effect from any prohormone, much less from ours! Are you currently on any other supplements, or any prescription medications? How much water are you drinking daily? It is always highly recommended to increase your water intake while taking a prohormone!
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    That seems to be the problem
    Thanks !

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    John,

    I don't really know what to tell you. I have never heard of that side effect from any prohormone, much less from ours! Are you currently on any other supplements, or any prescription medications? How much water are you drinking daily? It is always highly recommended to increase your water intake while taking a prohormone!
    Actually, 1-test, 1-AD, and 1-DHEA (your product) all irritate mucous membranes and cause a burning sensation in your urethra when you pee (if you don't dilute the expelled metabolites with sufficient water). That is actually the easiest way to spot 1-test or one of its precursors. Just put the powder under your tongue and it should burn.

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